GOG Chunky Cushion

[diamondtiger]

As some of you may know, I've had an ongoing thread in which I was originally debating between an oval and a round diamond. Well, it ended up with me "discovering" cushions, "showing" one of Rhino's videos to my GF, and even reserving the diamond from the video.

So now that I'm on the verge of buying the diamond, I figured I'd start a new thread. I did so mainly since the title no longer applies but also because I'm still a little skeptical. I guess it's a little natural to have some reservations about spending a large sum of money on something that you've never really seen. For instance ...

- Will it look as good as it does in the video? Will it have the same sparkle, brilliance, etc?
- Or is the video enhancing the sparkle, brilliance, etc?
- You guys have seen far more diamonds and cushions than I have. With that being said, how does this stack up against other cushions? For those of you that have monitored GOG's chunky cushions, how does it compare to others that have been for sale?
... FWIW, the setting will be the Tacori 2620.

She is obviously very special to me and I want the ring to show that.

The Diamond

The Video

 

[bowral1]

I am pretty sure it will look even better in real life! Cushions are beautiful with the halo setting. Great choice. There are lots of cushion lovers on this site to help you out.

Melissa

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/27/2009 7:37:39 PM
Author:diamondtiger
As some of you may know, I''ve had an ongoing thread in which I was originally debating between an oval and a round diamond. Well, it ended up with me ''discovering'' cushions, ''showing'' one of Rhino''s videos to my GF, and even reserving the diamond from the video.

So now that I''m on the verge of buying the diamond, I figured I''d start a new thread. I did so mainly since the title no longer applies but also because I''m still a little skeptical. I guess it''s a little natural to have some reservations about spending a large sum of money on something that you''ve never really seen. For instance ...

- Will it look as good as it does in the video? Will it have the same sparkle, brilliance, etc?
- Or is the video enhancing the sparkle, brilliance, etc?
- You guys have seen far more diamonds and cushions than I have. With that being said, how does this stack up against other cushions? For those of you that have monitored GOG''s chunky cushions, how does it compare to others that have been for sale?
... FWIW, the setting will be the Tacori 2620.

She is obviously very special to me and I want the ring to show that.

The Diamond

The Video

d, I linked you to a lengthy post by the gal who had seen the GOG stones both in person and in video. As she said, the videos are quite representitive. But like bowral said, if anything, they will look even better in real life. Remember though, lighting plays a big part, some is more conducive to sparkle than others. That goes for any cut.

It''s a beautiful cushion.

 

[diamondtiger]

Date: 7/27/2009 8:32:48 PM
Author: Ellen

Date:d, I linked you to a lengthy post by the gal who had seen the GOG stones both in person and in video. As she said, the videos are quite representitive. But like bowral said, if anything, they will look even better in real life. Remember though, lighting plays a big part, some is more conducive to sparkle than others. That goes for any cut.

It''s a beautiful cushion.

Where''s the link to the post?

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 7/27/2009 7:37:39 PM
Author:diamondtiger
As some of you may know, I''ve had an ongoing thread in which I was originally debating between an oval and a round diamond. Well, it ended up with me ''discovering'' cushions, ''showing'' one of Rhino''s videos to my GF, and even reserving the diamond from the video.

So now that I''m on the verge of buying the diamond, I figured I''d start a new thread. I did so mainly since the title no longer applies but also because I''m still a little skeptical. I guess it''s a little natural to have some reservations about spending a large sum of money on something that you''ve never really seen. For instance ...

- Will it look as good as it does in the video? Will it have the same sparkle, brilliance, etc?
- Or is the video enhancing the sparkle, brilliance, etc?
- You guys have seen far more diamonds and cushions than I have. With that being said, how does this stack up against other cushions? For those of you that have monitored GOG''s chunky cushions, how does it compare to others that have been for sale?
... FWIW, the setting will be the Tacori 2620.

She is obviously very special to me and I want the ring to show that.

The Diamond

The Video

Tiger I have just seen a 1.15 H in person over the weekend they look better in person than in the videos.
Take a look on Vimeo.com rhino has done two or three videos in outdoor lighting especially for the 2.46 L.
These stones are gorgeous especially in the sun.

