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F SI1 - Should I purchase?

Philter|1389398366|3590615 said:
Gary H thanks for taking the time to check out my diamonds and helping me to make an informed decision, I appreciate it. I've attached some better quality images so that you can see the measurements and give me your opinion. I have run them both through your tool and the F definitely looks like the better cut, and if you believe it's eye clean then it is probably the winner, however I'm interested to hear your thoughts.

I haven't been able to get hold of the Ideal-Scope images, I'm hoping they can send them over.

Thanks again.
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the proportions indicate that the second stone is probably shallower then the GIA rounded numbers and 56% is better than 59% table size (But 59 is not a train wreck either)
there were fluoro issues.
so both are great candidates
 
Did you mean 'no fluoro issues?....just checking.
 
Thanks Garry H.

Given they are both great candidates, would you buy the F or the G Diamond?
 
one or both stones had med or strogn blue fluoro?
did you check that out for haziness with the vendor?

otherwise i have no other information to seperate which is best
 
They are really discounted diamonds , the price seems to good to be true if its retail .So I would therefore get a second opinion perhaps on the florescence to check for haziness.
 
Treasurehunter, I found them online at Bluenile and have them reserved, I just need to make a decision which one to purchase once I see some more photos.

I'll post the photos for you to check out when they come through. Thanks.
 
the prices on blue nile for 2ct F/SI1 Ideal cut, Strong flor is 20,600 us , how did you get a cheaper price?
 
treasurehunter|1389490809|3591153 said:
the prices on blue nile for 2ct F/SI1 Ideal cut, Strong flor is 20,600 us , how did you get a cheaper price?
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That's the listed price Treasurehunter, that's why I am so keen on purchasing it. I've been looking for something like this for a while and when I saw it I got onto it straight away. It looks like great value to me, but I still need more photos of it to be convinced (if it's too good to be true, it often is).
 
I couldn't find it do you have a link , I won't buy it don't worry haha
 
I've got them reserved so the link has been disabled.
 
Did you ask why the price difference?
 
Im thinking that perhaps they are priced cheaply because of milkiness due to florescence…
 
Philter|1389494522|3591188 said:
treasurehunter|1389490809|3591153 said:
the prices on blue nile for 2ct F/SI1 Ideal cut, Strong flor is 20,600 us , how did you get a cheaper price?
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That's the listed price Treasurehunter, that's why I am so keen on purchasing it. I've been looking for something like this for a while and when I saw it I got onto it straight away. It looks like great value to me, but I still need more photos of it to be convinced (if it's too good to be true, it often is).
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You can always buy it, then return it if you don't like it.
 
Here are some more images of the F SI1 2.00 XXX Holloway 1.4 Strong Blue Fluoro. I've also included the first image I received for reference.

Notes from the dealer - "This diamond has been confirmed as 100 % eye clean without pressure sensitive inclusions with excellent lustre."

I notice the slight blue tinge at 5 o'clock, I'm not sure if that's just from the camera?

Let me know what you think. Should I purchase this diamond?

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f_si1_0.jpg
 
You still haven't said whether you like the effect of fluorescence. For you, does it come down to that, all clarity, size and cut issues aside? It seems like you keep coming back whether you can see it and it sounds like you keep hoping you won't see any effects. With strong blue fluor, I doubt you will be able to get away with not seeing any. I don't mean cloudiness. I mean the blue in sunlight. If you don't like it, I don't think you should buy it. What is the point of paying a good price on something you don't really want? That's not a bargain.

If you do like the blue fluor, or are neutral, then I would say go for it.
 
LLJsmom I don't mind fluorescence, but I do mind milkiness and cloudiness. So long as it doesn't effect the brilliance of the diamond a don't mind a very mild blue tinge in sunlight. My eye is not as well trained as many on this forum, and for this reason I've posted as many images as possible so that an expert may be able to tell me if this stone is 'milky' or not.

