Yeah, it was so onesided against Republicans/Palin only (at least be equal opportunity in your insults if you''re trying to be funny and cite real issues). He was insulting to ALL Americans IMHO and he was very offensive to disabled people. He is an Englishman who doesn''t vote, live, or pay taxes here & I felt offended that he repeatedly implied stupidity of American voters. MTV couldn''t find anyone better this year?!
Haha I think we were posting at the same time!Date: 9/7/2008 9:42:20 PM
Author: luckystar112
Indy, I didn't even see your post above mine before I posted..I was so ticked off!
I just followed your lead and switched the channel.
Totally agree with everything you said. MTV has NO class.I can't believe they let him say those things on the air--calling our President Retarded, joking about masturbation, implying that we're all racists if we don't vote for Obama....disgusting.
One thing I noticed is that a lot of the crowd there just sat in disbelief as he was going on with his rant. I guess there is a silver lining. I think I would have puked if there was a standing ovation or something.
Date: 9/7/2008 9:25:14 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 9/7/2008 9:17:46 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
As a sign of the media frenzy surrounding Palin, I just listened to Russell Brand (some English personality hosting the MTV VMAs) insult Palin, her daughter, and her daughter''s boyfriend in his opening monologue. He also, of course, voiced his support for Obama and called Bush a ''retarded cowboy'' and went on about how the UK would never have elected him. I obviously don''t watch MTV for political analysis, but I just found it odd how transparent MTV made it''s support for only one candidate this election. I found everything he said offensive to Americans in general so I will not be watching the rest...back to football.
I''ve got some disturbing news for you, too. I took a summer politics class and we were discussing campaign advertising and MTV. And I said, ''Well..I don''t really see the point. MTV says it''s demographic is like 18-30, but it''s really like 15-20. So half of them can''t even vote. What''s the point? I mean who here actually watches MTV still anyway..I stopped in high school.'' annnnnd half my class raised their hand.So yaaaaaaay my/our generation is soaking that stuff up.
I have no problem w/ attacking people on legit issues, but random insults are so useless. I don''t like it when EITHER side does that.
Good, I hope they get an earful, although I don't think they'll change. My sister just told me the host just said another thing about the Republican party "forcing people to have babies." How lame.Date: 9/7/2008 9:57:27 PM
Author: luckystar112
I noticed the set up too! Pretty small venue compared to what they normally have.
Okay, so I think I'm going to write to MTV. I'm sure they are geting a ton of emails already and I just want to add to it!
ETA: The feedback on MTV's site is completely littered with unhappy people right now. I'm trying to sign up to comment and it is taking FOREVER. I hope their server crashes!
Date: 9/7/2008 9:53:58 PM
Author: luckystar112
Date: 9/7/2008 9:25:14 PM
Author: SarahLovesJS
Date: 9/7/2008 9:17:46 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
As a sign of the media frenzy surrounding Palin, I just listened to Russell Brand (some English personality hosting the MTV VMAs) insult Palin, her daughter, and her daughter''s boyfriend in his opening monologue. He also, of course, voiced his support for Obama and called Bush a ''retarded cowboy'' and went on about how the UK would never have elected him. I obviously don''t watch MTV for political analysis, but I just found it odd how transparent MTV made it''s support for only one candidate this election. I found everything he said offensive to Americans in general so I will not be watching the rest...back to football.
I''ve got some disturbing news for you, too. I took a summer politics class and we were discussing campaign advertising and MTV. And I said, ''Well..I don''t really see the point. MTV says it''s demographic is like 18-30, but it''s really like 15-20. So half of them can''t even vote. What''s the point? I mean who here actually watches MTV still anyway..I stopped in high school.'' annnnnd half my class raised their hand.So yaaaaaaay my/our generation is soaking that stuff up.I have no problem w/ attacking people on legit issues, but random insults are so useless. I don''t like it when EITHER side does that.
I''m 25 and I watch a handful of things on MTV...the hills, real world....that''s pretty much it. I certainly wouldn''t look to it as a news source so let''s hope that no one else does either.