I was skeptical about Jon''s videos but really they are not enhanced at all. IMO I think the diamond dock pictures make the stones look worse than what they look like on a hand or finger not better.

 

[packrat]

I can''t get the video to work for me at the moment..it''s loading sooo slowly. I will say that I''ve seen videos of others, and pictures of AJ''s..and I think it''ll knock your girlfriends socks off! If we had the money I would be ALL over one of these!!

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 7/27/2009 9:14:33 PM
Author: packrat
I can''t get the video to work for me at the moment..it''s loading sooo slowly. I will say that I''ve seen videos of others, and pictures of AJ''s..and I think it''ll knock your girlfriends socks off! If we had the money I would be ALL over one of these!!

http://www.vimeo.com/5219738 take a look at that one especially at the end.

 

[diamondtiger]

Is 1.07 CT going to be big enough? Her ring size is 4.5 and I want to be sure that it doesn''t look small. I know that''s probably a question is relative to each individual but your input/experience is appreciated.

 

[sillysweetie]

Date: 7/27/2009 9:34:53 PM
Author: diamondtiger
Is 1.07 CT going to be big enough? Her ring size is 4.5 and I want to be sure that it doesn''t look small. I know that''s probably a question is relative to each individual but your input/experience is appreciated.

Definitely check out arjunajane''s thread on her beautiful GOG cushion. She posted lots of stunning pics. Her stone is 1.08ct so you may take it as a reference.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/ajs-ering-downgrade-to-a-gog-omc.119094/

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 7/27/2009 10:08:37 PM
Author: sillysweetie

Date: 7/27/2009 9:34:53 PM

Author: diamondtiger

Is 1.07 CT going to be big enough? Her ring size is 4.5 and I want to be sure that it doesn''t look small. I know that''s probably a question is relative to each individual but your input/experience is appreciated.

Definitely check out arjunajane''s thread on her beautiful GOG cushion. She posted lots of stunning pics. Her stone is 1.08ct so you may take it as a reference.


https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/ajs-ering-downgrade-to-a-gog-omc.119094/

Yup, thanks SS!
Diamond tiger, my ring is size 5 - so if you are happy with how the size looks
on my finger, your GF''s will look a lil larger due to smaller finger size.

I can also attest the OMC''s look even better IRL than in the pics/videos.
I have tried to represent my diamond in lots of views
in my photos, hopefully that will help you.

 

[VRBeauty]

Love those new chunky cushions -- and your GF/FI will certainly get lots of compliments on it!

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 7/27/2009 9:34:53 PM
Author: diamondtiger
Is 1.07 CT going to be big enough? Her ring size is 4.5 and I want to be sure that it doesn''t look small. I know that''s probably a question is relative to each individual but your input/experience is appreciated.

Diamondtiger,

I struggle with the same issue here https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-shocking-final-diamond-choice-i-gave-to-my-fiance-which-one-would-you-pick.121154/.
A 1 carat diamond is still much larger than the average stone sold in North America and on a small finger is just fine.

However if you ask most women they are going to like bigger and these OMCs definitely look smaller than a round for the same carat weight.
I should point out that I felt that in only a 1 carat it is more difficult except up close to see how wonderful the facet pattern is on these stones.

Its easy to see in a blowup video or picture but in real life its a little more difficult. You should see it in real life for yourself.
But the question you have to ask yourself is are you willing to pay a lot more or go down in color to get bigger? The cut is not making the diamond look appreciably smaller.

 

[arjunajane]

Date: 7/28/2009 3:37:33 AM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover

Date: 7/27/2009 9:34:53 PM

Author: diamondtiger

Is 1.07 CT going to be big enough? Her ring size is 4.5 and I want to be sure that it doesn''t look small. I know that''s probably a question is relative to each individual but your input/experience is appreciated.

Diamondtiger,


I struggle with the same issue here https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-shocking-final-diamond-choice-i-gave-to-my-fiance-which-one-would-you-pick.121154/.

