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help! Thoughts on 2.76 ct pear?

Not a well cut pear. There's all kinds of issues with obstruction going on in the bowtie region.
 
Hi Gypsy! Thank you so much for your reply! Would you mind sharing what I should look for in pears? I am looking for an e ring and want something in the 3 carat range. Not color sensitive and just looking for eye clean. Any help you can give is so appreciated! Thank you!!
 
Pears have sort of become my specialty recently, as much as I did not like them at all before I love them now. Perhaps I have not seen them much or knew that much about them in the past which has changed a lot recently. In fancy shapes a well cut stone is what appeals to your eyes, within a guideline of course. I personally favor wide pears leaning towards a heart and I truly dislike a heart cut but have found that wider pears have less of an issue with bowties, at least that has been my experience. They can show up larger but that depends (a fancy color modified pear I have which is wide cut is also deep, the two can be found together). There is definitely room for divergence when talking about this shape. I am extremely picky about bowties and hence the elongated cuts which are gorgeous when set in jewelry generally do not appeal to me as much as stones themselves even when they are otherwise stunning as they tend to show some bowtie and even a bit really tends to bother me. In the stone you have shown here, though I have not taken a good look at it, I have not really seen problems with the bowtie effect,however, the clarity issues really bother me here. I am most likely going to acquire an I1 even, however, there is a huge difference between inclusions and this stone you have shown has way too many black inclusions for my taste. Try to go with a stone that has no black inclusions if possible and definitely nothing that extends to the surface. Otherwise, within this shape you should select what appeals to you. There is nothing more gorgeous than a pear in my opinion when set in earrings, pendants and even rings. Again this is very personal but I have seen that recently pears have gotten increasingly more and more popular and good ones can be hard to find in the market though now certain companies specialize in cutting them perhaps also in response to the increased demand. I know that I personally am adding pears to my collections; my own collection as well.
 
Let me also add one important point here; in pears you really want to go for as high a color as you can, for this reason the second option was better but I personally do not think a D is necessary, I tend to choose E-F pears as the shape really emphasizes their icy white character. G-H stones are nice as well but especially in larger stones I would select at least an F because this shape also shows the yellow/brown tints more. The problem I have with the second option shown is that stone definitely has a bowtie. Now it does not appear bad and IRL when the stone moves you never see it as much but it truly depends on how much it bothers you; I personally do not want to see dark areas in white pears and no dark or white areas in fancy colored pears.
 
Ovincze- I have the same opinion. After scrolling through a ton of pears and seeing a few in person, I like the ones that have a l/w ratio of less than 1.5, it seems. I like the ones that look most like 'fat tear drops'. I actually couldn't see black inclusion in the 2.76 stone and was excited that the grade setting inclusions were twinning wisps.

I love pears and think they look huge on the hand. I can't help it- I'm a size girl and want something that looks big for $20k or under.
 
KushionKwest|1394885224|3634564 said:
Pear prices also seem to be all over the board. What about this? The shape is eye pleasing to me even though the ratio is higher than I thought I liked.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/pear-shaped/3.00-carat-d-color-si2-clarity-sku-207321
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This is a much better choice than the first one. It does have some bow tie action going on. A little too much for me. I don't
mind some arrow contrast going through the bow tie (like what you find in a round brilliant) but the faceting pattern up to it
needs to be a smooth transition.
 
+1 Too much bow-tie for my taste too

tyty333|1394889547|3634582 said:
KushionKwest|1394885224|3634564 said:
Pear prices also seem to be all over the board. What about this? The shape is eye pleasing to me even though the ratio is higher than I thought I liked.

http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/pear-shaped/3.00-carat-d-color-si2-clarity-sku-207321
Click to expand...


This is a much better choice than the first one. It does have some bow tie action going on. A little too much for me. I don't
mind some arrow contrast going through the bow tie (like what you find in a round brilliant) but the faceting pattern up to it
needs to be a smooth transition.
Click to expand...
 
This is a very interesting thread because after having looked at the plot of the first stone it appears to me that GIA is now doing what HRD is with their plots only showing what they consider the most important inclusions. I really hate this because that stone has way more inclusions on the video than what is on the plot which made me think that stones did not have the right certificates. It truly appears that way to me based on what I see on the site like that particular certificate is not for the stone on the video because a myriad of inclusions are missing from the plot and I would actually grade that stone no better than I1. Very strange but it is a definite possibility that GIA does the same thing but then how can people trust certificates. I have the same problem with HRD, they really are a wonderful lab after visiting them as far as equipment, security and research but I am not happy with their grading and now I am not happy with how GIA graded that first stone. Out of the three options I too prefer No.3. but I would keep looking; No. 1 had the least bow tie going on, 2 has a strong one and 3 has a pretty strong one as well. My most favorite pear right now has a 1.29 L to W but this is actually a modified pear because it is a fancy yellow; the most perfectly cut pear I have seen so far but again not a classic pear. No. 3 seems well cut but not quite there; I think if you find a wide pear that also has depth then you may find your perfect stone but many other factors have to be right. SI would be fine as long as the inclusions are not very visible, I would stick with a high color not worse than F but in this carat weight range preferably E. This is exciting, keep showing us options if you find more.:)))
 
Are there any other sites that post videos aside from James Allen? Or any vendors known for being pear experts? Thanks, Ovincze!

