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nengland

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Hello,

I entered the search for an engagement ring maybe a month ago and to my surprise find myself obsessing/worrying over the diamond instead of the actual ring itself. (never thought it was so complicated until I gave it a second look)

Quick question about evaluating Ideal Scope images between stones within the same vendor. Below are two images of similarly priced diamonds. I think the first is brighter and has fewer shadows, but the second is a hearts and arrows. Am I interpreting it wrong?

Also, the first, which looks brighter to me, doesn''t seem to be as uniform in the shadows. Is that because it''s only a VERY GOOD in symmetry as opposed to an excellent/ideal like the hearts and arrows pictured? Does that impact it much under normal conditions?

Thanks in advance...

-Neil


 

diamondseeker2006

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Do not worry about comparing brightness...that has more to do with the photography. #2 looks great. I don''t like the looks of the first one.
 

Kaleigh

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#2 looks like a winner to me.
 

Garry H (Cut Nut)

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The first stone is not sitting straight and probably looks just as good as the second one which is a real winner.

These photo''s have been taken with the $25 plastic lens ideal-scope (as were GOG''s dumb comparison shots on his very complex website) - the vendor should lash out big time and buy the $50 version.

Both will be stunning stones
 

Seven

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Why is the 2nd one the winner? I thought the less white the better? Thanks.
 

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Date: 1/4/2007 10:48:38 PM
Author: Garry H (Cut Nut)

These photo''s have been taken with the $25 plastic lens ideal-scope (as were GOG''s dumb comparison shots on his very complex website) - the vendor should lash out big time and buy the $50 version.
hmmmm.......
 

strmrdr

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#2 would be my pick based on the IS.
Whats the crown and pavilion angles?
 

nengland

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Here are the dimensions on the hearts and arrows.

Depth 61.8%
Table 54.5%
Crown 33.9°
Pav 40.9°

Gdl med-sl t
Pol/Sym ID

The table has a dark inclusion though and that has me worried.

 

strmrdr

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numbers look good ... whats the clarity grade and what does the vendor say about it being eyeclean?
 

nengland

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I think I''m really sold on this hearts and arrows stone. Any thoughts on the clarity? I called James Allen, had it placed on hold and was reassured that it was eye clean.

Any non interested parties out there want to field a guess as to whether it will be eye clean?

(sorry if I sound too much like a newb)

Thanks, and I can''t say how much help lurking and reading these forums has been.

-Neil
 

JulieN

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Just check on their definition of eye-clean.

What is a non-interested party, exactly?
 

Ellen

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Date: 1/5/2007 2:05:36 PM
Author: nengland
I think I''m really sold on this hearts and arrows stone. Any thoughts on the clarity? I called James Allen, had it placed on hold and was reassured that it was eye clean.

Any non interested parties out there want to field a guess as to whether it will be eye clean?

(sorry if I sound too much like a newb)

Thanks, and I can''t say how much help lurking and reading these forums has been.

-Neil
What is James Allen''s definition of eye clean? Whatever that is, I would trust it to be what he says.

But is that what you want? or do you not want to see anything from any position?
 

nengland

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strmrdr: It''s an SI1.

JulieN: A "non-interested party" would be someone that doesn''t have a financial interest in the sale of the stone.

Ellen: Top down eye clean would probably be good enough for me. That''s why I was worried about the inclusion being on the table.
 

strmrdr

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If JA says its eyeclean from the top it will be for the average person but some people can see better than average.
From the pics all I can say that its very possible that it is eyeclean from the top.
They do have a return policy should you need it.
 
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