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mointampa

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Hi
After lots of searching Ive finally narrowed it down to 2 diamonds...one thing to note is the bigger one is slightly outside my price range.

What I would like to know from you knowledgeable folk is which one do you think is better value - (best bang for buck)?

Number 1 - £6000
Shape and Cut: Round Brilliant
Carat weight: 1.34 Ct.
Color Grade: D
Clarity Grade: VS2
Cut: Premium
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry Excellent
Measurements: 7.20 - 7.17 x 4.30
Fluorescence: None
Total Depth: 59.8 %
Table Width: 59 %
Crown Height: 14 %
Pavillon Depth: 44 %
Girdle Thickness: Thin, Faceted

Number 2 - £7000
Shape and Cut: Round Brilliant
Carat weight: 1.49 Ct.
Color Grade: F
Clarity Grade: VS2
Cut: Ideal
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry Excellent
Measurements: 7.27 - 7.17 x 4.55
Fluorescence: None
Total Depth: 61.4 %
Table Width: 58 %
Crown Height: 17 %
Pavillon Depth: 43 %
Girdle Thickness: Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted


Thank you all in advance!
 

Lorelei

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Date: 3/3/2009 11:49:01 AM
Author:mointampa
Hi
After lots of searching Ive finally narrowed it down to 2 diamonds...one thing to note is the bigger one is slightly outside my price range.

What I would like to know from you knowledgeable folk is which one do you think is better value - (best bang for buck)?

Number 1 - £6000
Shape and Cut: Round Brilliant
Carat weight: 1.34 Ct.
Color Grade: D
Clarity Grade: VS2
Cut: Premium
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry Excellent
Measurements: 7.20 - 7.17 x 4.30
Fluorescence: None
Total Depth: 59.8 %
Table Width: 59 %
Crown Height: 14 %
Pavillon Depth: 44 %
Girdle Thickness: Thin, Faceted

Number 2 - £7000
Shape and Cut: Round Brilliant
Carat weight: 1.49 Ct.
Color Grade: F
Clarity Grade: VS2
Cut: Ideal
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry Excellent
Measurements: 7.27 - 7.17 x 4.55
Fluorescence: None
Total Depth: 61.4 %
Table Width: 58 %
Crown Height: 17 %
Pavillon Depth: 43 %
Girdle Thickness: Medium to Slightly Thick, Faceted


Thank you all in advance!
Welcome!

Which lab graded these diamonds, EGL? You can honestly do better than either of these, definitely pass on the first one, the cut isn't good.

The second is better but I believe can still be improved on. Also the so called Ideal cut grade is not, and these labels are no guarantee of a well cut diamond, especially if these descriptions are used by vendors.

Are you in the UK?
 

Lorelei

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Date: 3/3/2009 12:30:46 PM
Author: mointampa
also...correct EGL graded
Thanks! I don''t know if you are familiar with how the grading labs rank, EGL are said to be softer on grading in some circumstances than the two top tier labs GIA and AGS, this page explains further.

http://diamonds.pricescope.com/grading.asp

If you are new to this, it is important to know that it is cut quality which gives a diamond its beauty, so very important to concentrate on that. As you are in London, I would recommend you contact Dr Indira Marchant at -

www.bestdiamonds.co.uk if you are looking for a well cut and beautiful diamond. Indira is an expert and a very pleasant lady to deal with who also posts here.

Also if you would like, if you tell us exactly what you are looking for and your budget, maybe we could find some diamonds which might suit you as suggestions?
 

Maisie

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I second Lorelei''s suggestion that you call Dr Indira Marchant at Best Diamonds. I am working with her at the minute and she is wonderful. Such a lovely lady and very committed to finding the most perfect diamond for your budget.
 

mointampa

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OK so I took the advice and came up with 2 GIA gems (a bit more expensive!!):

Number 3: £7000
Carat weight: 1.39
Cut: Ideal
Colour: D
Clarity: SI1
Depth %: 61.8%
Table %: 56%
Symmetry: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Girdle: Thin to medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 7.20 x 7.16 x 4.44 mm


Number 4: £6000
Carat weight: 1.30
Cut: Ideal
Colour: F
Clarity: VS2
Depth %: 61.5%
Table %: 56%
Symmetry: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Girdle: Medium
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Very strong blue
Measurements: 7.06 x 7.03 x 4.33 mm

Please Help!
 

icekid

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They look good, so far. Can you tell us the crown and pavilion angles as well? Are you able to get photos?
 

mointampa

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no photos sorry..

The 1.3ct crown angle is 34 and pavilion 40.8

not sure about the 1.39...
 

mointampa

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there is also this one for £6500

Carat weight: 1.39
Cut: Ideal
Colour: F
Clarity: SI2 (eye clean)
Depth %: 61.6%
Table %: 56%
Symmetry: Excellent
Polish: Excellent
Girdle: Medium to slightly thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: None
Measurements: 7.20 x 7.16 x 4.42 mm
Crown angle 34.5
Pavillion angle 40.8
 

Lorelei

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First set of angles look good, as does the third diamond.
 

mointampa

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so i finally ordered...tell me Ive done the right thing please ! It has been verified as very eye clean by bluenile......

Price: £5,428
Carat weight: 1.55
Cut: Ideal
Colour: F
Clarity: SI2
Depth %: 61.7%
Table %: 54%
Symmetry: Very good
Polish: Excellent
Girdle: Thin to slightly thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Medium blue
Measurements: 7.42 x 7.45 x 4.59 mm
Crown angle: 35.0
Pavillion angle: 40.6

here is the cert
http://www.bluenile.co.uk/certs/2052/GIA16821310_zoom.jpeg
 

Lorelei

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Date: 3/5/2009 8:45:57 PM
Author: mointampa
so i finally ordered...tell me Ive done the right thing please ! It has been verified as very eye clean by bluenile......

Price: £5,428
Carat weight: 1.55
Cut: Ideal
Colour: F
Clarity: SI2
Depth %: 61.7%
Table %: 54%
Symmetry: Very good
Polish: Excellent
Girdle: Thin to slightly thick
Culet: None
Fluorescence: Medium blue
Measurements: 7.42 x 7.45 x 4.59 mm
Crown angle: 35.0
Pavillion angle: 40.6

here is the cert
http://www.bluenile.co.uk/certs/2052/GIA16821310_zoom.jpeg
Sounds good! Congrats!
 
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