I found a pic of a pear that I LOVE the proportions on: image_1402.jpg

I will want to set it in a halo but yellow gold.
 
t seems that you lke a chubby pear rather than one that is more elongated/
 
The pear you like on the pic has nice proportions, the setting bothers me because it reflects into the stone, guess I would choose a different setting for a pear but otherwise it looks good. I buy wholesale from cutters so it is hard for me to give you suggestions for a vendor especially with a video. I normally purchase after either seeing the stones IRL or because this industry is so largely based on trust I ask for them to select for me knowing what I like and what I do not want in my pears. I can tell you that videos are nothing like real life and even in real life much depends on the lighting, etc. I bought my fancy yellow that is cut to perfection in my opinion after seeing her at a show but when taking her out in daylight at home for the first time my heart skipped a beat, she was breathtaking, awe inspiring and all that under better lighting conditions that she by far surpassed my imagination and what I remembered. Those stones that evoke emotions and are to me like a living being are the ones that are cut the best, from the same company I had the same thing happen with white pears and even small white rounds; a diamond can be very white and pretty but when you see one cut to perfection it is like it is alive and almost speaks to you, the difference is tremendous.
 
Ok, I like the proportions of this stone, I think it is very nice but I have to tell you honestly that I am concerned about those huge black inclusions on the top. Now, here is the thing, that biggest one could perhaps be pronged and a lot of them could be hidden by the right setting made by the right jeweler. To me personally this is an I1 stone and that can be fine, some of those are really nice when set and some even lose if you choose the right one. The color, the shape are very appealing, there is not really much bowtie going on, even to me and you know I am picky but why do those inclusions have to be black?:))) I have recently loved and selected an F I1 pear but that one had a cloud no black, as long as you understand that some of those inclusions cannot be hidden and you are ok with that they may be visible...
 
We bought a stone.. It's 99% going back as I know the inclusion is huge and centered but with price, decided to give it a look in person:http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-dia...y a huge pipe dream and considering canceling
 
Perhaps you should see it IRL if you already ordered it, what bothers me are the black inclusions right in the center of the stone; those will probably be at least somewhat visible to the naked eye. It would be better if it was a cloud not in the center of the table, that could perhaps be acceptable in an I1 stone but my only concern is that even so it can affect the brilliance of the stone. In a stone with great color that is not always the case and inclusions can actually add to the character of the stone but black inclusions have always bothered me a lot as I think they are visually much more disturbing. Please keep us posted after your stone arrives about what you think; sometimes pix/videos make the stones look worse than what they actually look like in real life (but the opposite can happen too). Remember that you are the one that has to love the stone and you know what it is that pleases you and what faults you can accept.
 
Thank you so much for your reply!

Other than the inclusions, what are your thoughts? I am having a really hard time finding stones with the ratio I want!
 
Ovincenze- is this the kind of inclusion that could be laser enhanced? I know that is not popular around here but saw a clarity enhanced cushion for sale in the Preloved section which gave me this idea.
 
Hi, sorry I have not responded yet, I have been thinking about what to tell you and how to tell you as treatments can be so subjective. Have you received the stone and what do you think of it? I have to tell you that I simply do not work with treated stones of any kinds, synthetics or imitations. Now treatments can be acceptable to some when disclosed but I simply am adamant about no treatments done on my stones for many reasons, there is a lot of negativity still surrounding such stones and if you ever wished to upgrade you may find yourself in a hard spot trying to sell or trade in that treated stones as many will also refuse to accept them.

In my opinion if you can live with the inclusions then do, I do too, while most the time I prefer good clarity and can be strict in grading my stones, I would normally go no lower than VS2 there have been cases I loved I grade stones; one such example was the high white pear that had what I remember a cloud but the stone was gorgeous overall and I find that to stones with a strong character inclusions only add to that (in certain cases which are the exceptions to me). My other one is a stone I have contemplated keeping myself as it has a very strong true golden color and in this stone the inclusions do not show to the naked eye due to its very strong color and the stone has such a presence that to me its "faults" make it even more beautiful. In both cases the cut was superb, very important and the color was top as well. Neither had visible black inclusions but even at that you might find very interesting stones I guess. Let us know what you think of the stone you ordered if you have received it.
 
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