This isn''t anything new with them though...I should have known better! Last election they gave Diddy and his ''vote or die'' campaign (a.k.a. vote for Kerry or die campaign), and I remember thinking it was so ridiculous.
Date: 9/7/2008 2:57:09 PM
Author: Ellen
I tend to think it''s indicative of the reason behind the saying, one shouldn''t discuss sex, religion or politics at parties.Date: 9/7/2008 11:48:48 AM
Author: miraclesrule
Date: 9/7/2008 12:30:38 AM
Author: HollyS
''It would be nice to get the hell away from America'' ??????
Maybe you and Michelle Obama can find a cozy little socialist enclave somewhere where you two can be free of the country neither of you can be proud of.And we can be free of you.
I know that it is very difficult for opposing sides not to come into this thread and ''defend'' their position.
I stuck around PS because I truly believed it to be a supportive environment in the spirit of ''INforum''ing'' yourself and others. This is usually based on informatin of a more factual basis that allows one to make a more informed decision. The experts and posters on this forum are invaluable for those looking to educate themselves. I can understand why it''s done for diamonds and large purchases, but believe it to be even more important for the next President and potential President should they need to step in and govern. I don''t understand why that same support is impossible in this thread. Is it indicative of why America is in the current rut?
Maintaining the status quo by posting ''Spin Opinion'' articles that are clearly part of smear campaigns and posting caustic remarks to a fellow PS''er such as this one I just read from Holly S make me feel sad because we all have a need to be heard and be understood. There is a way of being supportive and to respectfully disagree. There are also times when one should be capable of biting their tongue if their post is merely intended to insult, as I believe this post was. This is not in the spirit of Informing yourself or anyone else. We are capable of so much more light.
What did Jordin say? I''m watching sunset tan!Date: 9/7/2008 10:23:55 PM
Author: IndyGirl22
Good, I hope they get an earful, although I don''t think they''ll change. My sister just told me the host just said another thing about the Republican party ''forcing people to have babies.'' How lame.Date: 9/7/2008 9:57:27 PM
Author: luckystar112
I noticed the set up too! Pretty small venue compared to what they normally have.
Okay, so I think I''m going to write to MTV. I''m sure they are geting a ton of emails already and I just want to add to it!
ETA: The feedback on MTV''s site is completely littered with unhappy people right now. I''m trying to sign up to comment and it is taking FOREVER. I hope their server crashes!
ETA: LOL @ Jordin Sparks slamming the host for making fun of promise rings!
ETAA: I guess this guy used to be a VJ but then was fired when HE CAME TO WORK DRESSED AS OSAMA BIN LADEN the day after 9/11...why MTV would hire him on as a host for the VMAs is beyond me...
Date: 9/7/2008 9:57:27 PM
Author: luckystar112
ETAA: I guess this guy used to be a VJ but then was fired when HE CAME TO WORK DRESSED AS OSAMA BIN LADEN the day after 9/11...why MTV would hire him on as a host for the VMAs is beyond me...
Date: 9/7/2008 10:52:10 PM
Author: miraclesrule
Date: 9/7/2008 2:57:09 PM
Author: Ellen
I tend to think it''s indicative of the reason behind the saying, one shouldn''t discuss sex, religion or politics at parties.Date: 9/7/2008 11:48:48 AM
Author: miraclesrule
Date: 9/7/2008 12:30:38 AM
Author: HollyS
''It would be nice to get the hell away from America'' ??????
Maybe you and Michelle Obama can find a cozy little socialist enclave somewhere where you two can be free of the country neither of you can be proud of.And we can be free of you.
I know that it is very difficult for opposing sides not to come into this thread and ''defend'' their position.
I stuck around PS because I truly believed it to be a supportive environment in the spirit of ''INforum''ing'' yourself and others. This is usually based on informatin of a more factual basis that allows one to make a more informed decision. The experts and posters on this forum are invaluable for those looking to educate themselves. I can understand why it''s done for diamonds and large purchases, but believe it to be even more important for the next President and potential President should they need to step in and govern. I don''t understand why that same support is impossible in this thread. Is it indicative of why America is in the current rut?
