I found a local jeweler...

[Dreamer_D]

Who can actually show me I or J color diamonds in the 1.7ct range!

Now I can know for sure how I feel about color in that size. Should see them on Friday! I hope they don''t look... hissssss... yellow!

 

[bgray]

Date: 4/14/2010 6:17:41 PM
Author:dreamer_d
Who can actually show me I or J color diamonds in the 1.7ct range!

Now I can know for sure how I feel about color in that size. Should see them on Friday! I hope they don''t look... hissssss... yellow!

Dreamer--are you going to look for stones with blue fluorescence?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 4/14/2010 6:24:37 PM
Author: bgray

Date: 4/14/2010 6:17:41 PM
Author:dreamer_d
Who can actually show me I or J color diamonds in the 1.7ct range!

Now I can know for sure how I feel about color in that size. Should see them on Friday! I hope they don''t look... hissssss... yellow!

Dreamer--are you going to look for stones with blue fluorescence?

Now that is a good idea! But I don''t know if BGD signature stones are allowed to have flor... so I would lose my upgradableness. Is that a word?

For now I just want to see what the color actually looks like just pure and on its own.

 

[Lula]

Oh, I''m glad you''re able to do this. If you are okay with J color in a larger size, it would open up so many more inventory possibilities.

Given the news about future price increases, it would be great if you could find something soon.

 

[PerRana]

My stone is a 1.79 GIA J/VSI. It faces up pretty white - warmer from the side. It was my compromise for a larger stone. No regrets.

 

[PerRana]

Another pic

 

[yssie]

Yeay!!!




I can''t wait to hear what you think! Just be sure to spend lots and lots of quality time with them, so you know you won''t second guess yourself later

 

[LtlFirecracker]

Can''t wait to hear your thoughts. Make sure you put the diamonds by the window away from the jewelry store lighting!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 4/14/2010 7:57:00 PM
Author: LtlFirecracker
Can't wait to hear your thoughts. Make sure you put the diamonds by the window away from the jewelry store lighting!

He said I could take them outside with him too

Don't worry mama, I know all the methods!

I just hope that it will be enough "time", like Yssie says, to get a comfortable feel for things.

Honestly, I really think so much of our impressions of diamonds are in our minds. I loved all my diamonds *until* something bugged me

I am crazy clearly. But I want a bigger diamond so I have to find a fault with my current one, right?

It is like men. If you want to marry Hugh Jackman, well somehow ya gotta get rid of the current spouse. So you focus on all his flaws so you can get rid of him in good conscience. Really, current hubby is a great guy. But if you want Hugh, then suddenly the fact that he only shaves once every two weeks becomes the *end of the world*!

Anyhoot. There's my thoughts.

 

[LtlFirecracker]

Date: 4/14/2010 8:32:41 PM
Author: dreamer_d

Date: 4/14/2010 7:57:00 PM

Author: LtlFirecracker

Can''t wait to hear your thoughts. Make sure you put the diamonds by the window away from the jewelry store lighting!

He said I could take them outside with him too

Don''t worry mama, I know all the methods!


I just hope that it will be enough ''time'', like Yssie says, to get a comfortable feel for things.


Honestly, I really think so much of our impressions of diamonds are in our minds. I loved all my diamonds *until* something bugged me

I am crazy clearly. But I want a bigger diamond so I have to find a fault with my current one, right?



It is like men. If you want to marry Hugh Jackman, well somehow ya gotta get rid of the current spouse. So you focus on all his flaws so you can get rid of him in good conscience. Really, current hubby is a great guy. But if you want Hugh, then suddenly the fact that he only shaves once every two weeks becomes the *end of the world*!

Anyhoot. There''s my thoughts.

That analogy was making me laugh

I get what you are saying. I had a temporary bout of DDS when my friend got a huge ring last week. But than I cleaned my diamond, it got shiny and looked big again, and got over it. I am the opposite, I love my stone, so I try to see past any flaws and do everything possible to prevent DDS. But part of that is just that my FI picked it out without my help, and got me what I wanted, not what he wanted to get me.