There's no doubting all of it's other qualities would lead me to buy it, but before I invest this amount of money on a diamond I'd rather check with the experts and get a qualified opinion then rely on my own instincts. If I can assure myself, via these photos and experts opinions that this this stone is not milky or cloudy then I'll commit to buy it.

Thanks for your help.
 
Philter|1389567373|3591589 said:
LLJsmom I don't mind fluorescence, but I do mind milkiness and cloudiness. So long as it doesn't effect the brilliance of the diamond a don't mind a very mild blue tinge in sunlight. My eye is not as well trained as many on this forum, and for this reason I've posted as many images as possible so that an expert may be able to tell me if this stone is 'milky' or not.

There's no doubting all of it's other qualities would lead me to buy it, but before I invest this amount of money on a diamond I'd rather check with the experts and get a qualified opinion then rely on my own instincts. If I can assure myself, via these photos and experts opinions that this this stone is not milky or cloudy then I'll commit to buy it.

Thanks for your help.
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The vendor used the term Excellent Luster, which is a trade term for no milky / hazy.
The only thing i would add is that you have a return policy, but be sure to either have an appraiser check for haziness, or do your own testing with a comparison non fluoro diamond in SHADED DAYLIGHT. Not ever direct sunlight.
The stone may go blueish in direct sunlight (which most think is cool) but have no other effect in other lighting other than making the stone appear to be whiter than white = blue white (Karl the FTC have on power over me, but might nab me next time I come across the pacific!!!)
 
Thanks again Garry H. I'm going to take all of your advice as a recommendation to buy the F stone. I'll talk to the vendor soon and ensure it can be returned/upgraded, then commit to buy. I'm extremely grateful for all of your help.

Are you based in Victoria, Australia? That's where I am. Perhaps when I receive the diamond I can have you appraise it for me?
 
Yes, I can do that for a standard valuation consultation.
110-114 Canterbury Rd
Canterbury
9830 5600
 
Garry H that's perfect, I'll bring it in as soon as it arrives.
 
I bought the 2.00 F SI1 for $18,740 USD. I think this is great value.

Thanks to everyone for your help and advice, I'll let you know my thoughts when it arrives.
 
I'm glad you bought that diamond.
Reading this thread was driving me insane with impatience.
I'll be interested to hear from you when you've got it in front of you. :)
My guess is that the clarity and fluor will cause you no probs whatsoever.
 
Congrats!
 
My Diamond arrived from Blue Nile and I absolutely love it (I'm positive my girlfriend will too). It's everything I'd hoped it would be, all of the research and this forum's help paid off, and considering I got myself a 2.00 carat F SI1 XXX Holloway 1.6 for only $18,740US I think I got an incredible deal.

I have to give credit to Blue Nile and Diane who took me through the deal, getting me plenty of photos and info about the diamond, it was very well handled. I'm in Australia, I did a simple internet transaction into their Australian based Bank Of America account and 6 days later the diamond arrived, beautifully boxed. Communication was commendable and I would definitely recommend using Blue Nile.

My concern about the fluorescence (strong blue) was an overreaction, there was nothing to worry about. From what I can tell it has no effect on the brilliance of the stone, I've checked it out in all lighting conditions (inside and out) and it's just as great in all. If there is one thing I learnt, a lot of the quality comes down to the cut and proportions.

Thanks to Garry H for your help, I'll come to get you to check out the diamond and look for a setting to show it off in.

I've included some photos I took of the diamond, inside under lights and outside in the sun, please note that the ring is not set, it's merely in tensioner.

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1 more photo.

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Congrats , good stone smart grade
 
Great stone!

How much did you pay for this again?
I am also considering a stone with "very strong blue" fluorescence on the GIA report and wanted to get your thoughts on how you feel about it after having the diamond in person. Thanks.
 
You should probably read this whole thread as that is just what we went through.
 
Beautiful stone!
 
I'm so glad you picked the right stone. I didn't love the look of the G colored one.
Now, the setting. We can't wait to see what you set that stunner in!
 
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