Maintaining the status quo by posting ''Spin Opinion'' articles that are clearly part of smear campaigns and posting caustic remarks to a fellow PS''er such as this one I just read from Holly S make me feel sad because we all have a need to be heard and be understood. There is a way of being supportive and to respectfully disagree. There are also times when one should be capable of biting their tongue if their post is merely intended to insult, as I believe this post was. This is not in the spirit of Informing yourself or anyone else. We are capable of so much more light.
That would pretty much leave me out of the conversation at the dinner table.
Date: 9/7/2008 11:06:49 PM
Author: trillionaire
LOL, this commentary strikes me as ironic on a thread about Palin, since much of what you describe 'cowboys, six shooters and open land' are what she is aiming to represent.
We aren't 'allowed' to talk race on this forum, so I will immediately get off the horse, but if a black woman, let's say, Michelle Obama, was in pictures with an assault rifle, end of story. If Michelle Obama was part of a cessionist party, end of story.
THAT, my friends, is hypocrisy. I will not be responding to or defending this particular post, because forum rules disallow, and I would like the thread to continue. Take it as you will, as food for thought.
GO 'SC!!!!
I don't think you're reading the post in the context in which it was written (maybe). FWIW, I don't think being pro-2nd Amendment or an avid hunter (which can be done responsibly & used to be the norm in the US) = cowboys w/six shooters. DF was simply replying to the fact that some British wahoo was insulting our country, as a whole IMHO, by pretty much calling us stupid for electing a "retarded cowboy," adding to the negative stereotype other countries have of America to begin with. Of course, if you think Palin is being more favorably by the media than Michelle would in the same position you are entitled to that opinion.Date: 9/7/2008 11:06:49 PM
Author: trillionaire
LOL, this commentary strikes me as ironic on a thread about Palin, since much of what you describe 'cowboys, six shooters and open land' are what she is aiming to represent.
We aren't 'allowed' to talk race on this forum, so I will immediately get off the horse, but if a black woman, let's say, Michelle Obama, was in pictures with an assault rifle, end of story. If Michelle Obama was part of a cessionist party, end of story.
THAT, my friends, is hypocrisy. I will not be responding to or defending this particular post, because forum rules disallow, and I would like the thread to continue. Take it as you will, as food for thought.
GO 'SC!!!!
Date: 9/7/2008 11:06:49 PM
Author: trillionaire
LOL, this commentary strikes me as ironic on a thread about Palin, since much of what you describe ''cowboys, six shooters and open land'' are what she is aiming to represent.
We aren''t ''allowed'' to talk race on this forum, so I will immediately get off the horse, but if a black woman, let''s say, Michelle Obama, was in pictures with an assault rifle, end of story. If Michelle Obama was part of a cessionist party, end of story.
THAT, my friends, is hypocrisy. I will not be responding to or defending this particular post, because forum rules disallow, and I would like the thread to continue. Take it as you will, as food for thought.
GO ''SC!!!!
Date: 9/7/2008 11:28:46 PM
Author: luckystar112
I just want to fix my mistake...
I thought that the reader comments about the VMAs were up to 5000, but that was really a total of all comments from the beginning of the blog (which opened a few months ago). About 1200 are VMA related...JUST on the feedback blog.
There is also a lot on the live blog.
I just flipped it on MTV again and as soon as I did I just heard Russel Brand making fun of chastity rings again.
Figures.
Then Perez came on and stuck up for the Jonas Brothers for following their values. This is a man who was calling Bristol Palin a sl*t and a wh*re on his site the day her pregnancy was made public.
Makes me so sick. And sad.
"Consider the source" and that''s all I have to say about that. (/www.pricescope.com/idealbb/images/smilies/2.gif[/img]Date: 9/7/2008 11:28:46 PM
Author: luckystar112
I just want to fix my mistake...
I thought that the reader comments about the VMAs were up to 5000, but that was really a total of all comments from the beginning of the blog (which opened a few months ago). About 1200 are VMA related...JUST on the feedback blog.
There is also a lot on the live blog.
I just flipped it on MTV again and as soon as I did I just heard Russel Brand making fun of chastity rings again.
Figures.
