FrekeChild
Super_Ideal_Rock
- Joined
- Dec 14, 2007
- Messages
- 19,456
I tend to think it''s indicative of the reason behind the saying, one shouldn''t discuss sex, religion or politics at parties.Date: 9/7/2008 11:48:48 AM
Author: miraclesrule
Date: 9/7/2008 12:30:38 AM
Author: HollyS
''It would be nice to get the hell away from America'' ??????
Maybe you and Michelle Obama can find a cozy little socialist enclave somewhere where you two can be free of the country neither of you can be proud of.And we can be free of you.![]()
![]()
![]()
I know that it is very difficult for opposing sides not to come into this thread and ''defend'' their position.
I stuck around PS because I truly believed it to be a supportive environment in the spirit of ''INforum''ing'' yourself and others. This is usually based on informatin of a more factual basis that allows one to make a more informed decision. The experts and posters on this forum are invaluable for those looking to educate themselves. I can understand why it''s done for diamonds and large purchases, but believe it to be even more important for the next President and potential President should they need to step in and govern. I don''t understand why that same support is impossible in this thread. Is it indicative of why America is in the current rut?
Maintaining the status quo by posting ''Spin Opinion'' articles that are clearly part of smear campaigns and posting caustic remarks to a fellow PS''er such as this one I just read from Holly S make me feel sad because we all have a need to be heard and be understood. There is a way of being supportive and to respectfully disagree. There are also times when one should be capable of biting their tongue if their post is merely intended to insult, as I believe this post was. This is not in the spirit of Informing yourself or anyone else. We are capable of so much more light.
IndyGirl - you have nothing to apologize for.Date: 9/7/2008 3:24:10 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
Short article about how McCain intends to put ''some'' more than ''one'' Democrat in his cabinet if elected...whether this will happen & which Democrats he chooses will be interesting. The article also states that Palin will start giving interviews in ''a few days.'' I''m sure she''s having mock interviews with McCain''s people everyday; I couldn''t imagine the type of preparation she is having to go through right now, making sure she doesn''t say anything contra to McCain''s views, learning everything she can about foreign policy that might be thrown out there, trying to have smart (but not snarky) replies, etc., etc.
**Side note** I didn''t know one paragraph about not believing a waitress would stir up such controversy!Due to past & current bickering that has occurred on this thread/forum (myself included), I wanted to apologize to all PSers who come to these threads for my inability to ''let something go'' the first time I feel confronted. I hope you all know it wasn''t my intent to bore/annoy/frustrate you all with any of my many posts on this thread or any other thread around here. I am, perhaps, overly enthusiastic about discussing/defending my views on everything that has been happening in this election & probably need to learn that when someone quotes my post I don''t *need* to reply.
Arguments & debates, while seen as great things in most other areas of my life, are most of the time not PS-friendly & I respect that. I never knew a PS without this forum, so I wouldn''t want it to be taken away for any of us. Anyway, I''ve actually enjoyed this forum for the most part & will to try my best to keep things on topic & civil (except for this little note, of course).![]()
![]()
ETA: I missed your link when posting above...I think many will be tuning in to get a better look. She better be ready for her close-up (again)!
Date: 9/7/2008 3:24:10 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
Short article about how McCain intends to put ''some'' more than ''one'' Democrat in his cabinet if elected...whether this will happen & which Democrats he chooses will be interesting. The article also states that Palin will start giving interviews in ''a few days.'' I''m sure she''s having mock interviews with McCain''s people everyday; I couldn''t imagine the type of preparation she is having to go through right now, making sure she doesn''t say anything contra to McCain''s views, learning everything she can about foreign policy that might be thrown out there, trying to have smart (but not snarky) replies, etc., etc.
**Side note** I didn''t know one paragraph about not believing a waitress would stir up such controversy!Due to past & current bickering that has occurred on this thread/forum (myself included), I wanted to apologize to all PSers who come to these threads for my inability to ''let something go'' the first time I feel confronted. I hope you all know it wasn''t my intent to bore/annoy/frustrate you all with any of my many posts on this thread or any other thread around here. I am, perhaps, overly enthusiastic about discussing/defending my views on everything that has been happening in this election & probably need to learn that when someone quotes my post I don''t *need* to reply.
Arguments & debates, while seen as great things in most other areas of my life, are most of the time not PS-friendly & I respect that. I never knew a PS without this forum, so I wouldn''t want it to be taken away for any of us. Anyway, I''ve actually enjoyed this forum for the most part & will to try my best to keep things on topic & civil (except for this little note, of course).![]()
![]()
ETA: luckystar...I missed your link when posting above...I think many will be tuning in to get a better look. She better be ready for her close-up (again)!
