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talo79

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hi all.
i have been looking through ps for awhile. wow there are alot of beautiful rings! i have now joined ps.
i am in the process of look at a design for my engagement ring. i need some advice that my frineds dont know much about since none are engaged.
i really love the halo ring and when we saw the jeweler he asked what pointers i wanted around the middle stone.
we have decided to get a 1ct RB stone. when he showed me the smaller stones he had 2 pointers and 2.5 pointers and i automatically went for the 2.5 thinking "wow bigger diamonds."
but now im not so sure if that was the right choice. since looking through ps i have noticed alot of halos are 1.5 pointers.
could you help me with opinions if you think i am going to big for a 1ct. i want the middle stone to pop out not get lost amongst the halo.
i found this pic on ps and i want her ring!!! would anyone know the size of middle stones and pointers or even guess.
thank you ladies... or gents!
p.s please let me know if pic doesnt show and if you have any halo please post.
 
Hello, welcome to PS! your pic didn''t work. Seeing its a pic that someone has posted previous, most likely you will need to rename it before you can post it. Try that.
 
thanks for that. i will try again but im not sure im doing it correctly...

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it work. thanks for that!
do you have any ideas for me?
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Are there any stats where you found that picture - can you link to it?

I would go with 1.5pt personally. My SIL has a 1.05ct rb and it would be overwhelmed by 2.5pters.

I have 2 pt diamonds in the setting on my ring and they aren''t that tiny.

Personally, I like very delicate looking halos.
 
Sorry to threadjack, but does anyone know the size of the pointers on th HW micropave halo?

Thanks!!
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Hi talo thanx for re posting that - as was mentioned, it would be best to know what size is the stone in the pic, but it seems to me that u are fond of delicate looking halos from this ring you''ve chosen. Great taste thats a gorgeous ring! I''m no pro, but I think you should go with the 1.5 pointers.
I know you said you are getting a ring made locally, but Leon Mege makes delicate halos and has a very good rep here on PS http://www.artofplatinum.com/
maybe u can look here for ideas
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I wouldn't go for bigger than 1 pointers. Personally, I prefer the thinner, more delicate halos (to each his own). I woudl guess the HW is about 1 pointers or maybe less.

From the pic you posted, I would guess 1-1.5 pointers. But again, and also as other PS'ers have pointed out, i'd go for 1 pointers or less.
 
I''ve got a micropave halo and I''ve got fifty 1 pointers on it, and I chose that because it looks more antique-y and provides a great amount of sparkle without overpowering the center diamond (~1ct.)
 
wow thanks everyone for the quick response!
well i think i will go for the 1.5.
i do prefer the fine halo with very minimal metal around it. i dont like too much metal.


thanks pandora. its so hard to imagine it. i started to freak when i realise that most use 1-1.5
thanks arjunajane for the link too
and everyone else for their inputs!
unfortunatly for me there was no stats at all except its a tracori ring which i look for on the tracori site but didnt find same. i dont want to end up with a chunky halo. i want a pretty one lol

im in australia and there is no leon here but the site is good with pics.
if anyone finds pretty looking halos please post them for me to see!
 
I agree with Pandora and Phoenix. The diamonds on the ring you posted appear to be smaller than 1.5 points each. You might want to go with 1 point diamonds, b/c 1.5 will create the antiquey "Legacy" look, but that is quite different from the look created by the superfine delicate halo in the ring you posted.--Which is BEAUTIFUL by the way. You need to ask your jeweler to make you a CAD showing the 1 pointers and then the 1.5 pointers b/c there really could be an appreciable difference in the look created by each. Please post how it all turns out. :-)
 
that tacori halo is one of the dantiest i''ve ever seen in person. my guess is they are not even 1 point diamonds. I think Ritani halos are less that 1 pointers too but am not 100% sure. i do think 1-1.5 would be fine if you''re wanting a little more substanial looking ring though.
 
