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I’m ok, all they could find was vertigo after almost 12 hours there and the pills help.
Last night I got extremely dizzy and fell twice, being my usual grumpy self said this will pass.
Well of course my greater half was having none of that so I called my doctor’s office.
The advice was not in so many words but meant don’t be an idiot and go to the ER.
One ambulance ride later because I was still dizzy, it takes longer to get unloaded from the ambulance than the ride there.
People waiting all over the place sitting in chairs in the hall.
They said they had another 45 people waiting in the waiting room.
Here are some of the stories with no identifying info.
One lady had a miscarriage on Friday and was having bleeding and her doctor told her to go to the ER right away she may need emergency surgery and came in at 1pm by 8pm all they had done is blood tests. She is upset her husband is upset, they did get a little loud but in my opinion it was warranted.
Dragon lady comes out of her closed office and rather than having any compassion for a scared couple throws them out of the in back waiting area. They leave the hospital.

Guy cuts 3 fingers off on a table saw, they bandage and determine they cannot be reattached.
After 4 hours of waiting he went drove home with no further treatment than wrapping it.
Yes he drove himself to the ER with his severed fingers and walked in.
His wife freaks out when she gets home and makes him take an ambulance back to the ER.
5 hours later they finally take him back for further wound care.

4 People came in with gsw 2 doa and 1 rushed to surgery and one bandaged up and left with the cops in cuffs.

Another lady was there for 8 hours and had testing done and all she needed was her results and a note for work. She got her results on my chart. All ok.
She asked how long it was going to be and they told her they were just waiting for a room so the doctor can talk to her and release her and that could be hours yet.
She asked for the doctor to come over and tell her right there, she did not care if others heard.
Of course they tell her they cannot do that, she left.

Almost everyone was getting their test results hours before seeing anyone on “my chart”.
I had my blood work, head ct and xray results for hours.

That was my crazy night at the ER.
 

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So sorry Karl!

So much of American medical care sucks.
This is not right for one of the richest countries, if not the richest, in the world.

:nono::nono::nono:
 

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OMG. That's indeed crazy. I'm thinking going to the ER may be worse than staying home in some situations. Why go and sit for hours, only to go home unattended anyway. How horrible.
 

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Glad you're OK.
 

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Oh all those poor people how awful for all of them
karl i had vertigo two years back just prior to the pandenic
We knew what it was because Gary gets it
oh boy i was so sick
it came on so fast
i was outside hanging out the washing

after two days of puking and covered in bruises from banging aganist the hall walls as i stumbled to the loo i lay in bed and seriously thought about going to the hospital
But the ride in the car and the wait i knew i would endure at A&E put me completly off
After reading your experience i know i did the right thing

i just forced myself to drink and eat because i knew i was dehydrated and hasn't eatten for two days

You can find exercises on u tube to help to dislodge the crystals in your ear causing all the nausea but i have to confess i was too scared to do them because i was so sore from all the puking i just couldn't bear to puke again but i no doubt suffered longer because of not doing them

some phyiotheripss (excsuse spelling) can treat it
Gary's late daughter Melanie had it for the first time when she first had cancer
she didn't know what it was and thought she was dying
but she found a phyiotjeripst and had very good results from the treatment

I hope your feeling better soon
eat and drink things with ginger in
 

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OMG Karl - 12 hours at A&E :(2

I guess its good to have other things ruled out but when Gary had it the first time our GP knew exactly what it was from a usual 15min appointment
 

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I am beyond relieved that you are ok. I have nothing positive to say about US health care so I shall remain silent which, as you know, is a rarity for me. Hugs to you and wifey.
 

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Glad you are ok. Hope you are feeling less dizzy. Vertigo is horrible. Sounds like quite the ordeal you went through at the ER.
 

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Hi, Karl. I always cringe when I hear that doctors prescribe medication (usually Meclizine) and no follow-up evaluations with the right professionals. You have no idea how many times I've had patients who continue to take Meclizine daily FOR DECADES.

I'm glad you're feeling better.

OK, I'm taking off my Audiologist's hat now.
 

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Hi, Karl. I always cringe when I hear that doctors prescribe medication (usually Meclizine) and no follow-up evaluations with the right professionals. You have no idea how many times I've had patients who continue to take Meclizine daily FOR DECADES.

I'm glad you're feeling better.

OK, I'm taking off my Audiologist's hat now.
My only instructions where to follow up with my primary care if I still had it when my meds(Meclizine) run out, which is 5 days.
If that is the case which doctors should I ask him for a referral to?
 

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OMG Karl - 12 hours at A&E :(2

I guess its good to have other things ruled out but when Gary had it the first time our GP knew exactly what it was from a usual 15min appointment
I fell and im on blood thinners so the ER was where they wanted me to go. I would have much rather gone to the walk in clinic.
 

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I hope you feel better now, Karl
 

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My only instructions where to follow up with my primary care if I still had it when my meds(Meclizine) run out, which is 5 days.
If that is the case which doctors should I ask him for a referral to?

