God-daughter is doing online pawn

[telephone89]

Corporate ladder? I said career ladder. Could be nursing, hairdressing, real estate, police, running a nail salon, or a million other things. Doesn't have to be anything office-based.

Ok, sorry for mixing up which C word you used related to the workforce. I think my point still stands, you look down upon sex workers for "skipping" the career ladder and doing their own thing. Perhaps you regret your own past in the workforce and are jealous of the freedom and cashola these girls are making?

 

[Jambalaya]

@AllAboardTheBlingTrain - but the OF account is under her real name. And she has tons of stuff on the internet with her location, job, etc. Literally, the name of the place where she works is on the internet, on her IG account posts, and it's a public space, and she works late hours. Anyone could go there and follow her home. It's crazy.

I'm concerned that OF is a route to other things. Like a gateway drug.

 

[marymm]

^ I believe adults make their own decisions, and it is not for me to worry about their decisions.

Your god-daughter is 30 years old, educated, mentally competent, and her chosen way of life is clearly outside your own comfort zone.

Sure, you can worry about her ... but that is you choosing to do so. Your goddaughter has not asked for your advice, and her life choices are really none of your business.

If your main worry is stalking, why not reach out to her -- tell her you've seen her Insta and OnlyFans websites and that you've noticed she has posted personally identifying information -- and ask if she has established protections and protocols to address any unwelcome and/or excessive and/or stalking attention? In my view, you can have this conversation once with her, and then leave it be.

 

[Jambalaya]

^^ Telephone, I can't pretend that I think s*x work is as honorable as other work. But I know that many s*x workers are in it to feed addictions or because they have traumatic pasts and no family support or other options, and that is a different thing. They should be given HELP to get out, as in my quoted post above. If the industry is made better, it keeps them in it! I know there might be outliers, but how many women would really want to keep having s*x with men they're not attracted to if they had better options?

 

[AllAboardTheBlingTrain]

@AllAboardTheBlingTrain - but the OF account is under her real name. And she has tons of stuff on the internet with her location, job, etc. Literally, the name of the place where she works is on the internet, on her IG account posts, and it's a public space, and she works late hours. Anyone could go there and follow her home. It's crazy.

I'm concerned that OF is a route to other things. Like a gateway drug.

Okay, but that’s idiotic in the extreme and has nothing to do with sex work (posting her location, job etc). OF doesn’t require that you provide your subscribers with a map to your location. That’s all on her. If she just had an OF - even with her real name - and didn’t post her location everywhere it wouldn’t be super dangerous. And since her info is all out there anyway, the OF is not going to be risking her safety any more than she is already doing.

Also, I don’t really believe in the gateway drug theory, but let’s assume this is the case and that she gets into physical sex work as a step after OF. Assuming she does so in a safe way - meets clients in a hotel instead of her home, uses condoms, gets herself regularly tested, perhaps hires security - all things that higher-end escorts do, btw, then how exactly is she risking dire consequences?

The sex work industry isn’t the problem here, it is the way your goddaughter chooses to interact with it that could possibly be a problem.

 

[LemonMoonLex]

OK, well when she gets raped or murdered or commits suicide, or worse, I'll come back to this thread and you can tell me how safe she was and how I was just being horrible.

This is horrible & so manipulative to say. You need to take a step back and truly look at what you've been saying on this thread.

If you're just going to spread subjective view points that fear monger and refuse to look at the collective experience of being an online adult content creator not many people will want to converse with you as youre coming off incredibly harshly and as if your opinion is the end all be all.

I get that you're worried but you can be so and share that here without being so awfully judgemental. Plus have you ever thought that her setting up creative shoots and videos exploring her sexuality while monetizing it, might be her cathartic way of working through her trauma and claiming her body back for herself?

To others that are frustrated, I've noticed that the OP almost enjoys creating hostile atmospheres here on PS with her attention grabbing titles and polarizing views. Some part of me feels as if this is just a boredom or attention thing and not just the extreme concern she's masking it as, but judgement to stir the pot.

Therefore I will see my way out, good luck OP & I would definitely keep your views to yourself in the future if they are indeed as harsh as the ones you've shared on here.

 

[Jambalaya]

Sure, you can worry about her ... but that is you choosing to do so. Your goddaughter has not asked for your advice, and her life choices are really none of your business.

