Cushion experts welcomed

[Henry 06]

Hello all this is my first post. First I am soooo glad I found this place, it gives diamond shoppers knowledge which equals power when they plan to make a diamond purchase so for that I say thank you. Well I am looking at some cushion cut diamonds, I wanted to get your opinion. Its from James Allen, where I plan to puchase my setting and stone from. Here are the cushions.


Cut: Ideal
Depth: 69.30%
Table: 61%
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Good
Measurements: 6.19x5.64x3.91
Color: J
Clarity: SI
Weight: 1.13ct.
Cert: GIA

Another One:

Cut: Ideal
Depth: 66.90%
Table: 67%
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Measurement: 6.20x5.95x3.98
Color: J
Clarity: SI
Weight: 1.11ct.
Cert: GIA

 

[stone-cold11]

No way to tell from the numbers alone. Need loupe and ASET images. Also request for a sarin scan for the crown height.

Are they eye-clean?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/16/2009 1:39:50 PM
Author:Henry 06
Hello all this is my first post. First I am soooo glad I found this place, it gives diamond shoppers knowledge which equals power when they plan to make a diamond purchase so for that I say thank you. Well I am looking at some cushion cut diamonds, I wanted to get your opinion. Its from James Allen, where I plan to puchase my setting and stone from. Here are the cushions.


Cut: Ideal
Depth: 69.30%
Table: 61%
Polish: Excellent
Symmetry: Good
Measurements: 6.19x5.64x3.91
Color: J
Clarity: SI
Weight: 1.13ct.
Cert: GIA

Another One:

Cut: Ideal
Depth: 66.90%
Table: 67%
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Measurement: 6.20x5.95x3.98
Color: J
Clarity: SI
Weight: 1.11ct.
Cert: GIA

Hi Henry

I would really advise watching this new video from goodoldgold, it is the first one on the page linked, it was made specially by an expert to help new cushion buyers and gives an easy to understand tutorial on how to select a well cut cushion, the various types available etc - consumers guide to buying a cushion

As to the above cushions, if you could post the photos of each please and also request an ASET Image for each from James Allen, that would be very useful. Also a Sarin report to get the crown height would also be very helpful if possible, ask JA if they can provide this. Images will give us a lot more info on the type of cushion these are, normally they fall within two main types, modern and vintage. Both look different to each other, vintage style cushions show more in the way of chunky faceting and bold flashes of light which are now very popular.

Cushions can't be judged effectively by the numbers, also they can vary with appearance, faceting type, the amount of pavilion mains and so on, all can result in very different looks and behaviour so images are essential.

Do you know what type of cushion you want? Have you researched and looked at many?

 

[FB.]

From the basic numbers, I'm not impressed by either.
Tables are too large for much chance of a well-balanced stone in both cases. The depth of number 1 is at the extreme upper end of what I'd tolerate and so is it's table %. The table% greater than depth% of number two is not acceptable to me.

If I was buying, I would not consider either of them, because the likelihood of a truly beautiful stone with those proportion sets is much less than if you search in the more normal proportion sets - but not everyone likes the same thing in diamonds.

 

[Henry 06]

What are the requirements on posting images? Is there a link on that?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/16/2009 3:28:19 PM
Author: Henry 06
What are the requirements on posting images? Is there a link on that?

You can post the links here Henry or upload the images separately, as long as you don't use a photo hosting site you are ok. This link gives if you need them.

 

[Henry 06]

Here is one,

 

[Henry 06]

Cut: Ideal
1.09 CT.
J Color
67.8% depth
60.0% table
polish: excellent
symmetry: very good
GIA Cert.

 

[Henry 06]

that video on the cushion diamond was great! Thank you.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/16/2009 7:01:33 PM
Author: Henry 06
Here is one,

If you could get an ASET for this one that would help Henry, so glad you found the video useful- its an excellent guide for the new cushion buyer!

