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Mar 14, 2002
One Last sanity check

I have been looking at 2.0ct diamonds for the last 3 months. Until I found this site, I was not able to objectively rank-order the diamonds I was viewing. Thanks to all….

This is the diamond that has made it to the top of my list. I would like to get comments (one last sanity check) before I purchase this stone.

Price - $16,500
2.04 ct Round
polish-Very Good
symm-Very Good
proportions-Tolkowsky Ideal Cut
total depth – 61.4%
table width – 57%
crown height – 14%
pavilion depth – 43%
girdle – medium faceted
culet – none

Ideal-Scope – Medium to Excellent

Cert is EGL – is this an issue or concern?

Thanks in advance for your comments…


Dec 31, 1999

EGL is an issue for me and most of the experts I've seen post an opinion on the subject. In many cases, an EGL graded diamond is up to 2 color and clarity grades off of the way GIA or AGS would grade. I haven't looked up price comparisons for you, but you would want to know, I imagine, exactly what you are buying and paying for.

If you are really interested in an EGL graded diamond, you can ask the seller to send it to GIA or AGS for you. You can try to make the arrangement that, if the stone comes back graded exactly like the EGL report, you will pay the vendor's fee for the GIA cert. If it should come back with lower color and/or clarity grades, you will know what you are buying and may be able to negotiate on price if you still want the diamond.

Hope that helps you. :)


Mar 7, 2002
Here is a Hearts and Arrows diamond for $15838.94 that might be very good. Just see if you can get the Sarin report first to check the cut. It has been graded by AGS. There are quite a few diamonds greater than 2 carats with AGS and GIA reports for the same price or less.

Cut RB
Carat 2.15
Color H
Clarity SI1
Price $15838.94
Price per/Carat $ 7366.95
Depth % 62.1
Table % 57
Crown Angle
Pavilion %
Girdle 1.0-1.9
Culet P
Polish IDEAL
Symmetry IDEAL
Fluorescence NONE
Cert. Notes AGS-0? H&A


Feb 19, 2002
i looked at prices for you...
is that stone of your's from a b&m?
pricescope shows 2.04 H VS2 from $14596 to $19645, but those are all for GIA stones

I'd worry about the egl too, i know a ton of people say they are fine, but i had more than one friend get boned by an egl cert. you might be paying $16,5 for a J SI2.

have you actually seen this stone? and you're happy with it? it gets a good score on the HCA but with angles it might get a totally different should get your hands on the angle numbers.

do you absolutely positively have to make the 2.0 mark? something right under 2 will still look like 2.

how about these...
1.9 G SI1 superbcert (actually premium cut, doesn't have perfect H&A, but does have a fabulous brilliancescope) $13679 0.4ex HCA
7.93-7.98 x 4.93

2.01 H SI1 AGS0 from whiteflash 1.6ex HCA $14040 7.99-8.07X5.02

1.9 H VS1 AGS1(H&A) 0.5ex HCA $14615 8.04-8.07x4.9

2.061 H SI1 AGS0 8.26-8.29x5.01 0.6Ex HCA $15830
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