A 1 carat diamond is still much larger than the average stone sold in North America and on a small finger is just fine.


However if you ask most women they are going to like bigger and these OMCs definitely look smaller than a round for the same carat weight.

I should point out that I felt that in only a 1 carat it is more difficult except up close to see how wonderful the facet pattern is on these stones.


Its easy to see in a blowup video or picture but in real life its a little more difficult. You should see it in real life for yourself.

But the question you have to ask yourself is are you willing to pay a lot more or go down in color to get bigger? The cut is not making the diamond look appreciably smaller.

Hey CCL,

I can''t speak for everyone that owns one of these new OMC''s, but I do have to say I disagree with some parts of your post based on my own experience.

My 1ct OMC on the hand I can easily see/appreciate the facet pattern both up close and
from arm''s distance.

Also, having owned a round ideal cut, I was also surprised for a fancy just how decent the face up size/spread was. I''m not saying it will look exactly the same as a H&A round of same weight, but I doubt there is much in it..

I can understand though in your case, going from only viewing photos/videos to seeing the real thing in real life, how you might get that impression about the "small" facets/size.
But this will be the case with any diamond shape you choose - after all they are very tiny things in real life!

 

[Ellen]

Date: 7/27/2009 9:07:03 PM
Author: diamondtiger

Date: 7/27/2009 8:32:48 PM
Author: Ellen

Date:d, I linked you to a lengthy post by the gal who had seen the GOG stones both in person and in video. As she said, the videos are quite representitive. But like bowral said, if anything, they will look even better in real life. Remember though, lighting plays a big part, some is more conducive to sparkle than others. That goes for any cut.

It''s a beautiful cushion.

Where''s the link to the post?

Here it is.

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/a-follow-up-to-my-post-on-gog-and-their-awesome-videos-and-answers-to-ellens-questions.77820/



And CCL, just a note. This diamond is going in a halo, and she has tiny fingers, we can''t go too far or it will be falling off her finger!

And aj raises a good point about all diamonds appearing much smaller in real life. I can remember trying on a 1.28 round in a B&M for the first time and exclaiming, It''s so small! The SA probably thought I was nuts, not knowing I had been gazing at highly magnified pics for moths. lol

 

[emeraldlover1]

That is the same setting that I have and I have a 2.75ct emerald on a size 5 finger. I''m sure I''m biased but I don''t think the halo adds too much to the size. The halo for the most part is set under the stone.

 

[diamondtiger]

Another question that I was thinking about - will the halo take away from the diamond? Will it change the shape of it?

 

[Luckyeshe]

Date: 7/28/2009 1:16:18 PM
Author: diamondtiger
Another question that I was thinking about - will the halo take away from the diamond? Will it change the shape of it?

I love halos

and I have a cushion diamond as well! I honestly don't think it takes away from the cushion, if anything, it gives it extra sparkle

. I have a 1 carat diamond with a halo on a 4.75 finger. Loads of people think my diamond is bigger than it is!

I also found this thread about rings reset in a halo so hope this helps!

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-before-after-shots-halos-upgrades-etc.32419/

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 7/28/2009 1:16:18 PM
Author: diamondtiger
Another question that I was thinking about - will the halo take away from the diamond? Will it change the shape of it?

As I am also getting a halo for my Fiance I can tell you I have asked that question a million times. Do you have a Harry Winston near you? or another high end jewler who has delicate quality halo rings? I would strongly suggest you go and see them for yourself.

Just type in HW halo in the search and you can see a lot of delicate rings by Leon Mege, Harry Winston and Mark at ERD to see what it could look like.
However the pictures are very misleading as the ratio of melee to centre stone isn''t accurate. I have been all over Montreal trying to look at different melee sizes of halos with 1 carat stones.

Depending upon the size of the melee diamonds the side stones can have an affect on the overall look. The best halos in my opinion compliment the centre stone and also increase the size so if you get about 0.8 - 1 pointers you will achieve both.