 

[Henry 06]

That diamond is gone. Here is another one I am eyeing

1.11 Ct. J VS2 Ideal Cut

66.7% depth
54: Table
Very Good Polish
Good Symetry
Girdle: Mid-Thick
Culet None
No Floourscene
6.62x5.92x3.95
1.12 ratio

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/20/2009 1:09:15 PM
Author: Henry 06
That diamond is gone. Here is another one I am eyeing

1.11 Ct. J VS2 Ideal Cut

66.7% depth
54: Table
Very Good Polish
Good Symetry
Girdle: Mid-Thick
Culet None
No Floourscene
6.62x5.92x3.95
1.12 ratio

An ASET image is needed again if you can request one. From the video I linked do you know what type of cushion you want Henry, a vintage chunky cushion or a modern cushion? What is your budget?

 

[Henry 06]

JA said you can only request 3 ASET Images so I dont want to waste them yet. This chusion I just posted is a modified one. I prefer the more morden look or a happy medium between the two. Dont the the chunky but the splintery glass look isnt all pleasing either. I wish I could see them in person. Budget is 2,700 +or- 100

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/20/2009 1:19:31 PM
Author: Henry 06
JA said you can only request 3 ASET Images so I dont want to waste them yet. This chusion I just posted is a modified one. I prefer the more morden look or a happy medium between the two. Dont the the chunky but the splintery glass look isnt all pleasing either. I wish I could see them in person. Budget is 2,700 +or- 100

I understand about not wasting the ASET, it looks like a nice cushion but hard to properly judge without an ASET.

Just thought I would show you these ones,

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-VVS1-Premium-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1102862.asp

http://www.jamesallen.com/diamonds/J-SI1-Ideal-Cut-Cushion-Diamond-1200779.asp

 

[Henry 06]

trying to get close to the tiffany nuvo look if possible. If not than oh well.

 

[Henry 06]

Yea I understand I plan to purchase in about 3weeks so once it gets closer and this diamond is still there I will request an ASET image. I have a few more I wanted to post diamond images. Not sure If I should if I dont have the ASET image yet.

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/20/2009 1:27:45 PM
Author: Henry 06
Yea I understand I plan to purchase in about 3weeks so once it gets closer and this diamond is still there I will request an ASET image. I have a few more I wanted to post diamond images. Not sure If I should if I dont have the ASET image yet.

We can certainly take a look at the loupe images, it will give some idea.

 

[Henry 06]

Thanks I had those two on my list, I hard because I dont know what to look for in a still acutal image of a diamond. So when I see those black spots im not sure if that a good thing (no inclusions) or is that just the reflection of the flash. What should I look for in a still image or than inclusion w/out have an ASET image?

 

[Lorelei]

Date: 11/20/2009 2:09:04 PM
Author: Henry 06
Thanks I had those two on my list, I hard because I dont know what to look for in a still acutal image of a diamond. So when I see those black spots im not sure if that a good thing (no inclusions) or is that just the reflection of the flash. What should I look for in a still image or than inclusion w/out have an ASET image?

It comes down to your eyes I think and the type of cushion which appeals most to you, personally I like the JA loupe images as I can get a lot of information from them. As to inclusions the only reliable way to know if a diamond is eyeclean or not is to ask the vendor and make your expectations clear concerning this. For example, if you don''t want to see any visible inclusions from any angle or distance, make sure you tell the vendor that so you are both on the same page.

 

[sweetpea&babycorn]

Date: 11/20/2009 1:22:18 PM
Author: Henry 06
trying to get close to the tiffany nuvo look if possible. If not than oh well.

hi henry. as a fellow cushion searcher, the tiffany novo stone is best represented by an 8-main cushion brilliant (anyone correct me if i''m wrong please). these are really difficult to find. if you are frustrated with your own search, you can contact mark at engagement rings direct. he is currently searching for a cushion brilliant for me. he has not had any luck, but he may have something for you since our specifications are different. it might be worth your time to call him and see what he thinks. cushions are so hard to shop for, i hope you find your perfect stone!

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 11/20/2009 3:01:49 PM
Author: sweetpea&babycorn

Date: 11/20/2009 1:22:18 PM
Author: Henry 06
trying to get close to the tiffany nuvo look if possible. If not than oh well.

hi henry. as a fellow cushion searcher, the tiffany novo stone is best represented by an 8-main cushion brilliant (anyone correct me if i''m wrong please). these are really difficult to find. if you are frustrated with your own search, you can contact mark at engagement rings direct. he is currently searching for a cushion brilliant for me. he has not had any luck, but he may have something for you since our specifications are different. it might be worth your time to call him and see what he thinks. cushions are so hard to shop for, i hope you find your perfect stone!

