If it's eye clean and not milky/cloudy...

[KarenmO]

What are your thoughts on this 2.3 ct H SI2 stone if it's confirmed eye clean and not milky or cloudy? It scores a 1 on the HCA. Blue Nile has a 30-day return policy. Thanks!

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...DiamondDetails&action=newTab&catalogView=true

 

[Karl_K]

The knot on the crown makes it a no go for me.
They can come out leaving a nasty looking cavity on the crown making the stone less valuable.
That is my opinion and others may disagree.

 

[Dancing Fire]

I wouldn't buy a diamond with one of these 3 words on its lab report.
bruise, knot or cavity...that just me.

 

[gm89uk]

I'm a big advocate for a unicorn SI2 stone. This is not one of those stones.

Having not personally examined the diamond, this is speculative, but there's so little chance of that being eye clean. I worry their definition is a bit loose..

Also ditto, the knot is the real deal breaker.

 

[lydial]

If you are open to I color, how about something like these for a few more hundred?

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R221-015890973?utm_source=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc

https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD8104

 

[KarenmO]

Knot cool, man!

Thanks for the input. The vault manager said the diamond is eye clean and not milky or hazy in appearance. Consequently, will these inclusions affect the sparkle of the diamond? If this is the knot that is a deal breaker for many, can it be covered with a prong? Can you actually feel a knot on the surface of the diamond?

I’m also open to other BN stones under $18k.

 

[Ss52]

This one is a little smaller but vastly cleaner, H Vs2, and falls within the AGS Ideal and GIA EX according to diamondcalculator.com.

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...AMONDS&track=viewDiamondDetails&action=newTab


Ps, I just saw your $ limit.......


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[KarenmO]

The knot on the crown makes it a no go for me.
They can come out leaving a nasty looking cavity on the crown making the stone less valuable.
That is my opinion and others may disagree.

Hello Karl,

When you say “come out” do you mean the knot can rise to the surface of the diamond and actually cause a hole/cavity on the surface?

 

[lydial]

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...DiamondDetails&action=newTab&catalogView=true

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...DiamondDetails&action=newTab&catalogView=true

Very similar stones. Not much in PS parameters for 2 ct+ for 18-19 k, on BN.

A little over 19k:

https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-de...DiamondDetails&action=newTab&catalogView=true

https://bnsec.bluenile.com/bnsecure/certs/LD11975781/GIA?country=USA&language=en-us

But the enchanted stone was less $ and a little bigger.

https://enchanteddiamonds.com/diamonds/view/R221-015890973?utm_source=rarecarat&utm_medium=cpc

 

[Karl_K]

Hello Karl,

When you say “come out” do you mean the knot can rise to the surface of the diamond and actually cause a hole/cavity on the surface?

A knot is a another body usually another diamond crystal embedded in the diamond, that is at least partially exposed to the surface.
When it is fully enclosed its called a crystal.
Yes a knot can come out leaving a cavity.

 

[KarenmO]

A knot is a another body usually another diamond crystal embedded in the diamond, that is at least partially exposed to the surface.
When it is fully enclosed its called a crystal.
Yes a knot can come out leaving a cavity.

That sounds horrible. Do you think this particular knot given its location would raise a durability issue on the stone?

 

[the_mother_thing]

At that size, I would not trust any eyes but my own to confirm eye cleanliness, and I doubt I would take a chance on that diamond with so many other better/comparable diamonds available. Sorry!

 

[Karl_K]

That sounds horrible. Do you think this particular knot given its location would raise a durability issue on the stone?

Any knot on the crown can be a concern.

 

[KarenmO]

Any knot on the crown can be a concern.

Thank you

 

[KarenmO]

I have been reading about knots all day. I am still interested in the stone because it has been deemed eye clean, is in my price range, and is my color and size preference. It has a 30 day return policy and I would like to see it in person. If I were to proceed with the sale, from a durability standpoint, would it be advisable to have the knot covered by a prong if possible? Or would it be preferable not to cover the knot? I plan to get insurance for the stone. Thank you.

 

[gm89uk]

Even if it is eye clean (which I really highly doubt), it may not be in the future if the knot has its way.

 

[the_mother_thing]

I am all about finding a deal or bargain to stay in budget or even come in below budget, and I’m not the biggest clarity-phobe, but I agree with @gm89uk ... I doubt that diamond will be eye clean. I had it up on my iPad, and stepped about 8 feet away, and I could still make out the scattering of inclusions which I can only imagine would impact how well the diamond performs. And if that knot does come out, it will be a pit that will collect dirt/lotion/etc. and further impact performance. We use our hands a lot, and I’ve bonked my rings on a few occasions enough to have me immediately rush to my loupe and inspect them.

