Difference between a girdle that''s faceted or not?

[TimeTraveller]

Hi All.

What is the difference between a girdle that is listed as "faceted" and one that is not?

Thanks!

 

[JohnQuixote]

A faceted girdle means the cutter polished facets into the girdle. If it's not faceted it may have a slightly granular appearance but does not influence the grade of the diamond.

Some cutters believe polishing the girdle may cause color to be reflected back inside. In near-colorless diamonds it's not the concern that it is with slightly colored and below. You'll often see unfaceted girdles in J or K and down and small goods, .25 and lower.

Interesting girdle thread, here.

 

[TimeTraveller]

John, thanks for explaining.

 

[JohnQuixote]

Anytime.

 

[Kaleigh]

Isn''t a girdle that is unfaceted called a bruted girdle????

 

[mrssalvo]

oh Kaleigh, you and your bruted girdles

 

[JohnQuixote]

Date: 8/11/2005 4:43:23 PM
Author: kaleigh
Isn''t a girdle that is unfaceted called a bruted girdle????

Generally it should be.

There are new machines - I posted photos of one in the thread linked above - that are putting a fine finish on girdles now. More than bruted but less than polished. A polished girdle is one that is brought to a high luster.

 

[Lynn B]

Date: 8/11/2005 5:01:05 PM
Author: mrssalvo
oh Kaleigh, you and your bruted girdles

LOL! Mrs. S, I thought the EXACT same thing!!!

Actually, the girdle of my new stone is the kind John mentions above. The appraiser called it a highly finished, "polished" girdle - although not faceted. All I know is that it is VERY attractive, even under the 20x loupe! No complaints here.

Lynn

 

[Kaleigh]

Hehe I couldn''t resist!!!!!!!

 

[JohnQuixote]

Date: 8/11/2005 5:50:13 PM
Author: Lynn B

Date: 8/11/2005 5:01:05 PM
Author: mrssalvo
oh Kaleigh, you and your bruted girdles

LOL! Mrs. S, I thought the EXACT same thing!!!

 

[Kaleigh]

Ok John yes it's an inside JK between DF and many here on PS. Lynn was looking at a stone that had a bruted girdle. No one knew what that meant. So Dancing Fire said maybe it's like those girdles women wear that are brutal. It's been a JK ever since and I always have to laugh everytime the subject comes up. Maybe something gets lost in the translation but most people will know what I'm referring to. Lynn has a beautiful stone with a bruted girdle. ETA: Lynn is way too skinny to ever need a girdle, Lol!!!!!!

 

[JohnQuixote]

ROFL. Awesome.

There are some pretty funny dia-jokes in our offices here'bouts too. The puns flying around at JCK are truly rib-snorting. As you can imagine, there are girdle references a-plenty. But no one can match Garry and his 'angles' angle.

I think we need to have a PS conclave. Imagine if we could share our innermost trade-related funnies in real-time.

(edited after Kaleigh's edit - the expanded version is greatness)

 

[Kaleigh]

John you have to read my ammended version it''s much better, LMAO!!!!!

 

[Lynn B]

Date: 8/11/2005 6:37:30 PM
Author: kaleigh

... Lynn has a beautiful stone with a bruted girdle...

This subject never ceases to crack me up, too!!!!

Buuuut, for the record (and my own sanity!

) IS my diamond's girdle "bruted"???! I didn't think so. I know it's unfaceted - but it's not considered "bruted", or is it?

*** Ooooohhhhhhh Johhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhn.... ***

Lynn

 

[JohnQuixote]

Date: 8/11/2005 11:55:20 PM
Author: Lynn B

Buuuut, for the record (and my own sanity!

) IS my diamond's girdle 'bruted'???! I didn't think so. I know it's unfaceted - but it's not considered 'bruted', or is it?

*** Ooooohhhhhhh Johhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhn.... ***

Lynn

Lynn, the common appraisal lexicon may not include the precise description for what the machines Luc and I described are now doing (as per the photo you linked in the other thread). Neil, Dave, Rich or Rock may chime in with their interpretation vis a vis appraisal...

Brian calls what you have a finely finished girdle. It is not faceted, not completely polished, nor does it remain bruted. It is in a warm and cozy place somewhere in-between.

 

[Kaleigh]

Yay Lynn doesn''t have a bruted girdle after all, LOL!!!!!!

 

[belle]

Date: 8/12/2005 12:12:43 AM
Author: kaleigh
Yay Lynn doesn''t have a bruted girdle after all, LOL!!!!!!

but we knew that

 

[Dancing Fire]

Date: 8/12/2005 12:12:43 AM
Author: kaleigh
Yay Lynn doesn''t have a bruted girdle after all, LOL!!!!!!

Lynn''s are semi brutal.yours are extra brutal....LOL!!!

 

[Kaleigh]

Haha DF I saw that!!!!!

 

[Lynn B]

Date: 8/12/2005 12:08:43 AM
Author: JohnQuixote

... Brian calls what you have a finely finished girdle. It is not faceted, not completely polished, nor does it remain bruted. It is in a warm and cozy place somewhere in-between.

LOL!!!

How cute is THAT!!!
Thanks, John!

Lynn