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/help-is-the-tiffany-ring-worth-it.123192/ Take a look at my detailed posts in this thread to answer that question I also provided side by side photographs.
For similar optics to the Novo the 8 main modern Cushion Brilliant and Square Cushion HA would be the closest.

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 11/20/2009 1:22:18 PM
Author: Henry 06
trying to get close to the tiffany nuvo look if possible. If not than oh well.

The novo is not a 4 main cushion and it is an 8 main and perfectly square meaning Length/Width Ratio = 1 or very close to it.
In your spec range I'd have JA, or mark at ERD or Bob Hoskins at WF call in either or both of these:

http://img.bluenile.com/is-viewers/dhtml/bnZoomTemplate.jsp?image=certs/?src={/1975/GIA2101927040_zoom.jpeg}&serverUrl=http://img.bluenile.com/is/image/certs/?src={/1975/GIA2101927040_zoom.jpeg}
http://img.bluenile.com/is-viewers/dhtml/bnZoomTemplate.jsp?image=certs/?src={/1975/GIA1106171221_zoom.jpeg}&serverUrl=http://img.bluenile.com/is/image/certs/?src={/1975/GIA1106171221_zoom.jpeg}

The second one is spreadier but there is no way to tell either's optics without a ASET image. The above vendors would have to call them in and take a look they all should be able to match or beat the BN price, my suggestion is to call Mark at ERD as he has the most experience with these particular cushions and deals with this vendor the most.

 

[Rhino]

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[Henry 06]

Here is the magnified imaged. I will request an ASET once I am about to purchase in about 2-3weeks

1.11 Ct. J VS2 Ideal Cut
66.7% depth
54: Table
Very Good Polish
Good Symetry
Girdle: Mid-Thick
Culet None
No Floourscene
6.62x5.92x3.95
1.12 ratio

 

[Henry 06]

Here is another one, where the sales rep has confirmed its eye clean.

Cut: Ideal
Carat: 1.11
Color: J
Clarity: SI1
GIA Cert
Depth: 68.4%
Table: 65.0
Polish: Very Good
Symmetry: Very Good
Girdle: Med
Culet: Slight Large
Ratio 1:06

 

[CharmyPoo]

I am really surprised that last cushion is eye clean. I know the photos are magnified but you should be clear on your definition of eye clean.

 

[Lorelei]

First one looks best to me.

 

[Henry 06]

Here is the ASET

 

[ChunkyCushionLover]

Date: 12/3/2009 3:51:39 PM
Author: Henry 06
Here is the ASET

Not liking that ASET way too much Green throughout the stone, not enough distribution of RED along the edges. It will look smaller than it is due to deadness along the outside.
1) What is your budget?
2) Do you know which type of cushion Cut you like best?

 

[Gypsy]

Date: 11/20/2009 9:35:00 PM
Author: ChunkyCushionLover

Date: 11/20/2009 1:22:18 PM
Author: Henry 06
trying to get close to the tiffany nuvo look if possible. If not than oh well.

The novo is not a 4 main cushion and it is an 8 main and perfectly square meaning Length/Width Ratio = 1 or very close to it.
In your spec range I''d have JA, or mark at ERD or Bob Hoskins at WF call in either or both of these:

http://img.bluenile.com/is-viewers/dhtml/bnZoomTemplate.jsp?image=certs/?src={/1975/GIA2101927040_zoom.jpeg}&serverUrl=http://img.bluenile.com/is/image/certs/?src={/1975/GIA2101927040_zoom.jpeg}
http://img.bluenile.com/is-viewers/dhtml/bnZoomTemplate.jsp?image=certs/?src={/1975/GIA1106171221_zoom.jpeg}&serverUrl=http://img.bluenile.com/is/image/certs/?src={/1975/GIA1106171221_zoom.jpeg}

The second one is spreadier but there is no way to tell either''s optics without a ASET image. The above vendors would have to call them in and take a look they all should be able to match or beat the BN price, my suggestion is to call Mark at ERD as he has the most experience with these particular cushions and deals with this vendor the most.

I''ve seen rectangular Novos at Tiffany.