Heirloom 1ct + Diamond

[Fashionvictim]

Hello!

not sure if this should be in Rocky Talky or not.

My fiance and I are cleaning out his parents house as his parents recently passed away. In her jewelry box we found this ring, and he then gave it to me.

I took it to a jeweler on saturday and after testing it multiple times, he confirmed it is a real diamond. He hasn't ever seen this cut before(from looking around here for the past few years I knew right away it isn't a RB), but it is possible the ring belonged to my fiance's grandmother.

It is set in 14K gold, but I'm not a fan of the setting. The jeweler said it is most likely in the 1-2 ct range, but hard to tell given that it is a different cut.

My ring size is a 4, for reference. There are no visible inclusions and it is whiter than my J ER. I am in love with this ring and feel so blessed.

So my questions are:

- What cut/color do you all think it is(I know these are guesses). Keep in mind my photography skills are awful!
- What should I do for the setting? I was thinking of yellow gold since my er is white gold. Money is very limited for a re-set since I am purchasing my wedding band this spring and we are getting married in August.
- I don't want to make it a right hand ring, just a second ER since I am so in love. My DF doesn't want to sell my ER because of the sentimental value(and I love it as well!)

Can anyone help with the photo taking? I had it on macro outside, but it is still blurry!!


So, without further adieu....

 

[tyty333]

Unfortunately, we/I cant tell much from your photos.

See this thread for help on taking up close photos.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-to-take-good-photos-of-your-diamonds.102989/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/how-to-take-good-photos-of-your-diamonds.102989/[/URL]

 

[SweetAsscher]

I like the setting as is. And in one of the blurry pictures it kind of does look like an old cut diamond.
It's lovely and looks beautiful on your hand!

 

[Fashionvictim]

I'll work on better photos after I leave work. The facets are very chunky, I know that much.

 

[Enerchi]

It sure looks lovely on your hand, but maybe clearer/closer shots would be more helpful

How sweet that your FI gave you his grandmother's ring - wear it in good health and happiness!

 

[Amys Bling]

it may be an OEC

 

[Dreamer_D]

I think you need a better jeweler Try another place. At the very least, a good jeweler can easily estimate carat weight based on the width and depth, you don't have to know the cut type.

 

[Amys Bling]

I think you need a better jeweler Try another place. At the very least, a good jeweler can easily estimate carat weight based on the width and depth, you don't have to know the cut type.

Haha- yea is question the jewelers knowledge of diamonds if his estimate for that stone is 1-2 cts... Lol. Seems like quite a span

 

[minousbijoux]

You have a very generous fiance.

 

[Kalrik]

What a lovely thing to find when doing something like that. Congrats on your new ring. It looks very beautiful and quite white.

 

[madelise]

i just searched through your old threads to find a pic of your e-ring.. how lucky you are to get a diamond for your newfound 2nd e-ring! just like how you guys were planning to anyway! please post better pictures for us to ogle over!


***i'm sorry to hear of his loss, however.. a loss of a single parent is devastating enough.. 2? my condolences..

 

[Fashionvictim]

I went to the jeweler just to see if the stone is real, I'm going to an expert for the appraisal. I do realize it is a big span.

I'm going to try and get better pics today.

 

[Fashionvictim]

I think you need a better jeweler Try another place. At the very least, a good jeweler can easily estimate carat weight based on the width and depth, you don't have to know the cut type.

Haha- yea is question the jewelers knowledge of diamonds if his estimate for that stone is 1-2 cts... Lol. Seems like quite a span

Yes, but please do not laugh at me, I am not experienced in diamonds and haven't even chosen an appraiser yet. I'm simply gathering information at this point.

 

[slg47]

do you have a macro setting on your camera? it can also help to place the ring in a safe place and then take pictures so you don't have to hold the ring and the camera at the same time. please update us with what the appraiser says, although, most jewelers should be able to measure the diameter with calipers?

 

[JuneRose]

I think you need a better jeweler Try another place. At the very least, a good jeweler can easily estimate carat weight based on the width and depth, you don't have to know the cut type.

Haha- yea is question the jewelers knowledge of diamonds if his estimate for that stone is 1-2 cts... Lol. Seems like quite a span

Yes, but please do not laugh at me, I am not experienced in diamonds and haven't even chosen an appraiser yet. I'm simply gathering information at this point.

Amy wasn't laughing at you -just surprised at the jeweler's lack of knowledge. I would love to see some better photos too, looks like it could be an OEC which would be great!

 

[Dreamer_D]

I think you need a better jeweler Try another place. At the very least, a good jeweler can easily estimate carat weight based on the width and depth, you don't have to know the cut type.

Haha- yea is question the jewelers knowledge of diamonds if his estimate for that stone is 1-2 cts... Lol. Seems like quite a span

Yes, but please do not laugh at me, I am not experienced in diamonds and haven't even chosen an appraiser yet. I'm simply gathering information at this point.

No one is laughing at you, we are chuckling at the jeweler! Someone in the trade should be able to do better IMO.

 

[Fashionvictim]

Whew! Glad to know you aren't laughing at me, lol.

