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Nice pix EL1. My daughter also has a Tacori setting and we''ve found their work (and how they stand behind the product) to be amazing. Two main reasons we took them on.
 
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Ugh...I hate resizing. Hopefully this works and imagine with a cushion instead... Oh, and thanks, Jon!

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Do you see what I mean about the halo being smaller than the band. It''s about half the size. Most halo''s wind up being almost the same size as the band as another poster was suggesting earlier. This is the most delicate halo I''ve seen. The band on the other hand is beautiful but I''ve seen thinner.
 
I see exactly what you mean. It''s hard to tell from the pics but how noticeable is the halo? I really like the diamond that I''ve picked out but I just want to make sure it''s big enough. There''s a 1.63 carat that I can get but the color is L. I''ve read that this difference in color will be noticeable with the halo and diamonds on the band.
 
Date: 7/28/2009 2:08:48 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
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Date: 7/28/2009 3:37:33 AM

Author: ChunkyCushionLover


Date: 7/27/2009 9:34:53 PM


Author: diamondtiger


Is 1.07 CT going to be big enough? Her ring size is 4.5 and I want to be sure that it doesn''t look small. I know that''s probably a question is relative to each individual but your input/experience is appreciated.
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Diamondtiger,



I struggle with the same issue here https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-shocking-final-diamond-choice-i-gave-to-my-fiance-which-one-would-you-pick.121154/.


A 1 carat diamond is still much larger than the average stone sold in North America and on a small finger is just fine.



However if you ask most women they are going to like bigger and these OMCs definitely look smaller than a round for the same carat weight.


I should point out that I felt that in only a 1 carat it is more difficult except up close to see how wonderful the facet pattern is on these stones.



Its easy to see in a blowup video or picture but in real life its a little more difficult. You should see it in real life for yourself.


But the question you have to ask yourself is are you willing to pay a lot more or go down in color to get bigger? The cut is not making the diamond look appreciably smaller.
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Hey CCL,


I can''t speak for everyone that owns one of these new OMC''s, but I do have to say I disagree with some parts of your post based on my own experience.


My 1ct OMC on the hand I can easily see/appreciate the facet pattern both up close and

from arm''s distance.


Also, having owned a round ideal cut, I was also surprised for a fancy just how decent the face up size/spread was. I''m not saying it will look exactly the same as a H&A round of same weight, but I doubt there is much in it..


I can understand though in your case, going from only viewing photos/videos to seeing the real thing in real life, how you might get that impression about the ''small'' facets/size.

But this will be the case with any diamond shape you choose - after all they are very tiny things in real life!
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I agree totally with what you said. After all as a proportion to the total size of the stone those mirrors under the tables are as big as any facet you will see in any brilliant cut diamond! However when looking at the blowups of your ring I was expecting something more dramatic in real life that would make this 1ct stone look bigger that didn''t really happen.


I gave you an actual size difference between your round and your OMC about 25% less but the square shape does psychologically make it look bigger which is a good thing. It is an unfair comparison to compare OMCs to Rounds they are 15 - 35% cheaper for the same carat weight.
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Hi again CCL,
yup I can see how the photos etc can give folks false expectations. I usually try to include at least a couple "arm''s length" shots for perspective in my threads for this reason.
Also, let''s remember I did go from a 1.25ct to a 1.08ct, so I''m no mathematician
but a 25% less surface area seems just about right
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And ditto about the cheaper aspect, big plus!
 
Date: 7/28/2009 10:00:20 PM
Author: diamondtiger
I see exactly what you mean. It''s hard to tell from the pics but how noticeable is the halo? I really like the diamond that I''ve picked out but I just want to make sure it''s big enough. There''s a 1.63 carat that I can get but the color is L. I''ve read that this difference in color will be noticeable with the halo and diamonds on the band.
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Diamondtiger,

I like the 0.5 pointers for that emereld cut as you really don''t want to overpower the less bright step cut. But for cushions, princesses, and rounds I find half pointers in the halo are too small and they may make the ring look cheap.
You can get mark at ERD or WF to do your ring for cheaper than the tacori and you get to cusomize it the way you like it. Please do yourself a favour though and look at things in real life as its the only way you will really be sure.

Go see cushion cut 1 carat stones just for the outline of the stone. Go look at halo rings and judge the melee size. A 6mm princess with 1mm halo will give you an excellent idea of the spread on the finger if you can''t find a cushion halo.

