How awfully bad of a cut is this?

[jadeleaves]

Hi!

My 2cents worth:

My husband and I are looking to upgrade my e-ring to a 3 stone ring. We knew nothing abt diamonds when we got engaged and when he suggested upgrading my e-ring, I did some research on the quality of my stone and found out that it wasn't a very good cut. However, I still want to keep my diamond in the 'upgrade', as the stone is a symbol of our love and our committment to each other.

Bear in mind that this is even after we realized that it is not a good quality stone - he offered to get me 3 new stones for my upgrade but I just can't leave my current stone out of the new ring because of the sentimental reason (even though I now have a tricky task of trying to match my stone to 2 others whilst trying not to sacrifice cut, ie, getting ideal cut stones but match it to mine so that the difference is not obvious to the naked eye)

That said, I'm sure your partner would love and treasure the diamond you are giving her - there's more to the stone than numbers on a piece of paper!

 

[Rhino]

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On 5/26/2004 3:08:10 PM Magnum wrote:

If they won't give you a refund, maybe you can ask if they'll let you exchange it for a different stone from them. That way, they still have your business, and you're a happy customer. It can't hurt to ask. And by doing that, you can give them a range for the proportions that you're looking for, and hopefully find a better cut diamond. Being in the diamond district, they should have access to stones that fall within your cut criteria. That may be an approach to consider.----------------

That is some excellent advice Magnum.

mgongloff ... if they will let you exchange we'll all help you out with what you should DEMAND with regards to proportions and cut.

noobie ... is that M42 (Orion nebula) in your avatar with "trapezium"?

 

[Mara]

I second the suggestion to try to work with the vendor to get a better cut stone. That way you come out with a better diamond and they still have your sale. If you CAN do this, let us know and people will be more than happy to give you some basic info to then give to your jeweler which will help steer you in the right direction (e.g. what to stay away from and what #'s to look for to help weed out some duds). As you already noted, this stone is not going to be the more spectacularly cut....if you cannot work with the vendor to get a better cut and still keep your shirt....don't bother selling the diamond...you will not get near what you paid unfortunately.




If that is the case and you are stuck...set the stone in a setting which will let the most light through to it and therefore hopefully minimize the dark areas; and present her with it. She'll be jazzed to have a proposal and a diamond...girls are like that.

So I'd try to see what you CAN do with the vendor...what they are willing to help you with, and if they are un-accommodating...chalk it up to a lesson learned and know this is probably not the LAST diamond you will ever buy, Pricescope and a diamond education will come in handy in the future.

Good luck!

 

[mgongloff]

Jennifer: I totally agree with using the honey rather than the vinegar approach -- I've been practicing my sweet-talking for tomorrow morning.

vtigger: Thanks. I'll keep all that in mind.

Iop: I'm increasingly feeling this way about it. I took the thing out and walked it around the house again last night, like a parent with a sick child, and it does look beautiful, and it does sparkle, and I'm starting to grow attached to the flawed thing. I'm going to try to get an upgrade without spending a fortune, but if I can't, I think I can live without it. You're right -- the most important thing is the fact that I'm marrying this woman I love.

moremoremore: Yeah, I'm willing to shift a little bit on the clarity, if need be. I can even go with an H on the color -- and even learn to love some fluorescence! But I'm not going to go crazy. I'll try to get a better cut, but I'm not going to break the bank or throw a big tantrum.

Lynn B: Thanks so much -- I will let you know.

jadeleaves: That's a wonderful story, and it's one of the reasons why I'll feel OK if I can't get an upgrade.

Thanks again, everybody, for your terrific insights. I'm really glad I stumbled across this forum.

 

[mgongloff]

Mara and Rhino: Sorry, didn't see your posts on the second page. Thanks also for your advice. I've got whole lists of pavilion and crown angles and depth and table percentages and girdle widths that I'd prefer, so I think I can handle dealing with the jeweler. But it's nice to know where to come for help if I need it.

Thanks so much for taking the time to respond.

 

[noobie]

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On 5/26/2004 11:25:20 PM Rhino wrote:





noobie ... is that M42 (Orion nebula) in your avatar with 'trapezium'?
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It's actually Supernova 1987A as seen from the hubble.

Good luck mgongloff. Hold your ground. Have your positions firmly decided before you go and don't let him talk you into something you don't want.

Let us know how it turns out!

 

[mgongloff]

Thanks, Noobie. I think my negotiating position is helped a little bit by the fact that I don't feel quite so desperate about it any more. If they don't want to work with me, it won't be the end of the world. I'll let you know what happens.