I made an appointment with a local appraiser who I found on this website, so after Saturday we'll know the stats! My DF had no idea this even existed, how lucky are we to find it.

Okay, I hope these photos are a little better. I took some with my ER, which has a .71 center stone, for reference. Please excuse my extremely dry hands.

 

[Amys Bling]

I think you need a better jeweler Try another place. At the very least, a good jeweler can easily estimate carat weight based on the width and depth, you don't have to know the cut type.

Haha- yea is question the jewelers knowledge of diamonds if his estimate for that stone is 1-2 cts... Lol. Seems like quite a span

Yes, but please do not laugh at me, I am not experienced in diamonds and haven't even chosen an appraiser yet. I'm simply gathering information at this point.

Amy wasn't laughing at you -just surprised at the jeweler's lack of knowledge. I would love to see some better photos too, looks like it could be an OEC which would be great!

thank you or clarifying in my absence! No not laughing at you at all!!! Your jeweler made me laugh

 

[Amys Bling]

I think you need a better jeweler Try another place. At the very least, a good jeweler can easily estimate carat weight based on the width and depth, you don't have to know the cut type.

Haha- yea is question the jewelers knowledge of diamonds if his estimate for that stone is 1-2 cts... Lol. Seems like quite a span

Yes, but please do not laugh at me, I am not experienced in diamonds and haven't even chosen an appraiser yet. I'm simply gathering information at this point.

No one is laughing at you, we are chuckling at the jeweler! Someone in the trade should be able to do better IMO.

thanks for clarifying dreamer!

 

[Amys Bling]

Whew! Glad to know you aren't laughing at me, lol.

I made an appointment with a local appraiser who I found on this website, so after Saturday we'll know the stats! My DF had no idea this even existed, how lucky are we to find it.

Okay, I hope these photos are a little better. I took some with my ER, which has a .71 center stone, for reference. Please excuse my extremely dry hands.

it's a beauty for sure- I wouldn't be surprises if it was a good 1.5 cts!

 

[Fashionvictim]

Any ideas? I think maybe an OEC?

 

[Dreamer_D]

Cann you post a profile shot? Your pictures are not clear enough to see the faceting. Can you see an open culet?

It looks like it could be an early modern brilliant or perhaps a transitional/later european cut. Hard to say for sure but the table looks small and the kite facets large making me think if older cuts. But your pictures are still a little too fuzzy

As to carat weight I am guessing at least 1.2, but maybe 1.5+ from the size difference!

 

[fridays_child]

What a neat story, sorry your fiance's folks passed, that was really sweet of him to give you the ring. As for resetting it, if you live with the current setting for a while, and you might have a better idea of what you'd like for the reset.

It's hard to tell from your pictures, but it *looks* like the stone has a large culet? That would be one point in favor of it being an oec. I'd agree with Amy, it looks somewhere arond 1.5 ct. I would think a 2ct stone would look bigger on your small, size 4 finger. If you have a ruler you can measure the stone's width in millimeters and look for a mm to carat table for round stones, that's give you a very rough estimate of the weight.

Can you try taking more pictures? You can try this: Turn off the camera flash and take a picture near some windows during the day so the lighting is bright. Put the camera on a flat surface like a table and set the ring down on the table as well. If you can adjust the focus sensor sensor on your camera so that the "dot" rests right on top of the stone, that should put the focus plane in the right place. Press the shutter release (while your camera and stone are still on the table) to minimize blurriness from hand-holding movement.

Or, just wait until you hear from the appraiser on Saturday

 

[Kitten35]

I'm not very well versed in diamond cuts or anything but to me it looks kind of like my mom's OEC. In one of the photos it looks like you can see the open (cutlet?) space at the bottom. Isn't that indicative of OECs? Love that setting. I think I'd just have it cleaned up, prongs checked, etc. not reset.

 

[Christina...]

It's a very pretty and special ring! I don't think that I would change anything about it either!

 

[Fashionvictim]

I'm pretty obsessed with rose gold, I'm thinking of setting it in that. however, finding rose gold solitares isn't the easy thing to do.

 

[Amys Bling]

rose gold would be divine

 

[Fashionvictim]

Thanks to Jeff at Metro Jewelry Appraisers in Massachusetts!


1.00 ct
Old European Cut (he said it has some characteristics of an omc as well)
Color: J
Clarity: SI2
Depth: 64.7%
Table: 45%
Girdle: Thin to medium, faceted
Culet: large, open.

He thinks it could be from the 1920's.


I'll post the photos he took tomorrow.

 

[Amys Bling]

Thanks to Jeff at Metro Jewelry Appraisers in Massachusetts!


1.00 ct
Old European Cut (he said it has some characteristics of an omc as well)
Color: J
Clarity: SI2
Depth: 64.7%
Table: 45%
Girdle: Thin to medium, faceted
Culet: large, open.

He thinks it could be from the 1920's.


I'll post the photos he took tomorrow.

oo very nice!! Do you know the dimensions? Definitely looks bigger than 1ct!!! Can't wait for more pics and to See what you do with it

 

[Tuckins1]

It looks like it could be an OEC... I personally love the setting! Congrats on the great find, I can't wait to see what comes from the appraiser!