Hopefully you will beable to upgrade to a that will be the "perfect size" and you will be able to overlook any small flaws and love the stone for everything it is. I am sue if someone really wanted to marry Hugh Jackman, you would deal with any little annoying quirks he had

 

[yssie]

Hmm.


Shaving may not be the best point of focus..

 

[Dreamer_D]

Hugh can do whatever he wants and I would love him dearly

My mom actually met him once. She owned a small shop in a tourity area and he came in one day. She said he was the most handsome man she ever saw and that he was also the nicest star who she has ever met!

Another time Whoopie Goldberg came in and my grandmother was there. Grandma said, "My, you look just like Whoopie Goldberg! Wait, you are Whoopie! Can I hug you?" and then she launched herself at Whoopie. My mother said, "I am so sorry Whoopie, this is my mother

". Whoopie said, ''Don''t worry, I embarass my daughter all the time too." LOL


Anyways, Ltl you are engaging in a healthy relationship promoting cognition that will draw you closer to your diamond in the long run!

On the other hand, focusing on flaws serves to drive a wedge into any relationship. Whether you do one or the other depends not on the actual diamond and its traits, but on the beholder''s attitude. This is why I think that it is all in my head. I know too much psychology to think otherwise.

 

[Dreamer_D]

I want a diamond that looks like this...

 

[PumpkinPie]

it''s great that you found a place to see colours in real life - I would find that necessary for sure, especially with such a large stone!

 

[softly softly]

Dear Dreamer,

Please buy the biggest I or J BGD you can find/afford. Please do not be distracted by other goals (i.e 3 stone rings) because you know that size matters - it''s your Hugh Jackman factor.

As an aside re Hugh Jackman it''s important to ask yourself just what it is that you find so attractive about him because quite frankly the man has appeared in some very ordinary films (hello ''Australia'') so I don''t think it''s his acting ability that excites you. Take from that what you will regarding your diamond quest.

Yours sincerely,

Softly Softly

P.S feel free to ignore my advice.

 

[legallyspoiled]

upgradability?? lmbo. i love making up words.

 

[motownmama]

FYI - Merriam Webster says it IS indeed a word!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 4/15/2010 9:42:56 AM
Author: softly softly
As an aside re Hugh Jackman it''s important to ask yourself just what it is that you find so attractive about him because quite frankly the man has appeared in some very ordinary films (hello ''Australia'') so I don''t think it''s his acting ability that excites you. Take from that what you will regarding your diamond quest.

Hmmm... yes, it does appear that my love of Hugh is focussed on only one aspect, and I am patently willing to ignore all other aspects of his nature

I like him because he is big and pretty. Just like I like my diamonds.

 

[elle_chris]

Dreamer- Last year I thought of upgrading to a 3.29 I. Then I woke up and remembered that seeing any tint in my stones bug me. So I never went through with it.

I remember you upgraded your K to a G so I''d give alot of thought before going with a J. I know size matters, at least to a point. But in the long run, since the color bugged you enough with the K, I think maybe color might trump size for you. Be very careful about going too low.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 4/15/2010 11:52:18 AM
Author: elle_chris
Dreamer- Last year I thought of upgrading to a 3.29 I. Then I woke up and remembered that seeing any tint in my stones bug me. So I never went through with it.

I remember you upgraded your K to a G so I'd give alot of thought before going with a J. I know size matters, at least to a point. But in the long run, since the color bugged you enough with the K, I think maybe color might trump size for you. Be very careful about going too low.

Yes, I hear you. Actually, I am fairly certain a J is out for me, even if it does not look so shabby in person it would not be mind clean for me. My husband is also against it

I am more focussed on seeing what an 'I' looks like, I think, and also seeing whether the jump from 1.5 to 1.7ct is worth it to me.

