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NARock

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So with the help of all you wonderful PSers I found a 2 carat RB diamond. I bought it on line and had planned on having a ring made to set it in locally. I took a picture of what I wanted in and wanted to tweek it a bit. I just received the cad(?) pictures of it and it isn''t exactly what I was thinking. And now I can''t find a link to the original inspiration ring. I originally found it on Solomon Brothers but now I can''t find it. It was a split shank with pave set diamonds and then between the shank were larger diamonds that went up smaller to larger. I probably should have bought it but I wanted a few things changed and I was going to see if they could use diamonds that I had in an anniversary band to make it. So now I have this beautiful center stone and I am feeling a bit lost about the ring to put it in. I thought having one designed would be a great option but I don''t think I am communicating very well.

I love the look of the pave split shank and I really want to find the original inspiration ring. I figured you were all so helpful with the diamond I would post and see if you had any suggestions about the ring also. And if you have any words of wisdom you could give me about having one made I would appreciate that as well. I don''t seem to be getting my ideas across. I hope I am posting this on the correct forum, if not please let me know.
 
Can you post your cad and tell us whats wrong with it?
 
One of the benefits of making things using the CAD approach is that the computer models can be changed fairly easily and that you can make multiple changes prior to committing to having the piece made. The person doing the design work should be able to sit down with you and a pencil and make hand sketches of whatever they think you are trying to have done. Doing this a couple of times should get you very close to what you want, provided that you actually know what you want. Sometimes we get ideas that are floating around that can''t be verbalized and that''s usually because those ideas haven''t really "gelled" yet. I''d post some images here and see if other peoples comments and images can nudge you into a more focused idea that may be easier to describe.
 
Like this? But with a round center stone? This is a tacori ring and I found the pic on their site?

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Thanks BigDiamondTinyGal. That is what I described but not the same ring.

I actually just searched again and found it. I want to post the inspiration rings that I had and then post the CAD. If you all could help me to know how to explain what changes I want or even if they are possible I could use all the help from the experts.

Here is the ring that speaks to me. The changes I wanted is that I didn''t like the prongs with the diamonds on them and I didn''t really like the side view with diamonds.

Inspiration 1 Ring.jpg
 
Side view.

Inspiration 2 Ring.jpg
 
And here is the one where I like the side view. But I would want the diamonds to be showing on the side up the shanks. Does that make sense?

Inspiration Ring 4.jpg
 
Here is the CAD. What I don''t really like is the huge prongs and the channel set look of the middle stones. I don''t really want to see a whole lot of gold on the ring just diamonds. I would also prefer that the diamond be set like the picture above. Can it be done this way?

Ring CAD1.jpg
 
CAD''s are about 15% heavier in metal than the finished product, so you need to account for that.

But that said, those CADs look pretty bulky to me. Have you seen this jewelery finished product? Do ou have faith in their abilities?

As to your questions, have you asked the jeweler?What did he or she say?
 
Do you have a side view of the cad?
 
I see the problem. Tell the CAD designer that you want the middle diamonds to be shared prong and not channel set. That will eliminate the metal 'walls' in the middle of the ring.

Also, it appears there is too much metal is around the center stone.
 
Date: 1/7/2010 9:22:23 PM
Author: NARock
And here is the one where I like the side view. But I would want the diamonds to be showing on the side up the shanks. Does that make sense?
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Do you want a peg head like this? I dont think this looks very custom. Why dont you have the head more incorporated into the
setting? I dont really like the side view of the first ring but I do like the fact that it looks like it is part of the ring and not a seperated
head added on like the second example ring you gave. (well, unless you plan on changing the size of the stone you will have in this
ring some day).
 
In order for the diamonds to be showing up from the side view, you don''t want bead set or channel set. You need to ask them to have the metal cut out around the diamonds, so they''re set shared prong, or mushroom pave, u cut, etc. See how in this picture you can see the diamonds from the side here? It''s because there are no metal borders.

petite open cathedral set.jpg
 

Ok this is why I am addicted to this site; you all give such good information! This is exactly what I need. Let me try to answer all your questions.


First I have never used this jeweler to create a custom ring. We have worked with the father before and we have bought some custom made jewelry from him but never created one from scratch. I like what we have gotten from him but this ring is far too bulky for my taste.


I do have a side view of the ring but unfortunately right now I can’t get it to upload, I will post it later.


I don’t know what a peg head is, but I may in the future change the center stone. Would that mean that I shouldn’t use a mount that is incorporated into the setting?


I love this White Flash picture, it is exactly what I want for the sides and I like the way the second row goes right up to the diamond. I even like that mounting better than the one I picked. Could my side split shanks go up to the diamond like that with the four prongs and then still have the middle diamonds part of the ring? I guess I just really want to make sure that the center stone sits above the ring itself and I have told the jeweler that.


Also, Laila619, you said that I should tell them to use a shared prong or a mushroom pave. The jeweler was steering me away from pave sets because he said that they are susceptible to loosing diamonds. He also suggested that a six prong would be a better option for a 2 carat but I think I like the look of a 4 prong better. Is a shared prong in the picture above a pave setting?


Thank You, Thank You, Thank You for all of your feedback. This is getting me excited again about creating this ring. Before I was feeling like I would never get it right.
 
Hi NARock,

Yes, the picture I posted above is shared prong/pave. Here's another WF setting, it's a split shank. It sounds like you want almost exactly this ring but with the bigger diamonds in the middle of the split shank. Just show your jeweler how the diamonds are set. Yes, there's always a risk of losing a stone but if it's a well-made ring, then it shouldn't happen very often if at all.

allegroWF-1.jpg
 
Date: 1/8/2010 1:06:58 PM
Author: Laila619
Hi NARock,

Yes, the picture I posted above is shared prong/pave. Here''s another WF setting, it''s a split shank. It sounds like you want almost exactly this ring but with the bigger diamonds in the middle of the split shank. Just show your jeweler how the diamonds are set. Yes, there''s always a risk of losing a stone but if it''s a well-made ring, then it shouldn''t happen very often if at all.
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Yes, yes...the above picture with the big diamonds in between the split shank would be lovely! The side view is beautiful! Nice find
Laila!
 
Laila619 you are wonderful!!!!
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That is perfect! Would you be able to post the link for that? Also, incase this doesn''t work with this jeweler does Whiteflash do custom rings? And is it ok to send a diamond you bought somewhere else to them for the setting? I have this beautiful diamond burning a hole in my pocket (I don''t really keep it in my pocket, lol) and I want to get a setting ASAP so I can start wearing it. And one other question, I was only going to have 3 larger diamonds on each side, where would you end them, at the top with the rest or right below. I am soooo excited now!!!!!
 
Girl, send your diamond to WF and get that setting! Why mess with custom when you know what you want? All WF requires to set your diamond is that it is insured. You can get a policy from Jewelers Mutual to cover the diamond during that process.
 
Hi dreamer_dachsie, Trust me, I have thought about that but then I wouldn''t have the diamonds between the shanks and I wouldn''t be able to incorporate my diamonds from my anniversary band. I think I am going to take these pictures to my jeweler and see what else he comes up with. If he can''t get any closer based on these pictures I probably will just buy an existing setting. I will try and post any new CADs I get. Thanks for all your advise I really appreciate it.
 
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