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Date: 3/25/2008 9:39:49 AM
Author: talo79
wow thanks everyone for the quick response!
well i think i will go for the 1.5.
i do prefer the fine halo with very minimal metal around it. i dont like too much metal.


thanks pandora. its so hard to imagine it. i started to freak when i realise that most use 1-1.5
thanks arjunajane for the link too
and everyone else for their inputs!
unfortunatly for me there was no stats at all except its a tracori ring which i look for on the tracori site but didnt find same. i dont want to end up with a chunky halo. i want a pretty one lol

im in australia and there is no leon here but the site is good with pics.
if anyone finds pretty looking halos please post them for me to see!
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Hey talo, where in Aus are you? I''m a Perth resident...I am currently purchasing a princess of hearts diamond from GOG and was going to get a custom setting made from Pearlmans, who have a fantastic site that stock thousands of designer settings..you may want to check there for halo''s - they''re a PS fave
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I wouldn''t worry about the local designers to be totally honest..I know it doesn''t sound nice, but the quality and price u can get in US just make buying in Aus look unfavourable..There are a number of other PS''ers who are Aussie and are all stoked with their foreign PS vendor purchases!
 
There is no reason why you couldn''t go with Leon.

I''m in the UK and my e-ring was made in the US and then shipped.
 
thanks isabelle. so 1 pointers huh... i will have to look into it.i am so lucky i found you guys. my bf was happy to say yes to anything coz i keep changing my mind and he is over it and now will just agree lol
which makes it very hard to get an opinion!
i dont like the legacy ring. i mean its nice but here in sydney its the "in thing" and that is what i DONT want. i want something more unique. i have never seen a halo like this before in person. every 3rd person has the legacy.
it is hard to see the fine details...would you do pave or claw for the pointers? i have see some claw on PS but didnt like coz the claws were bigger than the diamonds and it look more metal than stone. my aim is to get as little metal as pos. how do you think these liile ones are set in? and do you think the main stone is claw setting?
 
This is a great thread. I never thought to question the actual diamond size in halos. I always stated I didn''t want it to overwhelm the center stone, keep it delicate. Now I wish I had paid more attention!
 
ok so i looked on the net abit more and i found this asscher cut. different stone i know but this is 20 small stones didnt say how many points. i think this makes the stone look small. can anyone make a guess as to how big these stones would be? the center stone is a 1ct.

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MOONWATER... do you have a halo e-ring?
 
I am not an expert. I think that "bead set" FULL CUT diamonds is what an authentic Tiffany Legacy has, and they are set by hand. The copies of the Legacy do often create bulky set diamonds, and/or diamonds that are not full cut around the halo and it changes the look. I think that the setting you posted looks like a pave, but again, I am not an expert on this. I would follow the advice of the PS-ers who know about this. You definitely want to use a jeweler who knows what they are doing to create your ring. Micro-pave creates a really delicate halo setting, but i am not sure if the ring you posted is micro-pave. The stones look a bit larger than that to me. I just checked the appraisal for my Legacy ring, and each diamond is 1 point. And it bears repeating that getting a full cut 1 point stone will make a difference as well. Go over to Tiffany.com and look at the Legacy engagement ring b/c you can see the way the authentic hand set bead setting looks with 1 point full cut diamonds as a comparison to the ring you posted earlier. I really think there is a huge difference in the look, even though both are nice. Essentially, it might come down much less to diamond size (b/c after all 1 point is quite small), and more to the setting style and/or whether each diamond is full cut or not. I will tell you something else that matters too: the ring needs to be made *for your stone*, b/c otherwise, you run a great risk of the diamond getting lost in the halo setting. I would also recommend emailing the picture you posted to the jeweler you select, and/or work with the PS experts to find the jeweler that can create the ring you want.
 
