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I got an AVR! Help me with the tech stuff?!

rainydaze

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i am so excited - i have purchased this august vintage round which should arrive soon:
http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/7722/

i am nowhere near as adept at reading the IS and ASET images as so many of you - could you tell me how it looks? any concerns with the numbers or the med flouro (this is something else that drew me to this stone). TIA!!!
 
here are the numbers:

Width: 4.90mm
Length: 4.93mm
Depth: 3.15mm
Table Percentage: 49.77%
Depth Percentage: 64.30%
Crown ∠: 34.73°
Crown Depth: 17.44%
Pavilion ∠: 41.18°
Pavilion Depth: 43.75%
 
Congratulations! I believe AVRs were designed with optimal light return. Should be a very pretty stone. Post
some pics when you get it.
 
thanks tyty! that's why i didn't post before i went ahead and bought it. but then i saw some posts that had me wondering about the IS/aset and the med fluoro (heard the term over-blue used in reference to a med blue fluro stone - had not heard that before). plus it scored a 3.5 on the HCA - yikes!

i remember you weighed in on my eternity thread also. everyone's input was so extremely helpful. i kept vascillating and never stayed in LOVE with any one option - except that through it all i kept coming back to this stone (i think i even posted about it vaguely in my poll thread). then someone started a thread looking for D/IFs under a half carat, and i became more and more anxious that this one was going to disappear. that's how i finally knew this was the direction to go in. it felt right, and worth the money and the occasion in a way that the eternities did not.

sorry to blabber on.... i just wanted those who helped so much with my eternity search to know i really appreciated their input, and to know why i ended up with this instead!!
 
rainydaze|1310483142|2967247 said:
thanks tyty! that's why i didn't post before i went ahead and bought it. but then i saw some posts that had me wondering about the IS/aset and the med fluoro (heard the term over-blue used in reference to a med blue fluro stone - had not heard that before). plus it scored a 3.5 on the HCA - yikes!

i remember you weighed in on my eternity thread also. everyone's input was so extremely helpful. i kept vascillating and never stayed in LOVE with any one option - except that through it all i kept coming back to this stone (i think i even posted about it vaguely in my poll thread). then someone started a thread looking for D/IFs under a half carat, and i became more and more anxious that this one was going to disappear. that's how i finally knew this was the direction to go in. it felt right, and worth the money and the occasion in a way that the eternities did not.

sorry to blabber on.... i just wanted those who helped so much with my eternity search to know i really appreciated their input, and to know why i ended up with this instead!!

HCA does not matter when you have an ASET/IS image. The AVRs are cut for light performance but have different characteristics than traditional RBs so might score poorly on HCA.

How do you plan to set it?
 
thanks slg! that is a huge relief to know that about the AVRs and the HCA.

as for the setting, i had imagined something like this (linky below) - so when i came across this setting on ann mackay's site, i couldn't even believe it!! i am thinking i would wear it on my middle finger, right hand. i have also been toying with the idea of having blue sapphires on the sides...

http://www.annmckaystudio.com/engagement/959.html
 
rainydaze|1310506119|2967526 said:
thanks slg! that is a huge relief to know that about the AVRs and the HCA.

as for the setting, i had imagined something like this (linky below) - so when i came across this setting on ann mackay's site, i couldn't even believe it!! i am thinking i would wear it on my middle finger, right hand. i have also been toying with the idea of having blue sapphires on the sides...

http://www.annmckaystudio.com/engagement/959.html

That stone will be gorgeous in that setting. I have a small .46 stone that I want to have set in a ring but there are just
so many choices I cant decide what I want!
 
tell me about it!! i am pretty bad at decisions (as is well documented here on PS :cheeky: ). i love how delicate the ann mackay is, and how it lets the diamond take center stage - however, i have always wanted blue sapph's and this is kind of the perfect opportunity. but then, that changes the whole feel of the ring, and i don't know yet which i prefer more.

what have you considered for yours?
 
rainydaze|1310483142|2967247 said:
thanks tyty! that's why i didn't post before i went ahead and bought it. but then i saw some posts that had me wondering about the IS/aset and the med fluoro (heard the term over-blue used in reference to a med blue fluro stone - had not heard that before)

Medium blue getting over-blue is possible, much lower chance compare to stronger fluor, but unlikely to be in GOG's branded stone in that case, it will be a tarnish to their name instead of an asset. If you are worried, you can ask GOG if it is an over-blue.
 
