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Is 63.2% depth (53% table) too deep? 1.6 HCA

Gorgeous ring @blushbliss ! The stone looks beautiful and very white facing! Can’t wait to see handshots!!
 
It's stunning!!! :love::appl:cant wait to see some hand shots!!! Here's hoping it comes quickly!!!
 
Stunning ring. Like the way the prongs have turned out.
 
Thanks ladies! I will post pictures as soon as it arrives... hopefully within the next couple of days.
 
Pics look lovely BB...cant wait to hear what you think!
 
Well it's here and I am super disappointed :(. Not with the colour or cut... I am thrilled with these aspects, but with the clarity. The GIA report showed the feather from the base on the mapping and did not mark that it could also be seen from the top. The mapping of the top of the diamond is shown as being free from visible inclusions. I am so annoyed as I never would have considered this diamond otherwise. I am also disappointed that DK wouldn't have noted how visible the inclusion is with the way the diamond is set. The initial disappointment and anger has settled though and I think if I change the orientation of the arrows a prong should be able to cover the inclusion... ugh what a let down. I am in Canada and don't enjoy paying 70 dollars everytime I ship a piece to DK so I will now have to find a competent jeweller to rotate the diamond and not mess up the prongs.IMG_6445.JPG
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Here is another photo. It is a really lovely diamond otherwise. I am hopeful a rotation will be the key to hide that bothersome inclusion. Should I be concerned that the feather is close to the girdle? I am assuming it must be located near the base more so than the top considering they chose to show it only from the base.
 
Looks like a slight rotation to the right so that the arrow that is currently to the left of the bottom most prong is meeting that prong should allow for the bottom right prong to cover the feather. Thankfully it looks to be in the exact right location to allow for the arrows to line up cleanly and the feather to be hidden. Any thoughts/concern on this?
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My opinion? I didn't like the SI1 clarity that you chose. Even if you rotate the diamond, I think that the feather will be visible anyway, because it reflects in the surrounding facets. I would return this diamond.
 
EvaEvans said:
My opinion? I didn't like the SI1 clarity that you chose. Even if you rotate the diamond, I think that the feather will be visible anyway, because it reflects in the surrounding facets. I would return this diamond.
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Thanks for your response, Eva.

I have not seen any reflection of this feather in other facets. Were you able to see this in the 360? If so, can you point it out to me? I did not even see the inclusion to begin with.
 
blushbliss said:
have not seen any reflection of this feather in other facets.
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You see this feather close to the girdle, but in fact, according the GIA inclusions plot, it is on the pavilion. So seeing it so close to the girdle means it's a reflection. It is also very possible, that technically the prong is exactly over it, but you see the feather reflection.
 
EvaEvans said:
You see this feather close to the girdle, but in fact, according the GIA inclusions plot, it is on the pavilion. So seeing it so close to the girdle means it's a reflection. It is also very possible, that technically the prong is exactly over it, but you see the feather reflection.
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Ahh, I see what you mean. I just took a look at the super zoom 360 on JA and I see the reflection in the arrow directly across from it now. I cannot believe I didn't see any of this before when watching the 360 over and over. When you previously stated that you did not like the SI1 clarity I assumed you just had a preference to avoid SIs.

In person, I have not really noticed the other reflection of the inclusion reflection near the girdle yet. I can see it ever so slightly if I focus in on it. Based on where the inclusion/reflection is located in the imaging of the diamond, I do not believe that the prong is currently covering it, but it is impossible to know.

I am not sure what to do yet, but if it is possible to cover the most noticeable reflection with a prong, I think I can ignore the other less noticeable reflection that I have picked out...
 
Can you still return it if you modify the ring?
 
Can you view it thru a loupe to determine how near the prong it is? It might be okay rotated if you're not seeing other reflections.

From your pictures (viewing on my phone) I don't really see it. But you obviously do see it, so determining whether rotation is possible before the return period expires ...

I love davids prongs. Just a p.s. Not all jewelers can do them nicely.
 
