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Design aesthetics and integrity. Opinions and help please!

IceExplorer

IceExplorer

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I'm in the process of designing a wedding band for our engagement ring.
I'm not pleased with the wax molds that have been presented to me. Unfortunately we are getting close to running out of time. As you can see below it appears like things just don't 'fit' well to make it aesthetically appeasing.

Please provide comments and thoughts. Also, does the radius on the side have to be there for integrity or engineering?

Please see the attached:
There seems to be a radius that is pulling the side of the wedding ring away from the E-ring. Is this required to make the radius?
I'll post the CAD image of her ring at the bottom.


This images shows it next to knife edge. It seems to look a little better but there is still a gap.


This picture shows the head of the ring:



Here is the CAD of the engagement ring with the wedding ring:
You'll notice there is a gap on the bottom that I'm sure will pull the top away from the head of the main stone when it's on a finger. Thoughts?



Sorry for the story book-esque post ;)

BGD Wax Mold sideview crop.png

BGD Wax Mold Head shot.png

BGD Wax Mold Crop 1.png

Ring2786No Name-V2.jpg
 
Re: Design aesthetics and integrity. Opinions and help plea

Here is the ring we provided as sample for the w-ring:

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Re: Design aesthetics and integrity. Opinions and help plea

I am not qualified to comment on design/fabrication integrity requirements - but in terms of aesthetics, a gap between ER and WR is a matter of personal preference. Some people like the gap as it plays up the fact there are two rings; others want no gap at all. Oftentimes the ER was purchased without thought of how it might look with a WR, and many ER settings do not permit WRs to sit flush. That said, was the fact you want the WR to sit flush with the ER discussed with the designer? The various sample ERs you show in the pics do not seem to present the difficulties that would preclude a custom WR from sitting flush, so I wonder if it was a matter of miscommunication or misunderstanding? Has the designer had access to the ER in order to design a flush WR? If you chose a capable designer and were clear in your instructions, it may just be a matter of providing appropriate feedback on the wax models, and letting the designer make the necessary adjustments. Good luck!
 
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I would second Mary...I can't comment on integrity, but from an appearance perspective, it's all about personal preference. I don't mind it personally, but I know that it drives a lot of people nuts. Sorry I'm not much help.
 
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Okay, the inspiration band is two rings woven together, correct? Were you purposely omitting the plain portion and trying to replicate just the wavy diamond band portion?

Because of the S curve/waviness in the band, it is definitely going to push away from the engagement ring at the base where it meets the e-ring. The inspiration ring looks like it has a plain band wrapping the other way, which would probably bring the rings more flush together.

You could do a straight band that just curves out where the diamond is.

What look were you going for?

ETA: Alternately, have them keep the wave going throughout the rest of the band, rather than straightening out - that way it will meet the e-ring at multiple points.
 
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This is a laughably horrible paint mock up of what I mean about continuing the curve throughout the band:

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As for the gap around the head, no ring is going to graft itself to the other unless they are specifically designed to do so. What kind of head is on the ering? Do you have a pic? I'm just trying to figure out what the effect is that you were looking for.
 
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marymm|1293724429|2809833 said:
I am not qualified to comment on design/fabrication integrity requirements - but in terms of aesthetics, a gap between ER and WR is a matter of personal preference. Some people like the gap as it plays up the fact there are two rings; others want no gap at all. Oftentimes the ER was purchased without thought of how it might look with a WR, and many ER settings do not permit WRs to sit flush. That said, was the fact you want the WR to sit flush with the ER discussed with the designer? The various sample ERs you show in the pics do not seem to present the difficulties that would preclude a custom WR from sitting flush, so I wonder if it was a matter of miscommunication or misunderstanding? Has the designer had access to the ER in order to design a flush WR? If you chose a capable designer and were clear in your instructions, it may just be a matter of providing appropriate feedback on the wax models, and letting the designer make the necessary adjustments. Good luck!
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1. Unfortunately, when I designed the E-ring, I didn't consider a W-ring.

2. I did discuss my wishes for it to sit flush

3. The designer of the w-ring is the same person who made the e-ring, so yes.
 
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geckodani|1293733941|2809985 said:
As for the gap around the head, no ring is going to graft itself to the other unless they are specifically designed to do so. What kind of head is on the engagement ring? Do you have a pic? I'm just trying to figure out what the effect is that you were looking for.
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Here is the vendor link to the engagement ring:
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/home/ring-details/?product_id=5508

Here is a link to the pictures I took:
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/custom-bgd-its-here.139083/

Attached is a terrible mock up of where I'd like to see the w-ring sit against the e-ring.

If you need further explanation, please let me know and I'll do my best.



Thanks for all the input!!!

Ring2786No Name-V2-edited.jpg
 
Re: Design aesthetics and integrity. Opinions and help plea

IceExplorer|1293740532|2810115 said:
geckodani|1293733941|2809985 said:
As for the gap around the head, no ring is going to graft itself to the other unless they are specifically designed to do so. What kind of head is on the engagement ring? Do you have a pic? I'm just trying to figure out what the effect is that you were looking for.
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Here is the vendor link to the engagement ring:
http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/home/ring-details/?product_id=5508

Here is a link to the pictures I took:
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/custom-bgd-its-here.139083/

Attached is a terrible mock up of where I'd like to see the w-ring sit against the e-ring.

If you need further explanation, please let me know and I'll do my best.



Thanks for all the input!!!
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So, basically you just want a straight band with a curve for the head of the engagement ring?
 
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geckodani|1293741033|2810124 said:
So, basically you just want a straight band with a curve for the head of the engagement ring?
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yes!

is that possible or are there issues with that design?
 
Re: Design aesthetics and integrity. Opinions and help plea

I am confused, In all the pictures except the 4th (the one you draw on) the ring curves away from the stone and in the 4th it curves toward the stone so it is upside down. Turn it over and it is flush. Am I right?
 

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