Emerald cut opinions please

[leasj1]

I do indeed. they are in the Sarin of each diamond when clicked on the links

0.66ct - 5.86x4.16x2.74 - 1.41Ratio
0.71ct - 5.84 x 4.25 x 2.84 - 1.37 ratio

 

[leasj1]

Arghh I posted a reply but its not showed up with all the dimensions.

I think the dimensions are in the sarin reports inside the links.

1.41 ratio - 066 ct
1.37 ratio - 0.71ct

 

[LuvTheGlitter]

what is putting me off is the price seems alittle bit more expensive in comparison with comparable diamonds on other sites? I understand the 0.66 is an IF and I would imagine that would increase the price a lot?

I don't know how much more of a price you're seeing, but keep in mind 2 things: well cut stones do tend to cost a bit more, and add to the fact that GOG are offering you a pretty high level of service.

 

[Matthews1127]

The 0.66ct, indeed, has great spread!
Do you have a preference?

 

[LuvTheGlitter]

I don't know how much more of a price you're seeing, but keep in mind 2 things: well cut stones do tend to cost a bit more, and add to the fact that GOG are offering you a pretty high level of service.

Wow, and a quick glance on JamesAllen indicates the 0.66 is right on par, price wise. I don't know where you're looking.

 

[leasj1]

The 0.66ct, indeed, has great spread!
Do you have a preference?

I actually don’t have a preference. I think they are both lovely. Do you prefer the 0.66ct one more? If so why?

Would you say they are nicer than the JA ones listed at the start of the thread?

 

[leasj1]

Wow, and a quick glance on JamesAllen indicates the 0.66 is right on par, price wise. I don't know where you're looking.

Sorry I seem to have caused some offence to you. I apologise. Like I’ve mentioned I’m not a diamond expert so forgive my ignorance.

The reason I thought that is due to the comparison with the 3 stones I listed in my first post.

 

[Matthews1127]

I actually don’t have a preference. I think they are both lovely. Do you prefer the 0.66ct one more? If so why?

Would you say they are nicer than the JA ones listed at the start of the thread?

GOG has an outstanding reputation concerning step-Cuts. The fact that you have 2 nearly identical looking EC’s, and the lighter one has great spread causes me to lean toward the 0.66ct. However, both are equally beautiful & great quality. Either one would be perfect. l’m not as familiar with JA quality pertaining to EC’s. They have a good reputation, as well...but GOG seems to be “a cut above”, when dealing with step Cuts.
If it were ME, l’d jump on either of the 2 GOG Stones....

 

[OoohShiny]

It might be worth checking out http://gemconcepts.net/ if you're looking for a specific cut style - Yoram may be able to cut you something to your exact preference!

 

[Matthews1127]

It might be worth checking out http://gemconcepts.net/ if you're looking for a specific cut style - Yoram may be able to cut you something to your exact preference!

Yoram is fantastic! If you can go the custom route, reach out to him!! If not custom, he may be able to find something in the boutique just for you! Highly recommend him!!!

 

[ratatat]

Sorry if I missed it, but what kind of setting are you after?

 

[leasj1]

Hi Ooohshiny, thanks for that but Im not particularly looking for a custom cut diamond. I really don't know enough about them to go down that route. I just would like a great EC diamond for my budget.

Ratatat, the setting I'm after is something as close as I can get to:
http://www.cartier.com/en-us/collec...itaire-1895/h4209000-1895-solitaire-ring.html

Im swaying more towards the 0.66ct from GOG. Although I keep changing my mind with the two.

 

[OoohShiny]

Hi Ooohshiny, thanks for that but Im not particularly looking for a custom cut diamond. I really don't know enough about them to go down that route. I just would like a great EC diamond for my budget.

The great thing about @diagem / Yoram of gemconcepts is that he and his team are highly skilled cutters who have cut many PSer's diamonds - he and his team are (AFAIK) the only people cutting the Octavia diamond, which was brought to the market after being developed by @Karl_K of this board (who started as just a plain old forum member) and then cut by Yoram.

Yoram cuts diamonds for beauty, not weight, so you may pay a little extra for a given size (because you 'waste' a larger amount of rough diamond that is priced by the maximum weight of cut diamond a cutter could get out of it) but you know it is going to perform extremely well.