With regards to the stone, the one you reserved has a smaller culet than the 1.15 H and is a higher colour. Also the H stone is not as deep so it will look a little bigger than just its carat weight. You will get an extra 0.35mm in width over your G coloured stone.

The H one I saw in person is almost a perfect square, the one you reserved is slightly rectangular. If you like large culets than I would say go for the H as you will be getting a larger stone. I liked the perfect square and the maltese cross is the most symmetrical and well defined in the H as I have seen in any of these stones. That being said if you prefer a smaller culet you should stay with the one you reserved.
You could always send them both to an appraisor and choose.
 
Date: 7/28/2009 10:00:20 PM
Author: diamondtiger
I see exactly what you mean. It''s hard to tell from the pics but how noticeable is the halo? I really like the diamond that I''ve picked out but I just want to make sure it''s big enough. There''s a 1.63 carat that I can get but the color is L. I''ve read that this difference in color will be noticeable with the halo and diamonds on the band.
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I think what CCL is missing here is the fact that your girlfriend loves the Tacori setting. Isn''t that what you want? She didn''t come to you and say, I want the Harry Winston style pave setting which I assure you is different. Even so...contray to what CCL believes, there are better designers for the HW style than ERD and WF. I totally dissagree with the statement that .5 on a 1ct stone make the ring look cheap. And CCL, there a few posters here with this setting that have 1ct RBs. You might want to watch what you say. Oh and thanks for calling my diamond, "less bright" and what does a step cut have to do with the size of the mele?

Do a search up top for 2620, there are a few posters here that have that setting for a RB which my look closer to the cushion. You will see. It depends on what you want. This halo adds a little something extra and yeah, a few mm but its not like the 3-4mm that most halos add. It''s likley more like 2 extra and its set slightly under the stone. In my opinion its classy without being over done.

If I were you, I would get her the setting that she wants. The stone is up to you and what you feel comfortable with. I''m sure both are gorgeous! 4.5 is a small finger and the setting will make it look bigger. Don''t worry!

 
Date: 7/28/2009 10:02:43 PM
Author: diamondtiger
There are also these 2 ...

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Ok, I''m not an expert on cushions and from your posts above it seems that your girlfriend perfers the more square proportioned stones so I''d stick with what you have. My alternate choice would be the H but that is based on personal preference.
 
Date: 7/29/2009 8:11:11 AM
Author: emeraldlover1


If I were you, I would get her the setting that she wants. The stone is up to you and what you feel comfortable with. I'm sure both are gorgeous! 4.5 is a small finger and the setting will make it look bigger. Don't worry!

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Ditto. If she has always loved this setting, I have a feeling she may be very disappointed if you give her something else. And in my opinion, smaller melee just gives a more "delicate" look, not cheap.
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As for the stones, the H looks great too, and is very square. It will give you a bit more spread, but again, she's got little fingers, so either would work very well. If you can't decide, have Jon do a video of the G and H together.
 
I agree, smaller melee in the halo does not make the ring look cheap. I have a cushion halo from Saturn and the melee is about the same size as tacori, maybe a bit larger and it enhances the stone without overpowering it as I''ve seen with some of the other halos. If you search my name you should be able to find pics.
 
So I prodded around with her some more last night ... I wanted to find out what was most important to her of the 4 C's. Specifically, I wanted to find out how important size (of the diamond!
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) was to her. Interestingly enough, color and clarity were at the top with carat being last. I mentioned that you could either get a clearer, albeit smaller, diamond or a larger, warmer/yellower diamond. She said that she'd rather have a smaller diamond with better color and clarity. She thought that a diamond lower in color was "cheap." She mentioned wanting something where the inperfections/inclusions were not visible to the nake eye. So I guess that helps with the lower color diamonds that I posted last night ...

So it's all settled, right? Not quite. I was talking to the Tacori people and they suggested that a round looks better in that setting than a cushion. She even said that once in the setting, a round actually looks like a cushion. Is this true? Anyone have any experience with this??
 
I don''t work for Tacori so I don''t know what they can and can not do but look at the other threads of people that have rounds in that setting. I think it does look a little more cushiony but I suspect that is because the halo goes around the double prongs on this setting. However, I''m sure it would look fantastic with a cushion. I''m not sure how one could say that a round looks better in that setting vs. a cushion considering that would be like me saying a emerald looks better than a princess. Isn''t that personal perception? If they were saying it is a design issue than I''d consider something else but that statement just sounds like personal preference. You are working with GOG, right? They are a Tacori dealer...what do they think?

