HELP, 2.13 cushion, what are your thoughts?

[nycm3656]

I just saw the following stone and am thinking of getting it. Just wanted to see what all of your thoughts were on it. The price seems good to me, the only thing bugging me is the medium fluorescence, should I be concerned about this?
Details:
Cushion Cut
Measurements: 8.77 x 7.33 x 4.83
Carat: 2.13
Color: F
Clarity: VS2
Depth: 65.9
Table: 59%
Girdle: Thin to Thick, Faceted
Culet: Small
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Good
Fluorescence: Med Blue
Comments: pinpoints are not shown

Thoughts!?

 

[Laila619]

Do you have any pics of the stone, or an ASET? From what I understand, medium blue fluor is usually not a problem at all. Have someone look at it outside in sunlight to make sure it doesn''t go hazy or cloudy though.

 

[nycm3656]

sorry, i do not have any pictures, i was in their store today looking at it. the jeweler was referred to me by FindMyJeweler.com.

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 10/29/2009 4:53:31 PM
Author: nycm3656
sorry, i do not have any pictures, i was in their store today looking at it. the jeweler was referred to me by FindMyJeweler.com.

We can't judge cushions by the numbers alone. Do you know what type of cushion you are looking for?
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ChunkyCushionLover's Guide To Buying Cushion Cut Diamonds

Step 1 (Choose The Type of Cut)

Decide the look of cushion you like best. (Watching the videos should help you the most with this.)

i) Cushion Modified Brilliant (often referred to negatively as the "crushed ice" variety as many in this category have only small flashes and were cut to save weght not to optimize light return),
a) 4 Pavillion main facets (several varieties)
b) 8 mains (several varieties) http://www.vimeo.com/3164922 Pictures and commentary here https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-shocking-final-diamond-choice-i-gave-to-my-fiance-which-one-would-you-pick.121154/
c) Square Brilliant (rare seen more in Belgium)
ii) Cushion Brilliant
a) 4 main like this one http://www.octonus.com/oct/projects/foxymovies/round_cushion2_office_fr.phtml or http://www.vimeo.com/2120607 (4 main is on the far left)
b) 8 main modern http://www.vimeo.com/2120607 (stone on the left)
c) 8 main antique or old mine brilliant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g708wEVYmJ4
d) 8 main old mine cut http://www.vimeo.com/5310842
iii) Square Cushion Hearts and Arrows http://www.vimeo.com/2120109
iv) Cushette http://www.vimeo.com/3164922

A helpful thread to see the plots and pictures of different types of cushions can be seen here https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/a-cushion-by-any-other-name.36001/ (keep in mind pictures aren't as useful as videos and can only be used reliably to understand facet structure not light performance)

Step 2 (Choose the 4Cs)

1) Post your budget, Color, Clarity, Carat Weight, LW(length to width) Ratio (do you like perfectly Square or Rectangular?) and cut preference. We will help find stones in your price range or tell you if your budget is realistic for the specs you have chosen or if you will have to make some tradeoffs. If you would rather go directly to the vendor at this point I suggest you speak to:

i) Mark at Engagementringsdirect.com
ii) Jon at Goodoldgold.com
iii) Bob at Whiteflash.com
iv) Brian at Briangavindiamonds.com

This list is limited to what I beleive are vendors who specialize in cushion cuts designed for light performance there may be others but I haven't had experiences with them. Some vendors like GOG and BGD have even developed their own cushion signature cut diamonds lines not available for sale by any other vendor. All of these vendors will be able to provide ASET images and pictures of stones to help you decide prior to purchase.

Example:

Budget: $10,000
Color: H and above
Clarity: SI1 and above (Anything Eyeclean from 6 feet away looking faceup)
Carat Weight: 1.3Ct+
Lw Ratio = 1 - 1.05 (I want square) or 1.1 - 1.3 (I want rectangular)
Cushion Brilliant (Modern) either 4 main or 8 main

Than we can help you narrow things down considerably.

Step 3 (View and Post ASET Image and Photographs and/or see in person)

Ask the vendor for a Video and/or ASET image (http://www.ideal-scope.com/1.using_ASET_scope.asp) of your possible choices and we can help you narrow down which of your selections we prefer and why.

