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mspaun3

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Hi Everyone!

I am in search of a ring so I can propose to my girlfriend on Christmas day.

There are a few things she has stated that she wants:
(1)Asscher Cut
(2)Halo
(3)Single Band
(4)Platinum

As far as budget goes, I would like to stay under $7k.

I want something nice and sizeable, but not gaudy. She is 5"2 and 100lbs. I think she wears a size 4. I would guess this would make the ring appear a little bigger?

This link below is the style of ring that she likes and fits all 4 of her criteria and is within my budget. My only concern is that the center stone is 0.73 Ct. Isn't that kinda small? Or do halo style rings have smaller center stones in general? Is this a decent deal?

http://www.kingofjewelry.com/jewelry/1-63-Ct-U-Setting-Asscher-Cut-Halo-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-I-VS1-EGL-43943.html


If you know of/can find any other rings that fit into the above 4 criteria, please share! Thanks so much!
 
Okay so... you are in LUCK!

I found this earlier for someone who ended up preferring a cushion I also found over it.
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1540722.asp Potentially fantastic asscher. Lovely steps and fabulous spread, could be a needle in a haystack stone.

The MAIN part of a diamond ring is the DIAMOND. You need to maximize your center stone quality. That means getting the best cut Asscher you can.

Put that one on hold immediately (just use the link on that page to contact them and they will do that for you). There is no obligation for a hold, and no cost. Also ask for an ASET image to evaluate light performance. It will take three days. Then post it here.

4,700 for the stone.
Leaves 2,300 for the platinum setting.

With this setting:
http://www.elizabetajewelry.com/products/beverley-k-diamond-engagement-ring-semi-mount-center-stone-not-included-number-9022-slash-65ac 2,300 in platinum (and Pearlman's, one of our best vendors, can order that for you and can send it to James Allen to set the stone in it).

This will be a full carat stone. In a platinum setting. And VERY HIGH quality.

You won't be able to find better for your budget.
 
Hi Gypsy,

First of all, thanks for the informative response! I went ahead and put that Asscher on hold. When comparing the specs of this Asscher diamond to others on Blue Nile, etc, this one appears to be a much better price. Can you give me some reassurance here? haha. They are sending me that ASET image, and I will post it when I receive it.

As far as the setting goes, I'm not sure if the GF would like the one you posted because of the designs on the side of the band. I think she likes a simpler band like on this one...

http://www.kingofjewelry.com/jewelry/1-91-Ct-U-Setting-Asscher-Cut-Halo-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-F-VVS1-GIA-43944.html

Do you have any other suggestions on settings? :bigsmile:

Thanks so much for your help!
 
.02cents is to go with Gypsy's option. She has picked out a beautiful asscher and a great setting which CAN be ready for your Xmas day proposal. The setting you like at King of Jewelry is a micro pave harry winston style halo. Very nice (I happen to have one for my round brilliant), however you are not going to find that ring, most likly, without having to have it custom made for an asscher. I'm not sure that will happen since you waited till 2 weeks before Xmas to even look at rings :eek:

My thoughts are you have three options.
1-Put the diamond in a place holder and let her pick her own setting. It is fun to shop with your SO and pick out something together.
2-Get the setting Gypsy linked too or something else that is close to that option as long as it can be done by Xmas
3-Push off your proposal till you can have the completed ring completely finished. For that particular setting I personally would have Engagmentringsdirect.com work on it as I think they do a beautiful and cost effective HW halo. If you are able to bump up on your buget you can come back and PS can recommend several pave masters who could also recreate the setting (think big bucks 4-6k).

And to answer your first question. No, halo rings don't have smaller centers. It is personal perferences so just like solitares have all different center sizes so do halos. Some PS members on her have .5ct haloed while others have 3+carats haloed. A halo can give more finger coverage or sometimes make the diamond appear a bit bigger, which makes it popular for those of us suffering from DSS.
 
OP - if you otherwise like the Beverly K setting that Gypsy linked to, I believe you can request that the sides *not* be engraved but left plain - and if you did so, the turnaround time for the ring would likely be shortened - and it is possible the price for the unengraved option might be less - worth checking with Pearlmans about, anyway.
 
You are definitely in LUCK that Gypsy spotted a potential beauty of an asscher cut stone recently. For fancies, it can take several weeks to find the right one. 2 weeks is really pushing it and you don't have time for a custom made setting like the one you linked to.
 