 

[Rockout]

Hi Dreamer,

I thought you were near Toronto but I may be wrong. there was a ring I saw in First Canadian Place at a Jeweler named Trinity that was the following specs (quite vague) - 2.16 I I-J colour, med cut. It was very early in my search but I knew wnough to know that any 2.16 stone for 8k was way too low. If you wanted to see an I-J (as I said they were vague about the colour at the time) you could check it out.

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 4/15/2010 12:41:54 PM
Author: Rockout
Hi Dreamer,

I thought you were near Toronto but I may be wrong. there was a ring I saw in First Canadian Place at a Jeweler named Trinity that was the following specs (quite vague) - 2.16 I I-J colour, med cut. It was very early in my search but I knew wnough to know that any 2.16 stone for 8k was way too low. If you wanted to see an I-J (as I said they were vague about the colour at the time) you could check it out.

I am not near TO anymore, we moved this past winter to the west coast. But thanks for the tip!

 

[Dreamer_D]

SO, I saw some diamonds

I saw a 1.80ct J SI1, a 1.71ct I SI1, and a 1.67ct G SI1. All GIA certed.

First of all, the size was

I would not want to go any bigger right now in my life. It was big enough for the POW factor on my hand, great coverage, but not so big as to make me feel self-conscious, which is how I feel when it hits 2ct. So woop woop!

I looked at the diamonds in the store lighting and of course they all looked the same

I then took them over by a very large bank of windows at the front of the store and looked at them in mixed lighting. I would easily tell which was the J/I and which was the G. BUT I could not tell the I from the J. And, though the I/J did look a shade wamer than the G face up, they were still both perfectly white face up. In the store, when I looked from the pavilion view there was a slight tint to the I/J stones to my eye. This was mostly compared to the G though. On their own, they did not look overly tinted. I liked the way they looked, it was not off putting to me. The store was painted a buttery yellow color, though, and even in that lighting the G has a slight tint.

We also took them outside on to the street and there the difference between the I/J and the G from the pavilion view was really minimal. And face up all three looked perfectly white.

Mu husband also liked the I/J stones, and previously he had been very anti-J.

Of course, we preferred the G. It was spectacular. But a well cut G SI1 in this size is about $16000, which is an amount I am not now or ever prepared to spend on my diamond. And size is about one billion times more important to me than color. Maybe a zillon times more important

A 1.7ct I SI1 is about $12K and a 1.7ct J is about $10k. Big price difference. Dropping to SI2 will save a pretty penny, bringing the I color down to the $10k range and H color down to the $11k range. So there is that option. But such diamonds are very hard to find that are truly eye clean.

So where does that leave me? I am not really sure

All I know for sure is I want a rock that is over the 1.7ct mark.

 

[MrsBettyBoop]

Aha! Come on over...

 

[15years]

Yeah, we''d love to have you in the J club. Everyone who has seen my J (still unset) thinks it is really "white". When I tell them it is a J, they are just stumped! But whatever you chose, I''m happy for you.

 

[yssie]

Date: 4/17/2010 8:22:59 PM
Author: dreamer_d
SO, I saw some diamonds

I saw a 1.80ct J SI1, a 1.71ct I SI1, and a 1.67ct G SI1. All GIA certed.

First of all, the size was

I would not want to go any bigger right now in my life. It was big enough for the POW factor on my hand, great coverage, but not so big as to make me feel self-conscious, which is how I feel when it hits 2ct. So woop woop!

I looked at the diamonds in the store lighting and of course they all looked the same

I then took them over by a very large bank of windows at the front of the store and looked at them in mixed lighting. I would easily tell which was the J/I and which was the G. BUT I could not tell the I from the J. And, though the I/J did look a shade wamer than the G face up, they were still both perfectly white face up. In the store, when I looked from the pavilion view there was a slight tint to the I/J stones to my eye. This was mostly compared to the G though. On their own, they did not look overly tinted. I liked the way they looked, it was not off putting to me. The store was painted a buttery yellow color, though, and even in that lighting the G has a slight tint.

We also took them outside on to the street and there the difference between the I/J and the G from the pavilion view was really minimal. And face up all three looked perfectly white.