Date: 3/25/2008 10:50:24 AM
Author: Isabelle
I am not an expert. I think that ''bead set'' FULL CUT diamonds is what an authentic Tiffany Legacy has, and they are set by hand. The copies of the Legacy do often create bulky set diamonds, and/or diamonds that are not full cut around the halo and it changes the look. I think that the setting you posted looks like a pave, but again, I am not an expert on this. I would follow the advice of the PS-ers who know about this. You definitely want to use a jeweler who knows what they are doing to create your ring. Micro-pave creates a really delicate halo setting, but i am not sure if the ring you posted is micro-pave. The stones look a bit larger than that to me. I just checked the appraisal for my Legacy ring, and each diamond is 1 point. And it bears repeating that getting a full cut 1 point stone will make a difference as well. Go over to Tiffany.com and look at the Legacy engagement ring b/c you can see the way the authentic hand set bead setting looks with 1 point full cut diamonds as a comparison to the ring you posted earlier. I really think there is a huge difference in the look, even though both are nice. Essentially, it might come down much less to diamond size (b/c after all 1 point is quite small), and more to the setting style and/or whether each diamond is full cut or not. I will tell you something else that matters too: the ring needs to be made *for your stone*, b/c otherwise, you run a great risk of the diamond getting lost in the halo setting. I would also recommend emailing the picture you posted to the jeweler you select, and/or work with the PS experts to find the jeweler that can create the ring you want.
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When I say "the picture you posted", I mean the one you posted originally of the ring you like. Maybe that ring has micropave set full cut diamonds. That would account to the delicacy of the setting, but still make the diamonds look like individual stones. This is just a guess! :-)
 
Talo, I think the key for you in getting the look you want is to go with a prong-set look instead of a bezel set. The asscher you posted that you feel looks too chunky looks that way partly because there is a metal bezel around the center stone that clearly separates the melee from the center.

The delicate Ritani ring you've posted doesn't have that.

For scale, here's a link to a thread with a halo necklace. https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/thin-halos-with-1-pointers-how-big-of-a-difference-did-it-make-to-the-overall-look-of-your-center.58156/
Look at the second picture (which isn't as magnified and will give you a better 'real life' scale perception). The center stone is .75; the melee surrounding it are 1-pointers. This pendant has a notable metal bezel around the center stone, so try to imagine the piece without that.

Your 1 ct center will be a bit bigger, but not by much.

I'd likely stick with 1-pointers and prong-set the center stone if you want to achieve the proportional look of the Ritani piece you like.
 
Those are TINY diamonds. That setting is a tacori. And the TOTAL carat weight of the diamonds in that halo is .14 to .16 maximum. Each is much smaller than a 1 pointer. My halo is made up of diamonds at are about 2/3 a POINT each and they look HUGE in comparison to the diamonds in that halo (I've compared them side by side in the store). They are very fine delicate diamonds. You should definitely prong set the diamond.

Here's a pic of my halo. Stone is 5.9 by 5.9 about. Diamonds are 1.3 mm in the halo. Less than a point each for a total of .20 carats in the ring. If I re-did my halo, I'd go DAINTIER with the diamonds even. I really love the tacori look.

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Date: 3/25/2008 12:29:12 PM
Author: Gypsy
Those are TINY diamonds. That setting is a tacori. And the TOTAL carat weight of the diamonds in that halo is .14 to .16 maximum. Each is much smaller than a 1 pointer. My halo is made up of diamonds at are about 2/3 a POINT each and they look HUGE in comparison to the diamonds in that halo (I''ve compared them side by side in the store). They are very fine delicate diamonds. You should definitely prong set the diamond.


Here''s a pic of my halo. Stone is 5.9 by 5.9 about. Diamonds are 1.3 mm in the halo. Less than a point each for a total of .20 carats in the ring. If I re-did my halo, I''d go DAINTIER with the diamonds even. I really love the tacori look.


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Now that is a beautiful ring!
 
Date: 3/25/2008 12:29:12 PM
Author: Gypsy
Those are TINY diamonds. That setting is a tacori. And the TOTAL carat weight of the diamonds in that halo is .14 to .16 maximum. Each is much smaller than a 1 pointer. My halo is made up of diamonds at are about 2/3 a POINT each and they look HUGE in comparison to the diamonds in that halo (I've compared them side by side in the store). They are very fine delicate diamonds. You should definitely prong set the diamond.

Here's a pic of my halo. Stone is 5.9 by 5.9 about. Diamonds are 1.3 mm in the halo. Less than a point each for a total of .20 carats in the ring. If I re-did my halo, I'd go DAINTIER with the diamonds even. I really love the tacori look.

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Thank you Isabelle!
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I can't edit my post anymore so I need to correct something.

