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Morgie44

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I am recently engaged with a stone and setting that my fiance and I chose together. The stone is an uncertified stone that we had appraised. It came back as an H color with G color pave in the setting. While in the store the stone seemed to match the sidestones in color almost exactly, but since I have received the ring and worn it in different settings, times of day, sometimes the center stone looks very colored compared to the sidestones. To the point where one person asked me if it was a colored stone. This has left me upset ( not the questions but the fact that the stone is so yellow looking) as color was very important to me during the search and I am wondering if this is normal of an H color stone?
 
That is not normal for a well cut H stone. Did you get it appraised by an independent appraiser, one with no ties to a jewellery store or the place you bought the ring? You need to do that to get an unbiased opinion. Based on that report, you can look into returning the ring, getting a refund, upgrading the stone, whichever suits you.
 
It was an appraiser at a different store than the purchase was made at. I just spoke with the store and we have 30 days to make an exchange so I think that we will exercise that option.
 
Many larger diamonds look darker than their smaller counterparts even when the same GIA color grade. The thicker the material, the more light is absorbed and unlike any other product, diamonds are artificially adjusted up in color grade as size increases.

When you look at the side of a colorless, glass topped coffee table you''ll see deep green. Obviously, the glass is one color, but when light passes the longest way, it is a looks a lot darker a color to the eyes.

Combining a large center diamond with small side diamonds, even of identical GIA color, can potentially set you up for a visible contrasting color situation. Fancy shapes often have more zonal intensification of color than rounds, making matters even more visbily problematic.

Of course, what you see in close examination, is far from what casual observers who get a glance at your ring probably will see. They will see how pretty it is, how it sparkles and how happy you appear to be about getting it. If you don''t transmit your dissappointment to them, they probably would never think you saw anything wrong at all. In truth, I have seen very few rings where the color difference of center to sides made me at all upset or disturbed. You just may get used to the way it looks in a few days and find you really like it.
 
Date: 12/31/2007 9:58:06 AM
Author: Morgie44
It was an appraiser at a different store than the purchase was made at. I just spoke with the store and we have 30 days to make an exchange so I think that we will exercise that option.
I think that''s a good idea.
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And I would suggest sticking to stones that have been graded, and by GIA or AGS, which should prove much safer for you. Good luck!
 
Date: 12/31/2007 10:04:55 AM
Author: oldminer
Many larger diamonds look darker than their smaller counterparts even when the same GIA color grade. The thicker the material, the more light is absorbed and unlike any other product, diamonds are artificially adjusted up in color grade as size increases.

When you look at the side of a colorless, glass topped coffee table you'll see deep green. Obviously, the glass is one color, but when light passes the longest way, it is a looks a lot darker a color to the eyes.

Combining a large center diamond with small side diamonds, even of identical GIA color, can potentially set you up for a visible contrasting color situation. Fancy shapes often have more zonal intensification of color than rounds, making matters even more visbily problematic.

Of course, what you see in close examination, is far from what casual observers who get a glance at your ring probably will see. They will see how pretty it is, how it sparkles and how happy you appear to be about getting it. If you don't transmit your dissappointment to them, they probably would never think you saw anything wrong at all. In truth, I have seen very few rings where the color difference of center to sides made me at all upset or disturbed. You just may get used to the way it looks in a few days and find you really like it.
Dave, it is interesting you say this. I have seen so many on here with large stones w/halos, where the stones are different grades, yet I don't recall anyone having this problem....

And we're talking some pretty picky people here.
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The visual difference is very dependent on the way the diamonds are cut, the color of the surrounding metal and the room lighting. Most people are far less able to discern slight color variation than they believe. I know we have many "picky" people looking intently on their jewelry, but not each one sees the same as the next. I can't deny that when someone sees something, it is very real to them, yet many people fail to see even the relatively obvious.

Once a person sees a problem, they tend to center on it above other attributes. It is in our human nature, I suppose. If a consumer has a color matching problem, no one, expert or novice, can tell them they are incorrect. It is a problem that either they correct, or learn to live with. Better yet, they recognize that it may be no problem for anyone but themselves. It is always a challenge to learn to live happily.
 
Date: 12/31/2007 10:21:04 AM
Author: oldminer
The visual difference is very dependent on the way the diamonds are cut, the color of the surrounding metal and the room lighting. Most people are far less able to discern slight color variation than they believe. I know we have many ''picky'' people looking intently on their jewelry, but not each one sees the same as the next. I can''t deny that when someone sees something, it is very real to them, yet many people fail to see even the relatively obvious.

Once a person sees a problem, they tend to center on it above other attributes. It is in our human nature, I suppose. If a consumer has a color matching problem, no one, expert or novice, can tell them they are incorrect. It is a problem that either they correct, or learn to live with. Better yet, they recognize that it may be no problem for anyone but themselves. It is always a challenge to learn to live happily.
True enough.

I guess I''m just thinking the "uncertified" stone here may be more of the problem than scrutenizing eyes. But, as you say, whatever it is, doesn''t really matter in the end, only that she is not happy.
 
I think it is probably a combination of the stone not being certified magnifying the small(er) color difference that I do notice. I noticed it pretty much off the bat ( I have had the ring for a week now) and while I manage to convince myself that it is white during the day, at night during lower light times all I can see is yellow, which leaves me disappointed. My fiance and I will be looking at only certified stones when we exchange this one to avoid any further disappointment.

Thanks for all the help!
 
If you had it appraised while in the setting, the color may not actually be an H. I have an H round cut, though, and I notice there''s one room in my house where my stone seems sort of brownish. Distressingly so. But then I noticed that, so do my smallish F earrings. And my G stone band. In every other light, I notice no color. Diamonds are like mirrors, they reflect what''s around them (the brown room is, in fact, actually a very small brown-painted room with a single incandescent light). You''d most notice the body color from the side, where the light is not reflecting back at you - do you notice this color only from the top? from the side? from the side in different lights?
 
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