Mu husband also liked the I/J stones, and previously he had been very anti-J.

Of course, we preferred the G. It was spectacular. But a well cut G SI1 in this size is about $16000, which is an amount I am not now or ever prepared to spend on my diamond. And size is about one billion times more important to me than color. Maybe a zillon times more important

A 1.7ct I SI1 is about $12K and a 1.7ct J is about $10k. Big price difference. Dropping to SI2 will save a pretty penny, bringing the I color down to the $10k range and H color down to the $11k range. So there is that option. But such diamonds are very hard to find that are truly eye clean.

So where does that leave me? I am not really sure

All I know for sure is I want a rock that is over the 1.7ct mark.

Oh my, dreamer, the plot thickens!!!

So based on what you saw, where do you think your sweet spot is? Are you going to actively look for a clean SI2 or do you prefer to stay in a higher clarity range?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Date: 4/17/2010 9:05:28 PM
Author: yssie


Oh my, dreamer, the plot thickens!!!

So based on what you saw, where do you think your sweet spot is? Are you going to actively look for a clean SI2 or do you prefer to stay in a higher clarity range?

H SI1 is my sweet spot!

But out of the question in terms of budget.

See my problem is that I am impatient. I have the money all socked away in my savings account and it is WAITING to be spent on my new diamond! And there is nothing for me right now! And I know it will take a while to find a truly eye clean SI2 in the size and color I want

But if I am honest with myself, I know that H Si2 would be preferable to J SI1 for me, even though the former will cost a little more.

But neither is totally mind clean to me -- J color or SI2. Something will have to give to get that size, and it ain''t gonna be the budget I''ll tell you that, it is stretched to the max for this year.

 

[Bella_mezzo]

can''t wait to see what 1.7+ diamond you end up with....it will be magnificent!

 

[yssie]

Ah.. I totally understand needing it now!



So another q, would you be getting a stone in the right size now and upgrading to a higher clarity (or colour) in a few months/years, if the perfect One doesn't show itself soon? Or is this IT so to speak? The one big advantage to getting the H SI2 now, even though you know you want a higher clarity, is that you get to live with an H colour for a few months or however long - find out if it's colourless enough for you in the long run

I'm SO excited for you!!

 

[Dreamer_D]

Thanks for the excitement peeps!

I am very excited too, it does not feel real. I *never* thought I would be getting a diamond of this size, though it has been my dream right from my start on PS. When we started, spending $10k just seemed out of the question. But spread over three years, suddenly it seems more reasonable. Gotta love upgrades

Date: 4/17/2010 10:45:57 PM
Author: yssie

So another q, would you be getting a stone in the right size now and upgrading to a higher clarity (or colour) in a few months/years, if the perfect One doesn''t show itself soon? Or is this IT so to speak? The one big advantage to getting the H SI2 now, even though you know you want a higher clarity, is that you get to live with an H colour for a few months or however long - find out if it''s colourless enough for you in the long run

The possibility of upgrading would be there in the future, but it really would need to wait. We have some other financial goals to tackle, and also I will be taking another 12 months maternity leave at some point in the next 2 years, and that means less income for a period of time. Anyways, this is not my forever stone, but I really really need it to be my "for 3-4 years" stone at least

Unless the trade was more leteral... but the last two diamonds I got were not what I really wanted ,in either color or clarity, and honestly I am sick of not adoring my diamond! So I want to make sure I wait to get it right, or as right as I can.

I know that H color is colorless enough for me. I actually think that I would be fine with an I color too... I realized today that my MIL''s diamond is an I and it looks colorless to me unless I really really look hard.

I am also fine with SI2 if it is truly eye clean even at close examination. But perhaps that is not actually possible to find, or would be a needle in a haystack?

Some moments I think that I would rather have a J SI1 and accept the color, and other times I think H/I Si2 and accept the possibilty of inclusions you can see in some lights. And then sometimes I think I should just raid the bank account and fine another grand to get an I SI1