That Tacori has diamonds in the basket (the side view of the ring) TOTAL carat weight of diamonds for the entire setting is .14 to .16 so the total carat weight in the HALO is less than even that. I've compared mine to a Ritani too. I wouldn't go larger than my mm size, personally. Not if you want a delicate halo.

OH... and I've compared my setting to the Harry Winston Cushion halo too ina cushion about 1 carat in size (so about 6 x 6 although it was a rectangle). And my diamonds/melee looked ENORMOUS in comparison. I was really surprised. They all use very tiny, delicately set, diamonds.
 
Gypsy your ring is beautiful... can you tell me stats?
it sounds like i should be doing a 1 pointer halo with a claw middle setting. thank you everyone! should the pointers be claw set too?
gypsy is yours?
 
Date: 3/25/2008 10:36:03 AM
Author: talo79
MOONWATER... do you have a halo e-ring?
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Not yet. It''s currently being made and I''m sure it''s too late to tell them what size for the halo! I''ll keep my fingers crossed and post pics when it''s ready.
 
Date: 3/25/2008 10:50:24 AM
Author: Isabelle
I am not an expert. I think that ''bead set'' FULL CUT diamonds is what an authentic Tiffany Legacy has, and they are set by hand. The copies of the Legacy do often create bulky set diamonds, and/or diamonds that are not full cut around the halo and it changes the look. I think that the setting you posted looks like a pave, but again, I am not an expert on this. I would follow the advice of the PS-ers who know about this. You definitely want to use a jeweler who knows what they are doing to create your ring. Micro-pave creates a really delicate halo setting, but i am not sure if the ring you posted is micro-pave. The stones look a bit larger than that to me. I just checked the appraisal for my Legacy ring, and each diamond is 1 point. And it bears repeating that getting a full cut 1 point stone will make a difference as well. Go over to Tiffany.com and look at the Legacy engagement ring b/c you can see the way the authentic hand set bead setting looks with 1 point full cut diamonds as a comparison to the ring you posted earlier. I really think there is a huge difference in the look, even though both are nice. Essentially, it might come down much less to diamond size (b/c after all 1 point is quite small), and more to the setting style and/or whether each diamond is full cut or not. I will tell you something else that matters too: the ring needs to be made *for your stone*, b/c otherwise, you run a great risk of the diamond getting lost in the halo setting. I would also recommend emailing the picture you posted to the jeweler you select, and/or work with the PS experts to find the jeweler that can create the ring you want.
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Great post Isabelle! I didn''t realize all of this info about the Legacy and that''s the ring I''m copying (with a RB center). I''m really hoping for 1 pointers now haha.
 
Date: 3/25/2008 11:06:35 AM
Author: Allison D.
Talo, I think the key for you in getting the look you want is to go with a prong-set look instead of a bezel set. The asscher you posted that you feel looks too chunky looks that way partly because there is a metal bezel around the center stone that clearly separates the melee from the center.

The delicate Ritani ring you''ve posted doesn''t have that.

For scale, here''s a link to a thread with a halo necklace. https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/thin-halos-with-1-pointers-how-big-of-a-difference-did-it-make-to-the-overall-look-of-your-center.58156/
Look at the second picture (which isn''t as magnified and will give you a better ''real life'' scale perception). The center stone is .75; the melee surrounding it are 1-pointers. This pendant has a notable metal bezel around the center stone, so try to imagine the piece without that.

Your 1 ct center will be a bit bigger, but not by much.

I''d likely stick with 1-pointers and prong-set the center stone if you want to achieve the proportional look of the Ritani piece you like.
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Now see, the 1 pointers in this one looks too big to me. I give up! I''ll just keep my fingers crossed that WF figured it out for me.
 
no it wont!!! i think it will look beautiful.
 
Maytal Hannah is making my halo, so I don't have pictures yet. My stone is 5.6mm and the halo with have just under 1 pointers.

This is a 1.5ct EC. I don't know the exact size on the halo, but IIRC they are significantly smaller than 1 pointers.

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This is a halo with 1 pointers. I cannot remember the size on the emerald (it was much smaller than the EC... I don't
remember if it was maybe .75? 1ct? can't recall).



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ETA: I am having my halo with a bezel because I want the shape of my stone defined (octagon) rather than giving the effect of a larger stone.
 
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