This is his 'antique' emerald cut, with... "key details includ[ing] the correctly applied corner breaks, which are proportionately cut to complement the length to width ratio of the gem, a higher crown, and each one of our Emerald Cuts boasts an open/polished culet.":
http://gemconcepts.net/old-emerald-cut-diamond/
and you can see his work in motion here, on a square Emerald cut:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BRV6iYZDIaY/?taken-by=gemconcepts

This is his Octavia page:
http://gemconcepts.net/octavia-diamond/
and you can see them in videos from GOG:

Drop him a line - he may have something in stock or be able to tell you what he could do for you @Matthews1127 recently had some custom cuts done by him and loves them!

 

[ratatat]

Ratatat, the setting I'm after is something as close as I can get to:
http://www.cartier.com/en-us/collec...itaire-1895/h4209000-1895-solitaire-ring.html

Ah right, sorry you did post that before, I thought you were just after an emerald like that and didn’t realize you liked the setting too. Looks good!

 

[leasj1]

Ooohshiny, those diamonds look lovely. Ive kind of got my heart set on going with GOG and one those ECs that they are looking out for me. Its more the look I'm preferring (and hopefully my other half) right now.

GOG has called in two more as attached. The 0.66ct that was I liked previously is included also on the far right of the video and included below.

Video

L-R in video:


0.70 FVS1 (#16346)

https://www.goodoldgold.com/0-70ct-fvs1-emerald-cut-diamond


0.70 FVS1 (#16345)

https://www.goodoldgold.com/0-70-fvs1-emerald-diamond


0.66 EIF (1633

https://www.goodoldgold.com/0-66ct-e-if-emerald-cut-diamond


Whats your thoughts on these, my own feelings are the 0.66ct still is the better of the 3. But please give your honest opinions on them all.

My budget is approx $3500 and the setting is coming in around $1100. The stones listed up are coming in at the $2100 mark approx. Am I going to see a noticeable improvement going to $2400 do you think?

 

[LawmaLlama]

I agree, the .66 is the best of the three. Second choice would be the first .7fvs1 (not the middle one in the video). I think you'll be pleased either way. Go for it and get that lovely set before the holidays! Good luck!

 

[Mondayschild]

My eyes are drawn to the 0.66

 

[DauphineMucha]

I agree, the .66 is the best of the three. Second choice would be the first .7fvs1 (not the middle one in the video).

Yes, I agree too!

 

[Matthews1127]

Ooohshiny, those diamonds look lovely. Ive kind of got my heart set on going with GOG and one those ECs that they are looking out for me. Its more the look I'm preferring (and hopefully my other half) right now.

GOG has called in two more as attached. The 0.66ct that was I liked previously is included also on the far right of the video and included below.

Video

L-R in video:


0.70 FVS1 (#16346)

https://www.goodoldgold.com/0-70ct-fvs1-emerald-cut-diamond


0.70 FVS1 (#16345)

https://www.goodoldgold.com/0-70-fvs1-emerald-diamond


0.66 EIF (1633

https://www.goodoldgold.com/0-66ct-e-if-emerald-cut-diamond


Whats your thoughts on these, my own feelings are the 0.66ct still is the better of the 3. But please give your honest opinions on them all.

My budget is approx $3500 and the setting is coming in around $1100. The stones listed up are coming in at the $2100 mark approx. Am I going to see a noticeable improvement going to $2400 do you think?

I’m Team 0.66EIF

 

[OoohShiny]

Those are decent performers in terms of ECs - GOG are excellent at picking out good options

The middle one has a weird cut, though - it's not for me. The left one is alright but I like the faceting of the right hand one, so I think I concur with those above!

If you want to look at options up to $2400, you could ask GOG to put a hold on the 0.66 now (and maybe offer to pay a deposit to make it clear you will be purchasing at least that one if nothing better comes up?) and see what else is out there!

 

[LawmaLlama]

I saw on GOGs youtube channel that you are down to the 2 stones. Watching them side by side, the .66 wins hands down.

 

[leasj1]

Thanks everyone for your comments, they are really helpful. I don’t think it’s far away now.

Yes that’s correct I asked them to put the first 0.7ct and the 0.66ct together and he said he couldn’t choose between the two. My eyes are more drawn to the 0.66ct though but I do like the bigger size of the 0.7ct

I feel bad having not chose one yet and would feel I’m putting them out asking to keep a hold on the 0.66 and looking for something approx 2400 worth

 

[ratatat]

For what it's worth, I also prefer the 0.66

 

[rockysalamander]

For what it's worth, I also prefer the 0.66

Me too!