Step 4 (View a side by side comparison at a vendor or appraisor for final selection)

If you are still not sure I would send your two or three favourite stones to a PS listed appraisor https://www.pricescope.com/appr_list.aspx close to you, where you can view your final choices in person prior to purchase you will just have to pay shipping. Many PS vendors will send stones to a trusted appraisor without you having to pay first and the appraisor will only release the stone to you only upon payment to and consent of the vendor.
For such an expensive purchase $100 in shipping and $100 in appraisor time seems well worth it to make the most informed choice possible.

Happy Hunting,

CCL

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/29/2009 3:38:03 PM
Author:nycm3656
I just saw the following stone and am thinking of getting it. Just wanted to see what all of your thoughts were on it. The price seems good to me, the only thing bugging me is the medium fluorescence, should I be concerned about this?
Details:
Cushion Cut
Measurements: 8.77 x 7.33 x 4.83
Carat: 2.13
Color: F
Clarity: VS2
Depth: 65.9
Table: 59%
Girdle: Thin to Thick, Faceted
Culet: Small
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Good
Fluorescence: Med Blue
Comments: pinpoints are not shown

Thoughts!?

Hi nycm

What type of grading report does this diamond have firstly - GIA?


No concerns with medium blue fluorescence. I don't see any flags with the proportions but images are needed such as an ASET image and detailed photographs if the stone is online, but as you have seen it in person is it the sort of cushion you are looking for and have you viewed many?

 

[nycm3656]

Date: 10/30/2009 8:46:33 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 10/29/2009 3:38:03 PM

Author:nycm3656

I just saw the following stone and am thinking of getting it. Just wanted to see what all of your thoughts were on it. The price seems good to me, the only thing bugging me is the medium fluorescence, should I be concerned about this?

Details:

Cushion Cut

Measurements: 8.77 x 7.33 x 4.83

Carat: 2.13

Color: F

Clarity: VS2

Depth: 65.9

Table: 59%

Girdle: Thin to Thick, Faceted

Culet: Small

Polish: Very Good

Symmetry: Good

Fluorescence: Med Blue

Comments: pinpoints are not shown


Thoughts!?

Hi nycm


What type of grading report does this diamond have firstly - GIA?



No concerns with medium blue fluorescence. I don''t see any flags with the proportions but images are needed such as an ASET image and detailed photographs if the stone is online, but as you have seen it in person is it the sort of cushion you are looking for and have you viewed many?

Hi Lorelei,
Thanks for your response. yes, the report is a GIA, I can send a link to it. Jeweler is sending me a Sarin report today and also sending me an image, will share both here when I receive it. Jeweler said that it does not go cloudy or hazy in sunlight, but I will look at that again when I go back.

Yes, it is the cut I am looking for, I have viewed many cushion cuts over the past two weeks, first from my family jeweler and then one that was referred to me by findmyjeweler.com. My family jeweler was quite expensive (surprising considering the money we have spent there), all of is IS graded cushions from D-F in the 2.0-2.23 carat range was over $22k. The price on the diamond I gave details for here was slightly over $21k, much more in line with Rap.

Will post details when I receive them!

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 10/30/2009 10:12:15 AM
Author: nycm3656

Date: 10/30/2009 8:46:33 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 10/29/2009 3:38:03 PM

Author:nycm3656

I just saw the following stone and am thinking of getting it. Just wanted to see what all of your thoughts were on it. The price seems good to me, the only thing bugging me is the medium fluorescence, should I be concerned about this?

Details:

Cushion Cut

Measurements: 8.77 x 7.33 x 4.83

Carat: 2.13

Color: F

Clarity: VS2

Depth: 65.9

Table: 59%

Girdle: Thin to Thick, Faceted

Culet: Small

Polish: Very Good

Symmetry: Good

Fluorescence: Med Blue

Comments: pinpoints are not shown


Thoughts!?

Hi nycm


What type of grading report does this diamond have firstly - GIA?



No concerns with medium blue fluorescence. I don''t see any flags with the proportions but images are needed such as an ASET image and detailed photographs if the stone is online, but as you have seen it in person is it the sort of cushion you are looking for and have you viewed many?

Hi Lorelei,
Thanks for your response. yes, the report is a GIA, I can send a link to it. Jeweler is sending me a Sarin report today and also sending me an image, will share both here when I receive it. Jeweler said that it does not go cloudy or hazy in sunlight, but I will look at that again when I go back.

Yes, it is the cut I am looking for, I have viewed many cushion cuts over the past two weeks, first from my family jeweler and then one that was referred to me by findmyjeweler.com. My family jeweler was quite expensive (surprising considering the money we have spent there), all of is IS graded cushions from D-F in the 2.0-2.23 carat range was over $22k. The price on the diamond I gave details for here was slightly over $21k, much more in line with Rap.