Well, hopefully, you & more than a few other PSers can rejoin/join this thread since we all have seemingly reconciled & agreed to "Play Nice."Date: 9/7/2008 3:34:43 PM
Author: iluvcarats
I don''t think you have anything to apologize for Indygirl. I dropped out a while back b/c I was afraid of becoming too insulting. You were just stating your case, and you did it gracefully. I admire your fortitude.![]()
No ill will here either. I am going to do my best to steer clear (can''t promise though) only because I enjoy the lighter side of PS, and when I get entangled in the political threads, I find that I can''t enjoy the other stuff as much, and PS is such a great escape for me. Maybe when someone is elected, and we all have a common denominator to pick on....I''ll take you up on that.Date: 9/7/2008 3:45:29 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
Well, hopefully, you & more than a few other PSers can rejoin/join this thread since we all have seemingly reconciled & agreed to ''Play Nice.''Date: 9/7/2008 3:34:43 PM
Author: iluvcarats
I don''t think you have anything to apologize for Indygirl. I dropped out a while back b/c I was afraid of becoming too insulting. You were just stating your case, and you did it gracefully. I admire your fortitude.
I have no personal ill feelings towards any other PSer (would be silly), so I hope we can keep this all going until the election & then afterwards we can criticize whomever''s in office!![]()
![]()
Date: 9/7/2008 5:18:42 PM
Author: trillionaire
A Republican minded voter on McCain/Palin
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/minette_marrin/article4692133.ece
Date: 9/7/2008 5:42:38 PM
Author: risingsun
I have read this thread with increasing dismay at the disrespect with which some of the more vocal posters have treated each other. I told myself I would not become involved until I read a post ridiculing older women as being jealous of Sarah Palin because she is younger and better looking than them. These comments are offensive, inappropriate and biased. Without older women and the changes they fostered in this country, there wouldn''t be a Sarah Palin on the ticket at all. Some posters may think that women''s rights are passe''. The women''s movement is not something to be taken for granted, nor is its founders.
Yeah, that IS quite interesting...I knew she was very much pro-life in every way, but I hadn't read much about her views on contraception. Like I said in another post on another thread, I think that even if she personally feels strongly about an issue she picks her battles conerning which issues she will strongly pursue politically (i.e. not creationism).Date: 9/7/2008 7:30:49 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Interesting article..sorry if it's already been posted, but I didn't see it. Abstinence Only?
Date: 9/7/2008 2:19:10 PM
Author: ksinger
So to all, I wish you well. Of all the folks I'll miss, Moon, and Miracles, I'm gonna miss you both the most I think. Moon, for your enviable ability to let it roll and the fact that we and our men seem to read the same books, and MiraclesRule, for your non-saccharine sweetness all mixed up with tough and intelligent. If there was some way I could figure out to keep in touch with you both, I would. Oh, and also AGBF, Our Lady of Zen. Amazing person.
Date: 9/7/2008 9:17:46 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
As a sign of the media frenzy surrounding Palin, I just listened to Russell Brand (some English personality hosting the MTV VMAs) insult Palin, her daughter, and her daughter''s boyfriend in his opening monologue. He also, of course, voiced his support for Obama and called Bush a ''retarded cowboy'' and went on about how the UK would never have elected him. I obviously don''t watch MTV for political analysis, but I just found it odd how transparent MTV made it''s support for only one candidate this election. I found everything he said offensive to Americans in general so I will not be watching the rest...back to football.![]()
Date: 9/7/2008 9:17:46 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
As a sign of the media frenzy surrounding Palin, I just listened to Russell Brand (some English personality hosting the MTV VMAs) insult Palin, her daughter, and her daughter''s boyfriend in his opening monologue. He also, of course, voiced his support for Obama and called Bush a ''retarded cowboy'' and went on about how the UK would never have elected him. I obviously don''t watch MTV for political analysis, but I just found it odd how transparent MTV made it''s support for only one candidate this election. I found everything he said offensive to Americans in general so I will not be watching the rest...back to football.![]()
Yeah, his onesidedness was so blatant and tasteless it made me turn the channel immediately! MTV, as a "news source" for some younger kids, used to take responsibility for unbiased reporting (although I always knew they leaned liberal) but it seems that that is now long gone. It seems more apt to just support whomever the celebrities are following around these days. I don't react well to anyone criticizing our democracy (not our COUNTRY but our VOTING), especially one who DOESN'T EVEN LIVE HERE.Date: 9/7/2008 9:22:31 PM
Author: luckystar112
Kind of off topic
I thought that I could take a mini break and watch a little bit of the VMAs tonight, and of course I've got some Brit (the host) telling everyone to vote for Barack Obama, bashing Republicans, and poking fun at Bristol's boyfriend.So annoying.![]()
Date: 9/7/2008 9:28:52 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
Yeah, his onesidedness was so blatant and tasteless it made me turn the channel immediately! MTV, as a ''news source'' for some younger kids, used to take responsibility for unbiased reporting (although I always knew they leaned liberal) but it seems that that is now long gone. It seems more apt to just support whomever the celebrities are following around these days. I don''t react well to anyone criticizing our democracy, especially one who DOESN''T EVEN LIVE HERE.Date: 9/7/2008 9:22:31 PM
Author: luckystar112
Kind of off topic
I thought that I could take a mini break and watch a little bit of the VMAs tonight, and of course I''ve got some Brit (the host) telling everyone to vote for Barack Obama, bashing Republicans, and poking fun at Bristol''s boyfriend.So annoying.
He just showed himself to be a complete idiot IMHO.![]()
ETA: I''d feel that way if he was insulting to EITHER party/candidate/etc. The use of the word ''retarded'' right after he accuses people of being racist against Obama shows just how ignorant he is.