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FBIL budget ring continues.

I logged in just to say that I'm completely impressed with what you've done with the budget! 0.45 is not small, my ring is 0.47, and I paid way more than that for a similar quality ring about 9 years ago. You're working miracles with a $750 budget! I get that cut is important, but most of us put size up way up there as well. This is a great compromise of getting the size with a diamond that should be eye clear and near colourless to the naked eye for the average person. I'd imagine a lot of us would choose a 0.45 carat rather than a 0.25 - 0.31 which looks like what you can afford in your price range when you move up colour and clarity.
 
Thanks guys.

To Christina.... no I haven't checked with them yet by email. Looked at their site but that was it. The thing is that I lucked out because already there aren't going to be a lot of well cut ks at that size, and even fewer with eye clean si2.... all the other ones have inclusions that are down right ugly.


Bcat. That's I'm glad you said that because that's how I feel, but as someone with smaller k color stones I think I come off as bias. I do think at that size the color will not be an issue. There's a certain size where color becomes more important, I don't think 5mm is it. And yeah the upgrade I think is invaluable as its not a rediculous concept to pay twice that, even if its in a short tim.... but right now it just isn't in the cards.

Rhea, thanks for your input!! I agree I think you'd be hard pressed to find an average person would find more beauty in a 5mm K than a 3.5 mm H....


Can't wait for the IS
 
bastetcat|1375892168|3498288 said:
Honestly, a 1/2ct plus setting for under $800, with a 60 day return and an upgrade policy I think is a miracle. See what the IS says. The good thing about the upgrade policy here is while I generally have issues with the "spend double" requirements, in this case it won't be hard to meet. I don't personally think a stone this size is going to be an issue with color, but if it does turn out to the be the case, you do have some options (returns and upgrades) which you would most likely NOT have working second hand or with an antique ring purchase. Given the serious constraints you have had with size requirements and budget requirements, I do believe you've probably hit the best option for the current time.

In other words, you're a rock star... (sorry, I couldn't resist). :roll:

I went back (again) and looked at the video. I think it's a very pretty, well-cut stone. And it's way nicer than most stones I see here in Wyoming. I am very impressed that you found this needle in the haystack.
 
Neil, just popping in to say I think you've done an amazing job creating a beautiful ring while working within a small budget! I'm no expert but I don't think you could do much better! The fact that you own k colored stones, have had them set in yg and have been pleased with the color is all the proof I need that this stone will work out well. The upgade policy is such a nice perk too.

The only thing I can think of is to check out IDJ as Christina suggested, mainly just to know that you explored every conceivable possibility! If you have the energy left that is, you've been working really hard on this. But I do think you have a winner here!
 
I was taking a break and thought I'd spend some time working on this for you....give you a bit of break while you wait for JA to get information for you and such. Anyway, I came across this stone....it goes without saying that we have no idea if it's eye clean yet or not, but the dimensions look really good. I ran it through AGA and granted I had to guess the crown height (I used 12%) but it came back as 3A, but only because of the girdle thickness and I don't think that it's unusual for an oval to have a thick girdle? But, B2C will provide images and an inspection of the stone and it would give great finger coverage if set east/west in rose gold. :love: Also very popular right now. Food for thought anyway, and I thought that it might give you something to do until JA gets back to you. =)
 
Lol I'd love to see what's the link??
 
Niel|1375898697|3498353 said:
Lol I'd love to see what's the link??


:loopy: yeah, I stayed up drinking with a friend today and it shows! :lol:

here you go...

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd-3272951-0.53-carat-Oval-diamond-K-color-SI2-clarity.aspx

I wonder if we could find an inexpensive bezel setting in RG? :love: Ummm...can't think of her name right now but she's popular on DB and offers settings at a reasonable price....you know who I'm thinking of.....

ok...NO...I meant last night NOT today! :lol: told you I was out of sorts!! :lol:
 
Oh yah poppyseed! I had gotten in touch with her about that exactly, only for a marquise (e/w) when we though she was into marquise. But it was out of budget.
 
Niel|1375899738|3498363 said:
Oh yah poppyseed! I had gotten in touch with her about that exactly, only for a marquise (e/w) when we though she was into marquise. But it was out of budget.


yes poppyseed! thanks, that would have driven me crazy all day. Did you see the .48 D I1 oval on JA? There is very little information on it, not even the report. I'm on a new laptop and the screen is taking some getting use to but, to me, it looks quite clean...although I'm not sure that it's going to be appear any larger on the finger than the RB you already found.http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/0.48-carat-d-color-i1-clarity-sku-195662

edit: actually I take that back, it would be a full mm larger.
 