I haven't said anything to her, because yes, her choices are her own.

None of my business? I guess I would have no business feeling heartbreak if something happens to her either, then.

 

[AllAboardTheBlingTrain]

^^ Telephone, I can't pretend that I think s*x work is as honorable as other work. But I know that many s*x workers are in it to feed addictions or because they have traumatic pasts and no family support or other options, and that is a different thing. They should be given HELP to get out, as in my quoted post above. If the industry is made better, it keeps them in it! I know there might be outliers, but how many women would really want to keep having s*x with men they're not attracted to if they had better options?

So if some women are in desperate conditions, let’s not improve those conditions because then they might choose to be in them versus forced to be in them?? Isn’t it better to improve conditions and destigmatise the industry so that women who want to leave can, but women who don’t want to leave have a better/easier time of it? Shouldn’t we be supporting ALL women instead of just the ones who act according to our personal moral standards?

 

[telephone89]

^^ Telephone, I can't pretend that I think s*x work is as honorable as other work. But I know that many s*x workers are in it to feed addictions or because they have traumatic pasts and no family support or other options, and that is a different thing. They should be given HELP to get out, as in my quoted post above. If the industry is made better, it keeps them in it! I know there might be outliers, but how many women would really want to keep having s*x with men they're not attracted to if they had better options?

People are also waitresses to feed addictions. People are also accountants to feed addictions.

If people WANT help, they should receive it. If people WANT to do sex work, who are you to tell them to stop?

Not all sex work is having sex with men they aren't attracted to.

 

[Jambalaya]

This is horrible & so manipulative to say. You need to take a step back and truly look at what you've been saying on this thread.

If you're just going to spread subjective view points that fear monger and refuse to look at the collective experience of being an online adult content creator not many people will want to converse with you as youre coming off incredibly harshly and as if your opinion is the end all be all.

I get that you're worried but you can be so and share that here without being so awfully judgemental. Plus have you ever thought that her setting up creative shoots and videos exploring her sexuality while monetizing it, might be her cathartic way of working through her trauma and claiming her body back for herself?

To others that are frustrated, I've noticed that the OP almost enjoys creating hostile atmospheres here on PS with her attention grabbing titles and polarizing views. Some part of me feels as if this is just a boredom or attention thing and not just the extreme concern she's masking it as, but judgement to stir the pot.

Therefore I will see my way out, good luck OP & I would definitely keep your views to yourself in the future if they are indeed as harsh as the ones you've shared on here.

It's so easy to be all cool and distant when it's not YOUR loved one doing pawn, isn't it?

 

[Jambalaya]

^^ Telephone, I can't seem to quote this, but I'm referring to what you said about not all s*x work being having s*x with men that the workers aren't attracted to. Obviously I'm talking in generalities here. If I qualified everything I wrote with the exceptions that prove the rule, I'd be writing forever. There's a lot of research about the myriad negative and damaging effects o the s*x industry, most of them on the s*x workers.

 

[Jambalaya]

So if some women are in desperate conditions, let’s not improve those conditions because then they might choose to be in them versus forced to be in them?? Isn’t it better to improve conditions and destigmatise the industry so that women who want to leave can, but women who don’t want to leave have a better/easier time of it?

I guess it depends if you believe that improving the industry can ever remove its myriad negatives. I don't believe it can.

 

[Jambalaya]

attention grabbing titles

People complained that Hangout was too quiet and sleepy.

 

[LemonMoonLex]

People complained that Hangout was too quiet and sleepy.

Lol I knew it!

 

[Jambalaya]

To others that are frustrated, I've noticed that the OP almost enjoys creating hostile atmospheres here on PS with her attention grabbing titles and polarizing views. Some part of me feels as if this is just a boredom or attention thing and not just the extreme concern she's masking it as, but judgement to stir the pot.

My eyes just rolled so far back I saw my brain. I'm sorry that you don't have any empathy for what's going on with my GD and her parents. This is about a real woman who has started down a potentially very dangerous path, someone that I care about. But you don't get it, and that's OK. Maybe you have to have a loved one in your life whose situation is similar to my GD to understand.

 

[Jambalaya]

Lol I knew it!

I am NOT referring to my two threads about my GD. I'm referring to the other threads, which were much more about fun stuff.