EvaEvans said:
Can you still return it if you modify the ring?
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Do you mean return the ring? I am not sure how that will work. DK is generally pretty good for reworks when needed. The return period is up as of the first. I won't have time before Christmas to have the diamond rotated, but I am going to get to a jewellers thereafter.
 
ringo865 said:
Can you view it thru a loupe to determine how near the prong it is? It might be okay rotated if you're not seeing other reflections.

From your pictures (viewing on my phone) I don't really see it. But you obviously do see it, so determining whether rotation is possible before the return period expires ...

I love davids prongs. Just a p.s. Not all jewelers can do them nicely.
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I do not have a loupe, I wish I did at this moment. I am going to try to get to a jeweller after Christmas so I can hopefully take a look at it then.

When you say you can't really see it, are you referring to the feather I initially spoke of or the other reflections? The major reflection near the girdle is very apparent to me :(
 
I was watching the JA video and I am sure, that the real location of the inclusion is not where you see it from the top of the diamond (you see it close to the girdle and that's why you think this could be covered by the prong). The inclusion is not so close to the girdle, its somewhere in the middle between the center of the diamond and the girdle, in my opinion. Look at the video while rotating and in one moment you will see this feather from the table under the table.
Your diamond has only one big visible inclusion and this is this feather, that you can see from different angles. Could you try to see it from behind, from the bottom? From the bottom of the diamond you will see its real location as on the GIA plot.
 
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I just have the feeling that even if you move the prong, you will still see the feather.
 
EvaEvans said:
I was watching the JA video and I am sure, that the real location of the inclusion is not where you see it from the top of the diamond (you see it close to the girdle and that's why you think this could be cover by the prong). The inclusion is more close to the table, in my opinion. Look at the video while rotating and in one moment you will see this feather from the table under the table.
Your diamond has only one big visible inclusion and this is this feather, that you can see from different angles. Could you try to see it from behind, from the bottom? From the bottom of the diamond you will see its real location as on the GIA plot.
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I just noticed that before you said that as well. With this discovery, does this mean that a prong could not cover the reflection we are seeing from the top of the diamond. The "actual" inclusion that you can see closer to the table in the video is very unnoticeable compared to this reflection seen near the girdle. I am not all together familiar with how reflections in facets work, but I am assuming that rotating the diamond will still cover this reflection?... unless moving the prongs will create a whole different reflection scenario? Would you mind explaining this to me?
 
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I am a little surprised that there is no mark on the crown plot ... I think this means only that the thing is closer to the bottom than the top, regardless of visibility [a GG question @cflutist ]

Wish' the video that 'sold' the stone were still around !

Of course, not much shows on my side of the screen, just a beautiful RBC .-(
 
valeria101 said:
I am a little surprised that there is no mark on the crown plot ... I think this means only that the thing is closer to the bottom than the top, regardless of visibility
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This is the rule: If the inclusion is located in the crown, GIA draw it on the top view diamond chart. If the inclusion is situated in the pavilion area, than GIA draw it on the bottom view chart.
 
blushbliss said:
Can you clarify what you mean by this statement, Valeria?
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The seller's video from the original listing. I cannot open the link. Can you ?

I wonder whether the reflection was there at all, thinking that whether reflections show at all might depend on the position of the diamond. [& I should have thought of it]
 
Thank you for clarifying, Valeria.

@EvaEvans , I didn't realize until today, but the idealscope image clearly shows the inclusion/reflection near the girdle. Does this perhaps confirm that this is the original inclusion and not the reflection or not? What are your thoughts on whether rotating the diamond to have the most noticeable reflection covered... will this cause a whole new reflection situation or will the reflections remain the same regardless of where the prongs are placed?

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blushbliss said:
Eva, I didn't realize until today, but the idealscope image clearly shows the inclusion/reflection near the girdle.
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The idealscope only shows the light return when seeing diamond from the top straight. The real location of the inclusion is on the GIA plot here:
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If you notice, its somewhere in the middle between the diamond center and the girdle. But because the pavilion has different shape (cone shape), the pavilion angle interacting with the light gives you different impression where exactly the inclusion is.
 
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