Good cut and lower diamond colour

[DiamondBaby]

Hi,
This isn't really an advice on buying question, but an improve my knowledge question!

My e-ring is a G colour, I can't find the cert, so I don't have the rest of the details. In most lights it's fine, no colour at all, but under certain conditions I can see colour in it. I think its one of the things I am sensitive about, it doesn't bother me per say, but it bothers me enough that I don't know if I could go lower in colour.

I have seen rings here of all colours, and some incredible ones in the I-J range. Googling diamonds of that colour, and I can see the yellow tint in the photos, but I can't see it in many of the diamonds here. Does a good cut remove or not make noticeable some of the colour? I can see the advantages in going down in colour for a bigger diamond, and there are some fab examples here in the I/J range, but I can't get the "I'll see yellow colour" bit out of my head if I was to go looking at them myself.

Thanks a mil!

 

[sledge]

So a few things come to mind:

• What lab certified the color in your stone? Some labs are known to be more lenient than others.
• Is your stone a super ideal? Many times they tend to face up larger & whiter than those that aren't.
• Are you color sensitive in other areas?
• What kind of overhead lighting and background colors are present when you see the "yellowish tint"?

This is a pretty good write up on color. It's written for HPD/CBI stones and while I wouldn't dare to directly compare or state an ACA or BGD super ideal would be identical, it's my opinion that all super ideals would follow this same mentality. The question becomes would other super ideals exhibit the same, better or worse results.

https://www.hpdiamonds.com/en-us/education/education-color

 

[HappyNewLife]

I think a lot of photos here of I/J/K diamonds look white here because they're mostly taken from the top-down view. Also, in my case anyway, if my diamond doesn't look good in a photo because of a reflection (like from a phone case or a brown wall), I don't post it. You see the "best of the best" photos here, you know? But yes, IMO ideal cut diamonds do look whiter.

That said, if you can see tint in a G (is it GIA?), you probably shouldn't go down in color in order to gain size

 

[nala]

It sounds like you are color sensitive. I have had a variety of stones. Most have been GIA I and only one has had an almost ideal cut—my current one. My previous one definitely showed more tint than this one. It scored a 5.6 hca. I think the better cut returns more light, so it appears not as tinted. I dream about a G color. Don’t think I’d see tint in that. Unless I paired it next to a D. Back to my I. What I realize about it is that I love rose gold but pairing my ering with a rose gold band or even a sapphire or ruby band, makes my stone look tinted. Hope this helps.

 

[DiamondBaby]

@sledge @HappyNewLife from what I remember it was HRD Antwerp, as for the cut, I can’t remember, 13 years ago I think the cert is in one of many boxes (we moved house and I found it after we moved and put it away for “safe keeping)
I don’t think I am color sensitive in other areas.
I see the color in bright direct sunlight. Average daylight and interior light is fine, no fluorescence in the stone.

I have just got Whiteflash G Si .8ctw earrings, and I couldn’t see tint in them.
@nala my Jewellery has always been silver/white gold/platinum. I never wear yellow or rose gold, It never looked good on me.

 

[John P]

Just a note that this cuts both ways (pun intended).

For diamonds cut so that light entering the crown returns on short, efficient ray-paths there can be less apparent body color seen face-up than what was seen by the grader when it was face-down, viewed through the side.

The converse is also true. Diamonds cut with inefficient angles where rays pass through or bounce around a bunch in the stone can serve to illuminate and exaggerate whatever body color is present. So two diamonds with identical H color from the side could seem many grades apart face-up if one has spectacular light-return efficiency while the other has severe body-color entrapment and/or windowing.

That's why the proportions-goals of fancy colored diamond producers are much different than ours. Their entire goal is to trap, illuminate and exaggerate whatever body color is present in the face-up view: FCD's are graded face-up.