Christina... said:
Niel|1375899738|3498363 said:
Oh yah poppyseed! I had gotten in touch with her about that exactly, only for a marquise (e/w) when we though she was into marquise. But it was out of budget.


yes poppyseed! thanks, that would have driven me crazy all day. Did you see the .48 D I1 oval on JA? There is very little information on it, not even the report. I'm on a new laptop and the screen is taking some getting use to but, to me, it looks quite clean...although I'm not sure that it's going to be appear any larger on the finger than the RB you already found.http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/0.48-carat-d-color-i1-clarity-sku-195662

edit: actually I take that back, it would be a full mm larger.

I had see that! My concern was how mushy it looked in the middle, and a bowtie .... I guess I could have them review it what's the harm.
 
Niel|1375900418|3498376 said:
Christina... said:
Niel|1375899738|3498363 said:
Oh yah poppyseed! I had gotten in touch with her about that exactly, only for a marquise (e/w) when we though she was into marquise. But it was out of budget.


yes poppyseed! thanks, that would have driven me crazy all day. Did you see the .48 D I1 oval on JA? There is very little information on it, not even the report. I'm on a new laptop and the screen is taking some getting use to but, to me, it looks quite clean...although I'm not sure that it's going to be appear any larger on the finger than the RB you already found.http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/oval-cut/0.48-carat-d-color-i1-clarity-sku-195662

edit: actually I take that back, it would be a full mm larger.

I had see that! My concern was how mushy it looked in the middle, and a bowtie .... I guess I could have them review it what's the harm.


yeah know, I don't know what I think about a oval or marquis with a bow tie. I don't really have enough experience, but according to some, I think Jonathon spoke about this in an article or thread somewhere, that a bow tie across the belly can create large fire flashes. I agree that they look unappealing in static images, but any that I have actually seen IRL, when on the hand and moving, the bow tie just sort of disappears and you just see light performance similar to an RB. In my limited experience ovals tend to have more white light return, so having a bit of bow tie, if what I read is true, could a benefit adding colored light into the mix. I'd like to hear what others with more experience have to say.

I agree though, it would hurt to ask them to take a quick visual and see if they are impressed or not right? it's nice to have options. I don't think I even asked....does she like an oval?
 
I've been thinking about your search. I really love what you've found. She could add side stones someday if she wanted more sparkle but was sentimental about the original stone. Seems like a slam dunk!

That oval is intriguing too but I'm not sure about their upgrade policy which is important in this case.
 
I don't know if you noticed bit I bought a dirt cheap marquise over eBay. 800 bucks.

It does have a bowtie, also is low in color, as I suspect that's why, along with the unpopular shape and low clarity, that it was so cheap. I found it while hunting for my bil.

Anyways. Taking pictures is a PITA the bowtie eats up the color of my phone. But on its own its quite beautiful and does get good fire flashes. But again, cannot get a close up shot. But I'd like to avoid one as I don't know her opinion on them KWIM?

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Cluless|1375907311|3498443 said:
Niel first off I love what you found and really hope she doesn't mind the J color I have an I and wish it was warmer lol, but I just had to share this find with you because of the price I now it's a smaller stone but still......

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ROUND-CUT-DIAMOND-ENGAGEMENT-RING-35-CW-VS1-14K-ILLUSION-SET-/231029512185?pt=Diamond_Solitaire_Rings&hash=item35ca6e97f9

Wow that is a steal!! I was so sad when he said no yellow gold. All those lovely eBay finds we had just ended up being for nothing! ;(

I'm thinking we need a thread "engagment rings under $X00" like the band one someone started. There's so many steals out there!!

I am glad at least she like rose gold. White gold half ct seems so typical for a lady who is anything but :lol:
 
nowicanseethemoon|1375896956|3498337 said:
bastetcat|1375892168|3498288 said:
Honestly, a 1/2ct plus setting for under $800, with a 60 day return and an upgrade policy I think is a miracle. See what the IS says. The good thing about the upgrade policy here is while I generally have issues with the "spend double" requirements, in this case it won't be hard to meet. I don't personally think a stone this size is going to be an issue with color, but if it does turn out to the be the case, you do have some options (returns and upgrades) which you would most likely NOT have working second hand or with an antique ring purchase. Given the serious constraints you have had with size requirements and budget requirements, I do believe you've probably hit the best option for the current time.

In other words, you're a rock star... (sorry, I couldn't resist). :roll:

I went back (again) and looked at the video. I think it's a very pretty, well-cut stone. And it's way nicer than most stones I see here in Wyoming. I am very impressed that you found this needle in the haystack.

For the price...I don't think you could do better. I say its a winner!
 