04diamond<3|1355208179|3328305 said:
What about this one?

http://www.jamesallen.com/engagement-rings/pave/14k-white-gold-pave-halo-shoulders-engagement-ring.html
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When you look at the "real" pictures of this setting (on the right hand side there are images of real versions of this) it's less than impressive. The Beverly K is going to be a much nicer look, both in quality and in proportions.


I AGREE that asking Pearlmans to order that setting WITHOUT engraving is a great idea. In fact I'd order without engraving OR milgrain.



mspaun please MAKE SURE YOU LOOK AT THE STONE MEASUREMENTS not carat weight when comparing size. Asscher dimensions can vary and do not correlate to size perfectly. A 1.2 ct stone can be smaller looking than a .99, for example. The G VS I posted faces up at over 6mm. I like the stones Julie posted as well.
 
mspaun3|1355206537|3328300 said:
As far as the setting goes, I'm not sure if the GF would like the one you posted because of the designs on the side of the band. I think she likes a simpler band like on this one...

http://www.kingofjewelry.com/jewelry/1-91-Ct-U-Setting-Asscher-Cut-Halo-Diamond-Engagement-Ring-F-VVS1-GIA-43944.html

Do you have any other suggestions on settings? :bigsmile:

Thanks so much for your help!
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The best solution, in budget, is to order the setting I posted, but without milgrain and engraving, IF you want platinum, that's going to be the best quality (and quality matters with pave).

I do have other suggestions, closer to the look your lady wants, but they aren't going to be in platinum for that budget. So either the budget needs to give or the metal choice.

The Ritani Endless Love was already posted, Pearlmans carries that too, and it 18kt it should be in budget.

These three Beverly K are also available through Pearlmans, and are much closer to the one your lady wants: http://www.beverleyk.com/semi-mounts/8wrtj005-a-d-d-m.htmlhttp://www.beverleyk.com/semi-mounts/mgc184-a-d-d-m.html and http://www.beverleyk.com/semi-mounts/mgc141-a-d-d-m.html I'm not sure that they would be in budget in platinum. But the 18kt should certainly be doable. (the ones that are rectangular can be made for a square at no extra charge).
 
Thanks for all of your responses. Some of those settings look nice, but it is so hard for me to picture them with a center stone in them.

I had a setback today. I got the following email from James Allen regarding the 1.15 Ct diamond that Gypsy suggested that I put on hold...

This is Garrett from over at JamesAllen.com and I hope that you are having a great day! I wanted to take this moment to reach out to you in regards to the diamond that we have on hold for you (diamond number: 1540722). Unfortunately, this diamond was located with one of our diamond partners and they notified us today that the diamond is no longer available. I apologize for this inconvenience. I did search for a replacement for that diamond using it as the foundation. I have found three diamonds that I would like to show you and see what your thoughts are on them.

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1533738.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VVS1-Very-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1521599.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-SI1-Very-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1542206.asp


Seems pretty fishy that they would allow me to put a diamond on hold when it really isn't theirs to hold. It doesn't seem like good business. Oh well. I think I'm going to stay away from the third one, as it is only a SI. Do any of you guys have thoughts on the first two?
 
They are owned by a diamond supplier and therefore hundreds of jewelers have access to the stones. So there is a delay between the time they are notified that a stone is sold by someone else and the time it gets taken off the website. It is still there now because I just looked at it when reading the thread! I'd go as large as you can because asschers face up small! I'd be looking at some H and I colors to try to get close to or over 6mm if possible.

Gypsy...fantastic finds on the BK halos that are not antique!!!
 
That's actually James Allen's business model. It's strange but allows them to offer a diamond online and also in person at their member stores.

Let's see what your options are. :wavey:

I like the .99 G (Julie posted it before and I liked it then too).

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/G-VVS1-Very-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1521599.asp So do this one.
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/H-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1542208.asp This one.
http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/F-VS2-Very-Good-Cut-Asscher-Diamond-1533738.asp And I guess this one. Not in love, but the pic is wonky enough that it could end up ASETing out well.

Let's try that. :wavey:
 
I also found this Gabriel and Co setting that I *think* can be set with prongs for an asscher. There is an asscher set in another ring in the princess section. You need closer to 6mm for this setting.

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7266W44JJ

At least it is another option since you are attempting a major rush job.
 
diamondseeker2006|1355264887|3328858 said:
I also found this Gabriel and Co setting that I *think* can be set with prongs for an asscher. There is an asscher set in another ring in the princess section. You need closer to 6mm for this setting.