In general if you want no airline and a delicate look the halo will be matched to the centre stone and match its shape. A one carat OMC has a spread of 6mm width approximately. Add to it 1.5mm on each side for a halo and you have 9mm. On a 4.5 size finger thats about a 58% finger coverage and that means you will cover the whole top of the finger. I''d say that it is definitely big enough, my Fiance is a size 5.5 and I calculated that size to be big enough for her even.

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 7/28/2009 4:07:00 AM
Author: arjunajane

Date: 7/28/2009 3:37:33 AM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover

Date: 7/27/2009 9:34:53 PM

Author: diamondtiger

Is 1.07 CT going to be big enough? Her ring size is 4.5 and I want to be sure that it doesn''t look small. I know that''s probably a question is relative to each individual but your input/experience is appreciated.

Diamondtiger,


I struggle with the same issue here https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/the-shocking-final-diamond-choice-i-gave-to-my-fiance-which-one-would-you-pick.121154/.

A 1 carat diamond is still much larger than the average stone sold in North America and on a small finger is just fine.


However if you ask most women they are going to like bigger and these OMCs definitely look smaller than a round for the same carat weight.

I should point out that I felt that in only a 1 carat it is more difficult except up close to see how wonderful the facet pattern is on these stones.


Its easy to see in a blowup video or picture but in real life its a little more difficult. You should see it in real life for yourself.

But the question you have to ask yourself is are you willing to pay a lot more or go down in color to get bigger? The cut is not making the diamond look appreciably smaller.

Hey CCL,

I can''t speak for everyone that owns one of these new OMC''s, but I do have to say I disagree with some parts of your post based on my own experience.

My 1ct OMC on the hand I can easily see/appreciate the facet pattern both up close and
from arm''s distance.

Also, having owned a round ideal cut, I was also surprised for a fancy just how decent the face up size/spread was. I''m not saying it will look exactly the same as a H&A round of same weight, but I doubt there is much in it..

I can understand though in your case, going from only viewing photos/videos to seeing the real thing in real life, how you might get that impression about the ''small'' facets/size.
But this will be the case with any diamond shape you choose - after all they are very tiny things in real life!

I agree totally with what you said. After all as a proportion to the total size of the stone those mirrors under the tables are as big as any facet you will see in any brilliant cut diamond! However when looking at the blowups of your ring I was expecting something more dramatic in real life that would make this 1ct stone look bigger that didn''t really happen.

I gave you an actual size difference between your round and your OMC about 25% less but the square shape does psychologically make it look bigger which is a good thing. It is an unfair comparison to compare OMCs to Rounds they are 15 - 35% cheaper for the same carat weight.

 

[diamondtiger]

Date: 7/28/2009 1:57:44 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
As I am also getting a halo for my Fiance I can tell you I have asked that question a million times. Do you have a Harry Winston near you? or another high end jewler who has delicate quality halo rings? I would strongly suggest you go and see them for yourself.


Just type in HW halo in the search and you can see a lot of delicate rings by Leon Mege, Harry Winston and Mark at ERD to see what it could look like.

However the pictures are very misleading as the ratio of melee to centre stone isn''t accurate. I have been all over Montreal trying to look at different melee sizes of halos with 1 carat stones.


Depending upon the size of the melee diamonds the side stones can have an affect on the overall look. The best halos in my opinion compliment the centre stone and also increase the size so if you get about 0.8 - 1 pointers you will achieve both.


In general if you want no airline and a delicate look the halo will be matched to the centre stone and match its shape. A one carat OMC has a spread of 6mm width approximately. Add to it 1.5mm on each side for a halo and you have 9mm. On a 4.5 size finger thats about a 58% finger coverage and that means you will cover the whole top of the finger. I''d say that it is definitely big enough, my Fiance is a size 5.5 and I calculated that size to be big enough for her even.

She wants the Tacori 2620. How are the melee diamonds on this? Are they going to be 1.5mm as in your example? (BTW ... I''d look it up myself but I''m at work and can''t do it without making it obvious that I''m looking at rings - I want this to be a surprise!!)