On the stone front...it looks like you made a good decision with the stone. However, the H you have referenced will barley show any color if at all. I wouldn''t consider warmer colors "cheap" either.
 
I think that late night post was written BADLY at 3am so I am going try again.

1) DT you have mentioned price as a factor (the HW being expensive) if it isn't than the 2620 or Leon Mege or Ritani Endless love are all nice options. Just make sure your GF has seen the ring in person and is not basing her preference on close up shots in a women's magazine or here as the proportions of the halo to centre in blowups can be misleading.

2) I doubt your cushion would ever be confused with a round due to its faceting arrangement and shape. The stone's girdle sits slightly higher than the halo in the 2620 and the appearance from above will be a little more round because that is the outline of halo no matter what stone you put into it. A custom HW halo could be made to mimic the shape of the stone exactly if that is important to you.

3) The convenience factor of having GOG set your stone for you and have it insured the entire time may be something worth considering. These OMCs have thin girdles and in the case of the H one it is very thin so its safer to be insured by the original vendor.

3) I don't know what color melee Tacori uses or whether you can customize it but you are safest going with the G colour if you going with Tacori and want to match the centre. You can use F/G or G/H melee and it will look nice, many designers prefer to go up one color grade to draw colour to the centre but that is a matter of preference.

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CCL...

Tacori uses G mele and they do not gaurentee their setting if someone else sets the stone. The turn around time for Tacori is about the same as the other designers. The rings are also custom made to fit the size of the center stone so I wouldn''t worry about that.

I agree looking at them in person is a good idea but he is trying to surprise her. She said that''s what she wants.
 
Nice job with the picture CCL !! I like it!!
 
Date: 7/29/2009 2:06:50 PM
Author: emeraldlover1
I agree looking at them in person is a good idea but he is trying to surprise her. She said that''s what she wants.
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Yeah she''s seen the 2620 in person. She was actually attracted to it after seeing it in one of their ads and then still liked it after trying it on in the store.
 
I think you have your answer then!
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Date: 7/29/2009 5:41:31 PM
Author: emeraldlover1
I think you have your answer then!
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Ditto. Go with the G in the Tacori.
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I don''t think of H as "low" in color, but she might. And she may think what she does for the same reason many of us did, before we found this place. That''s just what we''ve all been told, that high color and clarity made the best diamonds. So maybe after the ring, and before any other diamond presents/purchases, you could show her this sight, and the tutorials, videos, etc., and she might change her mind, or not! (and that''s why I''d stick with the G)
 
Date: 7/29/2009 2:06:50 PM
Author: emeraldlover1
CCL...

Tacori uses G mele and they do not gaurentee their setting if someone else sets the stone. The turn around time for Tacori is about the same as the other designers. The rings are also custom made to fit the size of the center stone so I wouldn''t worry about that.

I agree looking at them in person is a good idea but he is trying to surprise her. She said that''s what she wants.
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GOG being a Tacori dealer can send the diamond to Tacori directly and receive it from them when its done. That is what I mean by being insured all the way and having them set the ring.
 
So I did some more asking today and her 2 favorite shapes are cushion and round. She actually said that cushion is her favorite because it is "unique." For round, she commented that a lot of people have round. I asked what she would think if she it were a round and her response was "I wouldn''t be disappointed." I laughed and asked "Why?" Her reasoning was that they are look great but a lot of people have them.

Needless to say, I think I''m ready to place my order with GOG!
 
Date: 7/29/2009 6:35:08 PM
Author: diamondtiger
So I did some more asking today and her 2 favorite shapes are cushion and round. She actually said that cushion is her favorite because it is ''unique.'' For round, she commented that a lot of people have round. I asked what she would think if she it were a round and her response was ''I wouldn''t be disappointed.'' I laughed and asked ''Why?'' Her reasoning was that they are look great but a lot of people have them.

Needless to say, I think I''m ready to place my order with GOG!
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Yay! You have surely done due diligence here dt.
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This is the GemAdvisor informatino from the following diamond. What does it all mean?

H VS1

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So the first 3 attributes seem fine as they are "very good." However, what is a "fish eye" and what does a score of "poor" mean?
 
Date: 7/29/2009 8:09:52 PM
Author: Ellen
I don''t think you can do a cushion with that?
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I don''t know - i Just took it from their site.
 
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