Rosebloom|1375901375|3498391 said:
That oval is intriguing too but I'm not sure about their upgrade policy which is important in this case.


I agree 100%!
 
bastetcat|1375911118|3498490 said:
Rosebloom|1375901375|3498391 said:
That oval is intriguing too but I'm not sure about their upgrade policy which is important in this case.


I agree 100%!

Ugh I just don't k ow that looks so dead just E/w of the bowtie.
 
Niel|1375911492|3498500 said:
bastetcat|1375911118|3498490 said:
Rosebloom|1375901375|3498391 said:
That oval is intriguing too but I'm not sure about their upgrade policy which is important in this case.


I agree 100%!

Ugh I just don't k ow that looks so dead just E/w of the bowtie.

Honestly, as long as the IS looks good, I'd go with what you've got. It's the "safest" and best thought out option you have with the most possibilities in the long term.
 
Niel|1375901978|3498398 said:
I don't know if you noticed bit I bought a dirt cheap marquise over eBay. 800 bucks.

It does have a bowtie, also is low in color, as I suspect that's why, along with the unpopular shape and low clarity, that it was so cheap. I found it while hunting for my bil.

Anyways. Taking pictures is a PITA the bowtie eats up the color of my phone. But on its own its quite beautiful and does get good fire flashes. But again, cannot get a close up shot. But I'd like to avoid one as I don't know her opinion on them KWIM?


I feel absolutely horrible that I haven't responded to your thread about the amazing marquise. I've meant to a zillion times, but I've had a horrible time with phones and laptops this week and actually ended up having to buy one of each! Yikes there goes the balance of my bling fund! :nono: But congratulations are in order..that is a fabulous diamond for a fabulous price! Too bad she wasn't a marquise fan! I actually have one too!! Its not a fabulous cut but it has good color and clarity. I haven't decided quite what to do with it though. :confused: I thought about a dbty pendant with alternating rubies or sapphires and using the marquise as the clasp knim...well I actually can't take credit for the idea Yssie thought of it, but it's the one project option that has resonated with me. I actually really like a fat marquise...we have 'roval' so I guess it's time to coin a phrase for chubby marquises that border on oval. thoughts??

oh as far as that oval goes....ask! I wouldn't hurt to ask right?? ;))
 
Christina...|1375917786|3498579 said:
Niel|1375901978|3498398 said:
I don't know if you noticed bit I bought a dirt cheap marquise over eBay. 800 bucks.

It does have a bowtie, also is low in color, as I suspect that's why, along with the unpopular shape and low clarity, that it was so cheap. I found it while hunting for my bil.

Anyways. Taking pictures is a PITA the bowtie eats up the color of my phone. But on its own its quite beautiful and does get good fire flashes. But again, cannot get a close up shot. But I'd like to avoid one as I don't know her opinion on them KWIM?


I feel absolutely horrible that I haven't responded to your thread about the amazing marquise. I've meant to a zillion times, but I've had a horrible time with phones and laptops this week and actually ended up having to buy one of each! Yikes there goes the balance of my bling fund! :nono: But congratulations are in order..that is a fabulous diamond for a fabulous price! Too bad she wasn't a marquise fan! I actually have one too!! Its not a fabulous cut but it has good color and clarity. I haven't decided quite what to do with it though. :confused: I thought about a dbty pendant with alternating rubies or sapphires and using the marquise as the clasp knim...well I actually can't take credit for the idea Yssie thought of it, but it's the one project option that has resonated with me. I actually really like a fat marquise...we have 'roval' so I guess it's time to coin a phrase for chubby marquises that border on oval. thoughts??

oh as far as that oval goes....ask! I wouldn't hurt to ask right?? ;))

marqoval???? :lol: :lol:
 
Oh yes we have a word for it, its "chubbquise" "or chubkies" :lol: :lol: :lol:

I tried really hard to find a chubby one. This one is normal with a slight bit on the chubbier side, which was as thin as I was willing to go. I think a chubkies is so modern and cool! So different than the 80s slivers...
 
oops, sorry, didn't realize you needed upgrade
 
autumngems|1375971119|3498953 said:
oops, sorry, didn't realize you needed upgrade

I don't in theory, but have to weigh the pros and coins you know? 571 for a 5mm stone with the possibility of an upgrade. Or a 5mm with a little better color, but no upgrade and more money. Kwim
 
autumngems said:

I would not go with Whiteflash. That stone is noticeably smaller for more money (or the same depending on the discount) and there most plain setting is 200 more than James Allen.

Size is most important here. He's not really willing to spend that kind of money on a 0.3 ct. But of we were wed probably go JA.

But I appreciate your search!! As you can see its not an easy one
 
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