The AVR is not a traditional RB so the HCA is not really relevant I think.

That brand is one you can blindly trust in my opinion. Just pick the color/carat/clarity you like and buy with confidence you are getting a top performer for its type!
 
Dreamer_D|1310525407|2967759 said:
The AVR is not a traditional RB so the HCA is not really relevant I think.

That brand is one you can blindly trust in my opinion. Just pick the color/carat/clarity you like and buy with confidence you are getting a top performer for its type!

+1

They are beautiful stones for sure, and a D is going to be gorgeous!!!! I love Ann McKay settings, too!
 
I think your HCA is actually 4.1! Double yikes even if this is an AVR. Remember that angles give you a more accurate HCA.

Selected: 64.3% depth, 49.8% table, 34.7° crown angle, 41.2° pavilion angle
The result is for a symmetrical diamond with a medium girdle and very good polish

Factor Grade
Light Return Very Good
Fire Good
Scintillation Good
Spread
or diameter for weight Good
Total Visual Performance 4.1 - Good - Only if price is your main criterion
 
Klokke said:
I think your HCA is actually 4.1! Double yikes even if this is an AVR. Remember that angles give you a more accurate HCA.

Selected: 64.3% depth, 49.8% table, 34.7° crown angle, 41.2° pavilion angle
The result is for a symmetrical diamond with a medium girdle and very good polish

Factor Grade
Light Return Very Good
Fire Good
Scintillation Good
Spread
or diameter for weight Good
Total Visual Performance 4.1 - Good - Only if price is your main criterion

Sorry, klokke, I think you're wrong because the HCA calculator can be used only for round diamonds:
"The Holloway Cut Adviser (U.S. Patent 7,251,619) estimates a round diamonds appeal based on its potential Light Return, Fire, Scintillation and Spread."
 
purplesilk|1310544122|2967887 said:
Klokke said:
I think your HCA is actually 4.1! Double yikes even if this is an AVR. Remember that angles give you a more accurate HCA.

Selected: 64.3% depth, 49.8% table, 34.7° crown angle, 41.2° pavilion angle
The result is for a symmetrical diamond with a medium girdle and very good polish

Factor Grade
Light Return Very Good
Fire Good
Scintillation Good
Spread
or diameter for weight Good
Total Visual Performance 4.1 - Good - Only if price is your main criterion

Sorry, klokke, I think you're wrong because the HCA calculator can be used only for round diamonds:
"The Holloway Cut Adviser (U.S. Patent 7,251,619) estimates a round diamonds appeal based on its potential Light Return, Fire, Scintillation and Spread."

klokke, the AVR is a round (they have an AVC which is a cushion) however it is a different cut than a traditional rb. from what others are saying, it sounds like even so, the HCA isn't useful for this cut. thank goodness!!! :)
 
Stone-cold11|1310509076|2967558 said:
rainydaze|1310483142|2967247 said:
thanks tyty! that's why i didn't post before i went ahead and bought it. but then i saw some posts that had me wondering about the IS/aset and the med fluoro (heard the term over-blue used in reference to a med blue fluro stone - had not heard that before)

Medium blue getting over-blue is possible, much lower chance compare to stronger fluor, but unlikely to be in GOG's branded stone in that case, it will be a tarnish to their name instead of an asset. If you are worried, you can ask GOG if it is an over-blue.

thanks Stone-cold!! that's very reassuring!
 
thanks Dreamer and ds! that's what i had thought from being here on PS (just pick and go, lol) but then my nerves crept in and got the better of me! :errrr: :)
 
I agree with Dreamer and DS...no worries about that stone at all. It is going to be gorgeous!!!
 
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