Then Perez came on and stuck up for the Jonas Brothers for following their values. This is a man who was calling Bristol Palin a sl*t and a wh*re on his site the day her pregnancy was made public.
Makes me so sick. And sad.
BF has. Should I read it?Date: 9/7/2008 11:03:15 PM
Author: miraclesrule
Karen, please don''t leave PS and me...especially for needlework.( I just ordered that book your hub is jonsing for)
I already had a bad day. Chargers lost in the last 2 seconds of the game. Brady (who was my fantasy football QB), was carted off the field in the first quarter, and then I came home and saw your post.
Your intelligent eloquence feeds my mind. I don''t want it to starve. Boo.....
(Karen will be back....she''ll be back....she''ll be back...)<----------- meditative intention.
Speaking of books and popular culture ala MTV, has anyone read Freakonomics?
Um. As far as I know (and it''s pretty well, because I''ve been reading it for a LONG time) Perez calls everyone sl*ts and wh*res when he doesn''t like them. And he flip flops on liking people ALL of the time, so basically he''s called most people those names. I think he calls them that even when he does like them sometimes.Date: 9/7/2008 11:44:10 PM
Author: miraclesrule
''Consider the source'' and that''s all I have to say about that. (<----in my best Forrest Gump impersonation)Date: 9/7/2008 11:28:46 PM
Author: luckystar112
I just want to fix my mistake...
I thought that the reader comments about the VMAs were up to 5000, but that was really a total of all comments from the beginning of the blog (which opened a few months ago). About 1200 are VMA related...JUST on the feedback blog.
There is also a lot on the live blog.
I just flipped it on MTV again and as soon as I did I just heard Russel Brand making fun of chastity rings again.
Figures.
Then Perez came on and stuck up for the Jonas Brothers for following their values. This is a man who was calling Bristol Palin a sl*t and a wh*re on his site the day her pregnancy was made public.
Makes me so sick. And sad.
I just got it from a friend yesterday. Her PhD brother gave it to her and told her it was a "must read". She said it made her reconsider the way she analyzed things in the past. She gave a few provocative examples and it definately made me look forward to reading it.Date: 9/7/2008 11:46:18 PM
Author: FrekeChild
BF has. Should I read it?Date: 9/7/2008 11:03:15 PM
Author: miraclesrule
Karen, please don't leave PS and me...especially for needlework.( I just ordered that book your hub is jonsing for)
I already had a bad day. Chargers lost in the last 2 seconds of the game. Brady (who was my fantasy football QB), was carted off the field in the first quarter, and then I came home and saw your post.
Your intelligent eloquence feeds my mind. I don't want it to starve. Boo.....
(Karen will be back....she'll be back....she'll be back...)<----------- meditative intention.
Speaking of books and popular culture ala MTV, has anyone read Freakonomics?
Date: 9/7/2008 11:55:42 PM
Author: FrekeChild
Um. As far as I know (and it''s pretty well, because I''ve been reading it for a LONG time) Perez calls everyone sl*ts and wh*res when he doesn''t like them. And he flip flops on liking people ALL of the time, so basically he''s called most people those names. I think he calls them that even when he does like them sometimes.Date: 9/7/2008 11:44:10 PM
Author: miraclesrule
''Consider the source'' and that''s all I have to say about that. (<----in my best Forrest Gump impersonation)Date: 9/7/2008 11:28:46 PM
Author: luckystar112
I just want to fix my mistake...
I thought that the reader comments about the VMAs were up to 5000, but that was really a total of all comments from the beginning of the blog (which opened a few months ago). About 1200 are VMA related...JUST on the feedback blog.
There is also a lot on the live blog.
I just flipped it on MTV again and as soon as I did I just heard Russel Brand making fun of chastity rings again.
Figures.
Then Perez came on and stuck up for the Jonas Brothers for following their values. This is a man who was calling Bristol Palin a sl*t and a wh*re on his site the day her pregnancy was made public.
Makes me so sick. And sad.
I say, it''s Perez being Perez, and that means squat to me.
BTW, as a former waitress (and I''m sure not the only one)...I have beenat some of the comments made on this thread.
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