 

[emeraldlover1]

Date: 7/28/2009 3:34:37 PM
Author: diamondtiger

Date: 7/28/2009 1:57:44 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover
As I am also getting a halo for my Fiance I can tell you I have asked that question a million times. Do you have a Harry Winston near you? or another high end jewler who has delicate quality halo rings? I would strongly suggest you go and see them for yourself.


Just type in HW halo in the search and you can see a lot of delicate rings by Leon Mege, Harry Winston and Mark at ERD to see what it could look like.

However the pictures are very misleading as the ratio of melee to centre stone isn''t accurate. I have been all over Montreal trying to look at different melee sizes of halos with 1 carat stones.


Depending upon the size of the melee diamonds the side stones can have an affect on the overall look. The best halos in my opinion compliment the centre stone and also increase the size so if you get about 0.8 - 1 pointers you will achieve both.


In general if you want no airline and a delicate look the halo will be matched to the centre stone and match its shape. A one carat OMC has a spread of 6mm width approximately. Add to it 1.5mm on each side for a halo and you have 9mm. On a 4.5 size finger thats about a 58% finger coverage and that means you will cover the whole top of the finger. I''d say that it is definitely big enough, my Fiance is a size 5.5 and I calculated that size to be big enough for her even.

She wants the Tacori 2620. How are the melee diamonds on this? Are they going to be 1.5mm as in your example? (BTW ... I''d look it up myself but I''m at work and can''t do it without making it obvious that I''m looking at rings - I want this to be a surprise!!)

Did you see my post?? I have this the Tacori 2620 setting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The halo is set slightly under the stone. The halo is litterally less than 1mm. The amount of stones is based on how large your stone is. The band is 2mm.

While I agree that most halo settings the halo is the same size as the band width it is not the case with this setting which is why those of us that have it find it so appealing. Please note that the Harry Winston pave halo style is a completeley different look than the Tacori 2620.

 

[diamondtiger]

Date: 7/28/2009 4:48:05 PM
Author: emeraldlover1

Did you see my post?? I have this the Tacori 2620 setting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The halo is set slightly under the stone. The halo is litterally less than 1mm. The amount of stones is based on how large your stone is. The band is 2mm.


While I agree that most halo settings the halo is the same size as the band width it is not the case with this setting which is why those of us that have it find it so appealing. Please note that the Harry Winston pave halo style is a completeley different look than the Tacori 2620.

So with the 2620''s pave diamonds, we''re looking at a coverage of 8mm? Am I correct in this? Also, while we''re talking about settings, who else does settings that would be on the same level as Tacori? HW is pretty expensive isn''t it?

 

[emeraldlover1]

Date: 7/28/2009 5:21:47 PM
Author: diamondtiger

Date: 7/28/2009 4:48:05 PM
Author: emeraldlover1

Did you see my post?? I have this the Tacori 2620 setting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The halo is set slightly under the stone. The halo is litterally less than 1mm. The amount of stones is based on how large your stone is. The band is 2mm.


While I agree that most halo settings the halo is the same size as the band width it is not the case with this setting which is why those of us that have it find it so appealing. Please note that the Harry Winston pave halo style is a completeley different look than the Tacori 2620.

So with the 2620''s pave diamonds, we''re looking at a coverage of 8mm? Am I correct in this? Also, while we''re talking about settings, who else does settings that would be on the same level as Tacori? HW is pretty expensive isn''t it?

I would say about 8mm based on the size of your stone. HW is very expensive. There are lots of designers in NYC that can produce great quality pave. Leon Mege is one of them. Mark at ERD does good work but he uses CAD which some people like, some people do not. However, I will caution you, if your girlfriend likes the look of the 2620 take a look at the pictures of this setting that myself and others have posted here. I have not seen anyone that does similar basket work. Not saying that they can''t but I haven''t seen a lot of it. It''s one of the reasons I fell in love with the setting that I have. On another note, we bought my stone from ERD and briefly had him put together a CAD for us. It was more the HW style pave. We didn''t love it so we went in another direction. We considered Leon and I believe that my fiance did get a quote from him that was comparable to the Tacori but when we saw the Tacori it all came together. It was exactly what we were looking for. I''ve never seen another halo like this setting.