 

[leasj1]

Im going to go for the .66ct stone. Just have to nail down the setting.

The setting I really like is the cartier one and the closest I've came to that is the James Allen one I've linked below. I held off purchasing it when it was on sale because GOG were coming back to me with renders of ones they could make similar, they have come back with ones but tbh I'm kicking myself I never purchased the James Allen setting when it was on sale 2 weeks ago. Ive spoke to them on live chat and they don't know when the next sale will be again

Im awaiting another render coming back from GOG but its very difficult to tell from a render how good it will actually look.

https://www.jamesallen.com/engageme...-22mm-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-item-22640 (click on emerald cut and the 0.81ct for most similar to what I want)

Is it advisable to get a setting shipped to the diamond or have the diamond shipped to the setting?

 

[OoohShiny]

My understanding is that it is easier (and less risky) getting the setting shipped to the holder of the diamond, but you should ask GOG the question to see what they say

Custom design is always a bit of a leap of faith, I reckon, as they always seem to turn out less 'chunky' than the renders (from what I've seen) because (as I understand it) they are designed and cast them slightly more material than necessary, so that the edges can be polished off while still retaining the desired end result.

Have a search for 'custom' or 'CAD' on the forum and you should have some threads with walk-throughs of the process come up

 

[rockysalamander]

So I looked through past posting on Pricescope and the following were recommended as close to the Cartier you like. I like these a bit better because the bottom of the basket does not prevent a flush wedding band.

My advise is not to get overly focused on a particular setting. It can lead you down a long, more expensive custom road. Think about what element of the setting you really love. Remember to consider that she may want a flush or nearly flush wedding band, so that low basket may be an issue.

https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/engagement/the-trueste-with-pave {I'm not sure he will set outside stones}
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...nes/bead-set-cathedral-18k-white-gold-5484w18 (+$75 setting fee)
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...-side-stones/jeff-cooper-honey-platinum-6198p
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...eek-line-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-422.htm {they will set your diamond for a fee}
https://betterthandiamond.com/products/1895-Cartier%2dstyle-Reproduction-Ring.html

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...set-in-legato-sleek-line-pave-from-wf.165189/

 

[leasj1]

My understanding is that it is easier (and less risky) getting the setting shipped to the holder of the diamond, but you should ask GOG the question to see what they say

Custom design is always a bit of a leap of faith, I reckon, as they always seem to turn out less 'chunky' than the renders (from what I've seen) because (as I understand it) they are designed and cast them slightly more material than necessary, so that the edges can be polished off while still retaining the desired end result.

Have a search for 'custom' or 'CAD' on the forum and you should have some threads with walk-throughs of the process come up

Great, Ill a look through previous posts then. Yeah its big leap of faith. Just so much easier seeing actual photos of the ring compared with a render. Takes a bit of time getting a render back when making updates as well. Its been a week now waiting for this last update.

 

[leasj1]

So I looked through past posting on Pricescope and the following were recommended as close to the Cartier you like. I like these a bit better because the bottom of the basket does not prevent a flush wedding band.

My advise is not to get overly focused on a particular setting. It can lead you down a long, more expensive custom road. Think about what element of the setting you really love. Remember to consider that she may want a flush or nearly flush wedding band, so that low basket may be an issue.

https://www.victorcanera.com/rings/engagement/the-trueste-with-pave {I'm not sure he will set outside stones}
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...nes/bead-set-cathedral-18k-white-gold-5484w18 (+$75 setting fee)
https://www.briangavindiamonds.com/...-side-stones/jeff-cooper-honey-platinum-6198p
https://www.whiteflash.com/engageme...eek-line-pave-diamond-engagement-ring-422.htm {they will set your diamond for a fee}
https://betterthandiamond.com/products/1895-Cartier%2dstyle-Reproduction-Ring.html

https://www.pricescope.com/communit...set-in-legato-sleek-line-pave-from-wf.165189/

Thanks for taking the time to go through previous posts, I appreciate that.

You've gave me something to think about now with the low basket. It was actually that part in the setting I actually liked but now when you mention about the wedding band not being able to sit flush against it its giving me doubts. I like the square/rectangle bit underneath the diamond rather than it being round. Arghhh its never easy!

I messaged betterthediamond about their setting but they only do it with round diamonds. Just messaged victorcanera as well.

 

[rockysalamander]

David Klass in LA is a popular and more affordable customach jeweller. He's made a version of this setting. Look through his instagram.