Your knot may/may never get knocked loose/out, but with soooooooo many other diamonds on the market just waiting to be bought, why take an unnecessary risk? Post your specs and budget, and let PSers work their magic to find you a diamond you can be confident in and will love.

 

[SimoneDi]

There is about zero chance that the stone is eye-clean with those nasty inclusions the stone also seems to have a grey hue, which I find very undesirable.

OP here is an amazing stone in your budget: https://loupetroop.com/listings/loo...t-j-color-vs2-clarity-gia-xxx-round-brilliant

Yes, it is lower in color, but much larger and a much, much more beautiful stone.

 

[gm89uk]

your diameter is 8.425mm

1) https://www.yadavjewelry.com/diamond/round-diamond-2.22-carat-g-si1-yd5776236 (medium fluor 8.28mm spread))
2) https://www.yadavjewelry.com/diamond/round-diamond-2.17-carat-g-si1-yd4934486 (strong fluor)

More options if you go to I. What are your requirements?

Both of these look much more promising. Particularly the first.

If the budget can stretch, this would be my choice:

https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/diamonddetail/HPD8104

 

[KarenmO]

It is really that bad, huh? I would like for the stone to be an heirloom so if the original stone is across the board repulsive, then it is probably priced low because nobody wants to touch it. My budget is around $18k and it has to be BN. I would like an H but an eye clean I is good enough for me. +2.2 carats would be great!

 

[gm89uk]

It is really that bad, huh? I would like for the stone to be an heirloom so if the original stone is across the board repulsive, then it is probably priced low because nobody wants to touch it. My budget is around $18k and it has to be BN. I would like an H but an eye clean I is good enough for me. +2.2 carats would be great!

Just curious as to why it has to be BN? Is it an upgrade?

 

[KarenmO]

Just curious as to why it has to be BN? Is it an upgrade?

Yes. Purchased original stone at a time when one could easily register one's gmail email addresses as one's first and last name.

 

[SimoneDi]

@KarenmO the stone you are looking at is definitely not a good choice, I am sorry to say. Can you please give us the specs of your current diamond?

 

[KarenmO]

It's okay. That's why I am seeking the opinion of experts. Thank you for helping.

I purchased this:

 

[SimoneDi]

@KarenmO thanks for sharing the stats of your current stone. It seems to be a well cut 60/60 style stone.

I think I found a pretty amazing option for you. If you like it please put it on hold ASAP.
https://www.bluenile.com/build-your...DiamondDetails&action=newTab&catalogView=true

The same stone is listed here for less and BN has a price match policy:
https://www.yadavjewelry.com/diamond/round-diamond-2.22-carat-g-si1-yd5776236

It is a gorgeous, white and very well cut stone.

 

[the_mother_thing]

@KarenmO It appears your current diamond is a 60/60 (table & depth). Do you like how it performs/looks/behaves?

 

[KarenmO]

@KarenmO It appears your current diamond is a 60/60 (table & depth). Do you like how it performs/looks/behaves?

In short, no. It looks a bit lifeless and dull in my eyes.

 

[lovedogs]

@KarenmO thanks for sharing the stats of your current stone. It seems to be a well cut 60/60 style stone.

I think I found a pretty amazing option for you. If you like it please put it on hold ASAP.
https://www.bluenile.com/build-your...DiamondDetails&action=newTab&catalogView=true

The same stone is listed here for less and BN has a price match policy:
https://www.yadavjewelry.com/diamond/round-diamond-2.22-carat-g-si1-yd5776236

It is a gorgeous, white and very well cut stone.

Amazing find!!!!! OP, please buy this one, it's awesome!

 

[KarenmO]

@KarenmO thanks for sharing the stats of your current stone. It seems to be a well cut 60/60 style stone.

I think I found a pretty amazing option for you. If you like it please put it on hold ASAP.
https://www.bluenile.com/build-your...DiamondDetails&action=newTab&catalogView=true

The same stone is listed here for less and BN has a price match policy:
https://www.yadavjewelry.com/diamond/round-diamond-2.22-carat-g-si1-yd5776236

It is a gorgeous, white and very well cut stone.

Thanks for this gorgeous find, Simone! I placed it on reserve. The depth is 62.7... doesn't PS recommend staying under 62.3?

 

[SimoneDi]

Thanks for this gorgeous find, Simone! I placed it on reserve. The depth is 62.7... doesn't PS recommend staying under 62.3?

Np! The depth is a little out of the “ideal” proportions, but the cut proportions are gorgeous and the ASET is beautiful, so there is nothing to worry about. I personally find the depth limits a bit harsh because many times we fail to notice gorgeous stones like this one