Will post details when I receive them!

If he is going to do a Sarin that is great but it would be even better if you got an ASET.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 10/30/2009 10:12:15 AM
Author: nycm3656

Date: 10/30/2009 8:46:33 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 10/29/2009 3:38:03 PM

Author:nycm3656

I just saw the following stone and am thinking of getting it. Just wanted to see what all of your thoughts were on it. The price seems good to me, the only thing bugging me is the medium fluorescence, should I be concerned about this?

Details:

Cushion Cut

Measurements: 8.77 x 7.33 x 4.83

Carat: 2.13

Color: F

Clarity: VS2

Depth: 65.9

Table: 59%

Girdle: Thin to Thick, Faceted

Culet: Small

Polish: Very Good

Symmetry: Good

Fluorescence: Med Blue

Comments: pinpoints are not shown


Thoughts!?

Hi nycm


What type of grading report does this diamond have firstly - GIA?



No concerns with medium blue fluorescence. I don''t see any flags with the proportions but images are needed such as an ASET image and detailed photographs if the stone is online, but as you have seen it in person is it the sort of cushion you are looking for and have you viewed many?

Hi Lorelei,
Thanks for your response. yes, the report is a GIA, I can send a link to it. Jeweler is sending me a Sarin report today and also sending me an image, will share both here when I receive it. Jeweler said that it does not go cloudy or hazy in sunlight, but I will look at that again when I go back.

Yes, it is the cut I am looking for, I have viewed many cushion cuts over the past two weeks, first from my family jeweler and then one that was referred to me by findmyjeweler.com. My family jeweler was quite expensive (surprising considering the money we have spent there), all of is IS graded cushions from D-F in the 2.0-2.23 carat range was over $22k. The price on the diamond I gave details for here was slightly over $21k, much more in line with Rap.

Will post details when I receive them!

That sounds fine, the image especially will be very useful so post what you have when the info comes through and we can go from there.

And you are most welcome!

 

[nycm3656]

Date: 10/30/2009 10:58:51 AM
Author: Lorelei

Date: 10/30/2009 10:12:15 AM

Author: nycm3656

Date: 10/30/2009 8:46:33 AM

Author: Lorelei

Date: 10/29/2009 3:38:03 PM


Author:nycm3656


I just saw the following stone and am thinking of getting it. Just wanted to see what all of your thoughts were on it. The price seems good to me, the only thing bugging me is the medium fluorescence, should I be concerned about this?


Details:


Cushion Cut


Measurements: 8.77 x 7.33 x 4.83


Carat: 2.13


Color: F


Clarity: VS2


Depth: 65.9


Table: 59%


Girdle: Thin to Thick, Faceted


Culet: Small


Polish: Very Good


Symmetry: Good


Fluorescence: Med Blue


Comments: pinpoints are not shown



Thoughts!?

Hi nycm



What type of grading report does this diamond have firstly - GIA?




No concerns with medium blue fluorescence. I don''t see any flags with the proportions but images are needed such as an ASET image and detailed photographs if the stone is online, but as you have seen it in person is it the sort of cushion you are looking for and have you viewed many?

Hi Lorelei,

Thanks for your response. yes, the report is a GIA, I can send a link to it. Jeweler is sending me a Sarin report today and also sending me an image, will share both here when I receive it. Jeweler said that it does not go cloudy or hazy in sunlight, but I will look at that again when I go back.


Yes, it is the cut I am looking for, I have viewed many cushion cuts over the past two weeks, first from my family jeweler and then one that was referred to me by findmyjeweler.com. My family jeweler was quite expensive (surprising considering the money we have spent there), all of is IS graded cushions from D-F in the 2.0-2.23 carat range was over $22k. The price on the diamond I gave details for here was slightly over $21k, much more in line with Rap.


Will post details when I receive them!

That sounds fine, the image especially will be very useful so post what you have when the info comes through and we can go from there.


And you are most welcome!

Hi everyone, thanks for your interest and feedback. Attached is an image of the diamond. Attached in my next post will be the the Sarin report. I have also requested the ASET. What do you think of this stone now given the GIA, Image and Sarin report?

GIA report, http://www2.gia.edu/reportcheck/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.showReportVerification&reportno=15252505&weight=2.13.

 

[nycm3656]

sarin page 2 report

 

[nycm3656]

sarin page 1 report