 

[Jambalaya]

Well, I don't think there's much more to say. It seems we have a group of members who are absolutely fine with their own daughters, goddaughters, nieces etc. being in the too-often murky and dangerous world of s*x work, which really, really surprises me, and not in a good way.

I hold the opposite view. I am not fine with it.

And I don't think that ever the twain shall meet.

 

[Jambalaya]

 

[Jambalaya]

^^ Glad you're finding humor in my GD's dangerous situation, Lemon.

 

[LemonMoonLex]

^^ Glad you're finding humor in my GD's dangerous situation, Lemon.

I obviously didn't laugh about your GD, I laughed because you have zero clue if I would or not. The assumptions made on this thread are hilarious, about s** work & the options of others. Also nice job baiting, it worked didn't it?

 

[LemonMoonLex]

Also I HAD to like this one In the hope you'll too quote it and it'll have that cool neverending mirror effect!

 

[Jambalaya]

Well, @LemonMoonLex , I hope you can still laugh if my GD experiences any bad consequences from this. I'm glad that this family's troubles are providing you with hilarity.

 

[telephone89]

You didnt seem to care about any consequences from dating a grossly older man as a child (aka rape), why do you have issues with her now that she's making informed decisions as an adult? In fact you DEFENDED HIM and their relationship. Did her previous rape not count, or only if it's due to sex work?

 

[ean]

Imo, you should talk to your GD about your concerns, like real actual adults, rather than posting in a public forum about her business for the public to make opinions on. This thread will not make any difference in her or your life.

To be honest, if this was me and I found out that somebody is discussing very intimate parts of my life (like the affair when she was was a minor) in a public forum I would be very furious.

 

[Jambalaya]

^^ telephone89, you know very well that that thread was about her agency. She said she was OK with that relationship, did not think she was a victim and I (mostly) chose to believe her. The thread was posing the question that IS someone a victim if they insist they are not?

 

[Jambalaya]

Imo, you should talk to your GD about your concerns, like real actual adults, rather than posting in a public forum about her business for the public to make opinions on. This thread will not make any difference in her or your life.

To be honest, if this was me and I found out that somebody is discussing very intimate parts of my life (like the affair when she was was a minor) in a public forum I would be very furious.

Yes, well, that's why we're all anonymous, isn't it? And the prevailing view seems to be that I should let her be, as a consenting adult etc.

 

[telephone89]

^^ telephone89, you know very well that that thread was about her agency. She said she was OK with that relationship, did not think she was a victim and I (mostly) chose to believe her. The thread was posing the question that IS someone a victim if they insist they are not?

Then why don't you trust her NOW, as a 30 year old woman??????????????????

 

[elizat]

Reluctant to wade in but I will.

If you have concerns about her and her life, as someone that loves her and cares about her, talk to her in person.

I'm sure that there are things that I do that my parents don't like or don't agree with, or that make them uncomfortable, but that's where communication comes in.

At the end of the day, it is her choice to make but I think if you have concerns you can express them in a non-confrontational respectful way.

Also, for what it is worth, I do think that while they're certainly can be more risks involved with physical in-person work with the adult entertainment industry, working online with something like only fans has less of a risk.

I'm an attorney. Because of the nature of my practice I have a lot of claims involving strip clubs. I think that some of the dancers that work there are frankly much more at risk for things like becoming addicted to drugs and alcohol and entering into concerning relationships with people than someone would with working on an online platform like only fans. I actually think it's a heck of a lot safer than many things that she could do. As part of my work, I routinely deal with club employees and entertainers.

Honestly? Even bartenders have a greater chance of becoming an alcoholic statistically as compared to someone using only fans. In my work I come across a lot of bartenders with very serious drinking problems. For every good bartender that doesn't have an issue, there are many more that do simply because of the industry.

I would just make sure that she has her personal information as far as her address and physical location suppressed online to the best of her ability if she's going to do this.

 

[Jambalaya]

Then why don't you trust her NOW, as a 30 year old woman??????????????????

Danger, danger, danger! This is all under her real name, remember! And the site works worldwide. Crazy. Just crazy.

 

[Jambalaya]

OK, I have a plan. I'm not going to say anything to her right now, because her parents have talked to her. But six months from now, I'm going to check in with her and ask her how it's going.

It's good to have a plan. Feel slightly less worried now.