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7266W44JJ

At least it is another option since you are attempting a major rush job.
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THANK YOU! I thought I was going around the bend. I was on there looking for a setting for this poster and COULD NOT find this one. They would need to change out the prongs for tab or regular prongs, but otherwise this setting would work.
 
Gypsy|1355265081|3328860 said:
diamondseeker2006|1355264887|3328858 said:
I also found this Gabriel and Co setting that I *think* can be set with prongs for an asscher. There is an asscher set in another ring in the princess section. You need closer to 6mm for this setting.

http://www.gabrielny.com/engaged/style/ER7266W44JJ

At least it is another option since you are attempting a major rush job.
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THANK YOU! I thought I was going around the bend. I was on there looking for a setting for this poster and COULD NOT find this one. They would need to change out the prongs for tab or regular prongs, but otherwise this setting would work.
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Welcome! You know I adore BK personally, but Gabriel has some good plain halos when we can just find them! :bigsmile:
 
Both myself and my GF's mom love the Ritani Endless Love. It's pretty amazing looking. I'm thinking that will be the one.

To go with it, I am thinking an Asscher around 1 ct or maybe just over 1 ct that measures around 6 x 6?
 
mspaun3|1355277003|3329046 said:
Both myself and my GF's mom love the Ritani Endless Love. It's pretty amazing looking. I'm thinking that will be the one.

To go with it, I am thinking an Asscher around 1 ct or maybe just over 1 ct that measures around 6 x 6?
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A Ritani is going to be half of your original budget. Are you saying that you are increasing your budget?
 
6x6 is going to be over budget too. Asschers are generally cut deep (on purpose) so you are looking at 5.5-5.8 usually. 6mm is rare (that's why that G VS2 was so awesome!).

If you want a 6mm you are usually looking at 1.2+.
 
Not to crack the whip, but do you know how hard it is to find an asscher that is .99 cts, EX/EX polish/symmetry, that has a lot of potential? At least put it on hold.
 
JulieN|1355277623|3329054 said:
mspaun3|1355277003|3329046 said:
Both myself and my GF's mom love the Ritani Endless Love. It's pretty amazing looking. I'm thinking that will be the one.

To go with it, I am thinking an Asscher around 1 ct or maybe just over 1 ct that measures around 6 x 6?
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A Ritani is going to be half of your original budget. Are you saying that you are increasing your budget?
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If he gets WG instead of Platinum it may be doable. Call Pearlmans and ask.
 
Gosh, I just looked and the price is not that much more for platinum. The Ritani site has it in platinum for $3860 and 18k white gold is only $470 less (not worth it, IMO). The only sad part to me is that he could get an ERD custom halo for that price. I think Pearlman's may give a discount on the setting, though, and that might bring it down closer to $3000. And I think Good Old Gold carries Ritani, too, and they may match Pearlman's price. You'd have to ask. I am just thinking the more of this that is in NY, the faster it might be.

So, mspaun, are you going to increase your budget? You really need to figure out the setting so you know how much you have to spend on the diamond. I think the Ritani setting is beautiful, but it is NOT the same style as the one you showed us that she liked. That is more the Harry Winston pave style whereas the Ritani has a metal edge around all the diamonds. The one she likes has the center stone prong set and the Ritani is bezel set. I personally think it is a mistake to veer off course from what she showed you that she likes.
 
Gypsy, I wonder if ERD could meet his deadline if he let Mark choose a couple of diamonds for him to choose from? He might make the setting with the short deadline if he could sell both, possibly.
 
I have a ritani setting for my pear and its a plain shank. i think Gypsy can attest, a plain shank halo asscher is beautiful ;)

that would help your budget too. But I dont jsut recommend it because its cheaper, also i think its more unique and makes the stone really pop
http://www.ritani.com/engagement-rings/bezel-set-halo-diamond-engagement-ring-in-platinum/4957

here are some pics of it in real life. That first asscher would put you at I think 7500
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-already-reset-9ct-ritani-halo-plain-shank-pear.181694/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-already-reset-9ct-ritani-halo-plain-shank-pear.181694/[/URL]
 
JulieN|1355277623|3329054 said:
mspaun3|1355277003|3329046 said:
Both myself and my GF's mom love the Ritani Endless Love. It's pretty amazing looking. I'm thinking that will be the one.

To go with it, I am thinking an Asscher around 1 ct or maybe just over 1 ct that measures around 6 x 6?
Click to expand...

A Ritani is going to be half of your original budget. Are you saying that you are increasing your budget?
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Yes, I am willing to increase a little bit haha!
 
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