 

[emeraldlover1]

PS...if you are in NY area, I''ve seen some amazing pave work out of some other places recently.

 

[diamondtiger]

Date: 7/28/2009 6:53:12 PM
Author: emeraldlover1

I would say about 8mm based on the size of your stone. HW is very expensive. There are lots of designers in NYC that can produce great quality pave. Leon Mege is one of them. Mark at ERD does good work but he uses CAD which some people like, some people do not. However, I will caution you, if your girlfriend likes the look of the 2620 take a look at the pictures of this setting that myself and others have posted here. I have not seen anyone that does similar basket work. Not saying that they can''t but I haven''t seen a lot of it. It''s one of the reasons I fell in love with the setting that I have. On another note, we bought my stone from ERD and briefly had him put together a CAD for us. It was more the HW style pave. We didn''t love it so we went in another direction. We considered Leon and I believe that my fiance did get a quote from him that was comparable to the Tacori but when we saw the Tacori it all came together. It was exactly what we were looking for. I''ve never seen another halo like this setting.

Thanks for the thoughtful response. It''s amazing to hear the different stories of how so many people have literally fallen in love with their rings. I want her to have that same feeling which is why I''m asking so many questions - I want it to be perfect. So if she''s a size 4.5, 8mm of coverage is about what % of her hand? Is there a % that most people/women shoot for?

... man I swear this would be easier if I weren''t trying to make this such a surprise!

 

[emeraldlover1]

Date: 7/28/2009 7:33:45 PM
Author: diamondtiger

Date: 7/28/2009 6:53:12 PM
Author: emeraldlover1

I would say about 8mm based on the size of your stone. HW is very expensive. There are lots of designers in NYC that can produce great quality pave. Leon Mege is one of them. Mark at ERD does good work but he uses CAD which some people like, some people do not. However, I will caution you, if your girlfriend likes the look of the 2620 take a look at the pictures of this setting that myself and others have posted here. I have not seen anyone that does similar basket work. Not saying that they can''t but I haven''t seen a lot of it. It''s one of the reasons I fell in love with the setting that I have. On another note, we bought my stone from ERD and briefly had him put together a CAD for us. It was more the HW style pave. We didn''t love it so we went in another direction. We considered Leon and I believe that my fiance did get a quote from him that was comparable to the Tacori but when we saw the Tacori it all came together. It was exactly what we were looking for. I''ve never seen another halo like this setting.

Thanks for the thoughtful response. It''s amazing to hear the different stories of how so many people have literally fallen in love with their rings. I want her to have that same feeling which is why I''m asking so many questions - I want it to be perfect. So if she''s a size 4.5, 8mm of coverage is about what % of her hand? Is there a % that most people/women shoot for?

... man I swear this would be easier if I weren''t trying to make this such a surprise!

I totally understand. My fiance was so nervous about getting it right that he asked me to help with the stone. We found the setting together and his eyes lit up and he made the final decision. It is going to be perfect! Her finger is small and 8mm is about the diamater of 2ct. stone so I wouldn''t worry about percentage of finger coverage. I''m sure that there is a chart here but really does it matter? I think what you are going for is perfect and if she loves that setting then that is what I would get her. Tacori is not the end all be all and I still long for a LM ring someday however if was not right for this project. I tell you this because you can recogize a Tacori any where. Its not that people can''t duplicate the work and there are better better designers out there its that the intracate detail of the design is something I''ve yet to see duplicated. I hope that helps. Feel free to ask more questions if you like.

 

[emeraldlover1]

I''m going to look and see if I can find some close ups of the underside and side of my ring for you. BRB.

 

[emeraldlover1]

Here is a recent one take sort of from the side. Please excuse the fuzz...

 

[emeraldlover1]

This setting is so much more than a delicate halo...

 

[diamondtiger]

All I can say is WOW. Seeing those pics makes it all seem so much more real. Can you post one or two more showing the top? I''m interested in seeing the halo.