IN SHOWER storage.

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Like a light reddish brown. But I haven't had more than 1/2" of roots in 20 years and hopefully never will. Red with gray is friggin a nightmare. I am terrified of gray.

Gray does suck! Maybe I'll shave my temples & attempt some kind of Tribal/Mad Max kinda thing.

lololol if you do I require pics. I mix the roots with a little brown just to get the roots the right red.

 

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I actually replaced kerastase with the Loreal pro vitamino color. I got better retention from the Loreal than the more expensive kerastase version. I alternate it with Bumble creme de coco.

But no "standard" shampoo and cond is enough to keep it intact. Color depositing products are vital!

Just to double-check, you used the Chroma Riche (introduced in early 2011) and not the Chroma Reflect? They have very similar looking bottles and are both marketed for color-treated hair, but they're very different on the red dye-retention issue.

(Yes, I too have spent too much money on hair products-- gotta love the red, but that color will make you WORK for it, doesn't it?)

Yep thats what I used. When the salon stopped stocking it regularly (they would just order it for me) I started just buying it on the Kerastase site because it was faster AND I got little minatures (of which I have TONS for travelling). But I ended up trying the Vitamino Color when I was in buying the Bumble at a different salon, and I ended up returning all but one bottle of the Kerastase. It for me anyway, held color better. I don't dye my ends, I use colored conditioner to color them (it stains them!) And this stuff doesn't rip it out like the Kerastase did after the next shampoo. I can skip days of color conditioner now.

They stopped making the little conditioner bottle they made that was awesome, and now it's just masques and leave ins. I do want to try the "Sensitive Balm" or whatever it's called. It sounds like a low-detergent cream with low lather. But there are days that I just "wash" with conditioner and that works just fine.

Totally get it now. In the end, I think we use different methods. Though my colorist only dyes the roots as well, the ends gain their color through a tinted gloss treatment @salon, and the new Kerastase doesn't strip the gloss out-- but if the process you use for end color is conditioner-deposit versus gloss-deposit, therein probably lies the explanation, eh?

So, what's your top option at this point for the shower storage issue?

 

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Banning him from showering at home! Lol

I'm too sick to fight with him right now so I'm going to deal with it again in a few days.