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Sahar

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Is there a visual difference as far as fire from a 55% table to a 56.5%or 57%?
 

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Is there a visual difference as far as fire from a 55% table to a 56.5%or 57%?
No, GIA considers anything from 53-58 within 'excellent', if two stones both have 3EX and one has 55% table and one has 57%, they will return virtually identical light that 99.999% of humans won't be able to differentiate.

That said, diamond cutters will be able to tell the difference, but unless you are a diamond cutter, not an issues. :)
 

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Right on @flyingpig
Many stones with tables larger than 60% are graded EX cut grade.
Anyone who says people can’t see the difference between 55 and 57% tables hasn’t spent a lot of time here. We have some eagle eyed members:)
@Sahar - there’s many other aspects that combine with table % to allow or encourage fire events.
Just a simple one is that larger stones with larger facets will be able to exhibit fire that a smaller stone with identical %’s won’t.
 

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This forum is amazing!
Right on @flyingpig
Many stones with tables larger than 60% are graded EX cut grade.
Anyone who says people can’t see the difference between 55 and 57% tables hasn’t spent a lot of time here. We have some eagle eyed members:)
@Sahar - there’s many other aspects that combine with table % to allow or encourage fire events.
Just a simple one is that larger stones with larger facets will be able to exhibit fire that a smaller stone with identical %’s won’t.
I believe tables of 52 to 62 can achieve an excellent cut grade, but I'm trusting my memory. Maybe I should dust off the old manuals.
 

Sahar

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This forum is amazing!
Right on @flyingpig
Many stones with tables larger than 60% are graded EX cut grade.
Anyone who says people can’t see the difference between 55 and 57% tables hasn’t spent a lot of time here. We have some eagle eyed members:)
@Sahar - there’s many other aspects that combine with table % to allow or encourage fire events.
Just a simple one is that larger stones with larger facets will be able to exhibit fire that a smaller stone with identical %’s won’t.
Thank you! The porportion are great as it's an AVA and it's 1.36carat the only concern I have is table use is 56.4%. I was hoping for 55% just because I keep reading that there is more fire? 98401EAC-E03E-4CE3-B672-5C6783023E9F.jpeg
 

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mwilliamanderson

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In answer to your question as it relates to fire. Read John Pollard‘s explanation in particular.

 

Sahar

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My CBI with 56.7% table has so much fire, it makes anyone within a hundred years have to put on sunglasses...

Outdoors:

Indoors:
That's beautiful what carat is that I wonder if mine is 1.36 (7.11mm-7.13mm)and smaller if if makes a difference
 

Sahar

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In answer to your question as it relates to fire. Read John Pollard‘s explanation in particular.

Thanks going to read now. I feel like in down a rabbit hilecsearchingvfr perfection I know it's not realistic lol
 

Sahar

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My CBI with 56.7% table has so much fire, it makes anyone within a hundred years have to put on sunglasses...

Outdoors:

Indoors:
That's beautiful what carat is that I wonder if mine is 1.36 (7.11mm-7.13mmand smaller if if makes a diff
 

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Thanks going to read now. I feel like in down a rabbit hilecsearchingvfr perfection I know it's not realistic lol
Yes, you‘re going to make yourself crazy. Don’t worry, many of us have done it lol. If creating fire in a diamond were as simple as making the table facet small the top cutters would be doing it to all diamonds. But there are many other variables involved. The top diamond companies are crafting diamonds that maximize brilliance AND fire. They came up with a great recipe for doing so which means you don’t have to worry. You’ve done the best you can by buying from one of them.
 

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This was the smallest table that I ever sported. JMO, I think smaller table performs better in low lighted condition...i.e inside a low lighted restaurant.

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My current stone is more balanced b/t low lighting and bright lighting conditions, JMO
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Sahar

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I have owned a James Allen, True Hearts, and a CBI earring lol. I have another CBI on it’s way.
Thats awesome! I haven’t heard on CBI until i joined this group. Ill do some research on it I hear great things. Hope WhiteFlash compares to the quality. I just love the service and upgrade of Whiteflash. Hope it performs the same!
 

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There are many here who have great things to say about both companies and I know you’ll be pleased which ever way you go.

Just so you know, HPD, who sells CBI diamonds has the same upgrade program and they are the only company I know of who offer an 80 percent buy back program.

Both of these companies produce diamonds of such high quality that they are willing to own them more than once. They also both have great brand loyalty.
 

Sahar

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There are many here who have great things to say about both companies and I know you’ll be pleased which ever way you go.

Just so you know, HPD, who sells CBI diamonds has the same upgrade program and they are the only company I know of who offer an 80 percent buy back program.

Both of these companies produce diamonds of such high quality that they are willing to own them more than once. They also both have great brand loyalty.
That’s awesome! looks like i need to own both hahah! One day!

Ive always wanted to start with 1.5 (7.3Mm,7.4mm) carat but pricing is too high for us this 1.36 is 7.11mm 7.13mm 4.37 is there a big size difference? wondering if i should hold off for something in the 1.4ish range
 

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That’s awesome! looks like i need to own both hahah! One day!

Ive always wanted to start with 1.5 (7.3Mm,7.4mm) carat but pricing is too high for us this 1.36 is 7.11mm 7.13mm 4.37 is there a big size difference? wondering if i should hold off for something in the 1.4ish range
What about this then? https://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-4279933.htm It will still be eligible for the upgrade program when you’re ready. It’s not a D but heck it’s a G VS1 and the proportions are great!

AND it has the small table you’re wanting!
 

Sahar

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@mwilliamanderson It’s beautiful i want an F though plus needs under 15K. Ive noticed price drops with diamonds that Certified June till now. So hoping for a unicorn lol
 
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@Dancing Fire @mwilliamanderson have either of you owned ACA? If so what are your thoughts compared to CBI?
both Co. deals in well cut H&A stones. This is ACA ring which I purchased from a fellow PSer. I use BGD for my wife's 3 stone pendant. My daughter's 2.05ct Ering is from BGD.

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Sahar

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both Co. deals in well cut H&A stones. This is ACA ring which I purchased from a fellow PSer. I use BGD for my wife's 3 stone pendant. My daughter's 2.05ct Ering is from BGD.

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@Dancing Fire would you personally think with porportions the performance of this diamond not be your first choice? As far as fire? 6A152677-133C-423A-A67A-81E29AFAA099.jpeg
 

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@Dancing Fire would you personally think with porportions the performance of this diamond not be your first choice? As far as fire? 6A152677-133C-423A-A67A-81E29AFAA099.jpeg
Your stone is beautiful nothing to worry about. It is ACA, right?
 
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