I had it bad for two weeks and then it took about another 4 weeks to come right
But i wasn't working at the time so didn't bother going to a doctor
I also didn't know a physio coupe fix it - to get rid of the crystals in the ear by movement
Do you or your wife have a regular physio when you hurt your back or shoulder or what ever

Try these
I did have a friend who tried it and it made him a lot better
 

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I had it bad for two weeks and then it took about another 4 weeks to come right
But i wasn't working at the time so didn't bother going to a doctor
I also didn't know a physio coupe fix it - to get rid of the crystals in the ear by movement
Do you or your wife have a regular physio when you hurt your back or shoulder or what ever

Try these
I did have a friend who tried it and it made him a lot better
Have been to a few different physios but really prefer just downloading the exercises and doing my own.
With my elbow before I got it operated on the doctor kept sending me back and did physio for over 5 months.
I ran through the stuff in video:
Turning head to 45 and hold: meh not much effect.
Moving just eyes... meh not much either.
Moving head while staring at a fixed point.. hold the ground ugh.
 

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Have been to a few different physios but really prefer just downloading the exercises and doing my own.
With my elbow before I got it operated on the doctor kept sending me back and did physio for over 5 months.
I ran through the stuff in video:
Turning head to 45 and hold: meh not much effect.
Moving just eyes... meh not much either.
Moving head while staring at a fixed point.. hold the ground ugh.

Good on you for trying them karl
i was too scared and just over throwing up
To be honest i had zero faith in physios but i hurt my shoulder real bad my last year working in the timber yard
ironically i hurt it carrying stuff 5 min up the hill home from the big yummy food warehouse just down the road from home where i was buying things for work (and for us) for a trade breakfast where we would put on a breakfast at work for the builders

Anyway anyway oh man it hurt so bad i thought i must have torn a rotor cuff
Funny in thar It didn't hurt till two days after
Then i could not get in to the doctors so i just went to work
my workmate sent me off to her physio
I dont like the idea of being touched by strangers but she had a machine- i was super surprized and happy when it slowy got better - well first she strapped it so i could at least get some sleep
- it took, maybe months but she also fixed my tennis elbow at the same time
I would have gone back to her but i didn't know at the time i had the vertigo that it could be fixed by a physio and also she was 2 1/2 hours away

anyway Karl, i really hope you don't suffer for much longer, its awful in a way someone who hasn't had it isnt going to understand
i couldn't stand the light - keeping my eyes closed probably made half the bruises i got
i hope your dear wife is looking after you and giving you sympathy
I took a towel to bed and managed the week with not too much mess, the bedroom is not far from the toilet

its surprising once you get talking to people how common it is
Get well soon Karl
 

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An advice nurse could have dealt with this, most likely -- but I see some elements there that may point to imaging. Almost always BPV or viral labyrinthitis -- but could be a stroke, depending on your demographics and other symptoms. I hope you are OK.

Not you -- mostly an observer there -- but plenty of people on this thread do not understand what the ER (hint: the "E" is short for emergency) is for or else are annoyed that all those pesky gunshot wounds and Skilsaw amputations were prioritized ahead of you. Trust me -- you will love this system when you get shot and are whisked right into a trauma bay. The ER is not like MacDonald's -- not everybody gets the same meal. You would be amazed what fills the ER and does not need to be there. You would be amazed what comes in at night that would never come in during the day.

We should be grateful that there even are ERs now after 2+ years of epic workload, pandemic denialism, PPE for everything, and the increasingly pervasive "nobody knows nuthin" attitude. Nurses, MAs, ER docs, support staff have all quit in droves and can't easily be replaced.

ERs can seldom arrange follow-up for you. That's why they tell you to call your PCP. They may not even know who or what is in your network, etc. Most people who do not get follow-up after an ER visit have dropped that ball all by themselves.
 

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An advice nurse could have dealt with this, most likely -- but I see some elements there that may point to imaging. Almost always BPV or viral labyrinthitis -- but could be a stroke, depending on your demographics and other symptoms. I hope you are OK.

Not you -- mostly an observer there -- but plenty of people on this thread do not understand what the ER (hint: the "E" is short for emergency) is for or else are annoyed that all those pesky gunshot wounds and Skilsaw amputations were prioritized ahead of you. Trust me -- you will love this system when you get shot and are whisked right into a trauma bay. The ER is not like MacDonald's -- not everybody gets the same meal. You would be amazed what fills the ER and does not need to be there. You would be amazed what comes in at night that would never come in during the day.

We should be grateful that there even are ERs now after 2+ years of epic workload, pandemic denialism, PPE for everything, and the increasingly pervasive "nobody knows nuthin" attitude. Nurses, MAs, ER docs, support staff have all quit in droves and can't easily be replaced.

ERs can seldom arrange follow-up for you. That's why they tell you to call your PCP. They may not even know who or what is in your network, etc. Most people who do not get follow-up after an ER visit have dropped that ball all by themselves.

This calls for a group hug (socially distanced of course and be real gentle with Karl 063f6cdf82c50f4a2208f361e8d8bd90-1.jpg
 

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An advice nurse could have dealt with this, most likely -- but I see some elements there that may point to imaging. Almost always BPV or viral labyrinthitis -- but could be a stroke, depending on your demographics and other symptoms. I hope you are OK.

Not you -- mostly an observer there -- but plenty of people on this thread do not understand what the ER (hint: the "E" is short for emergency) is for or else are annoyed that all those pesky gunshot wounds and Skilsaw amputations were prioritized ahead of you. Trust me -- you will love this system when you get shot and are whisked right into a trauma bay. The ER is not like MacDonald's -- not everybody gets the same meal. You would be amazed what fills the ER and does not need to be there. You would be amazed what comes in at night that would never come in during the day.

We should be grateful that there even are ERs now after 2+ years of epic workload, pandemic denialism, PPE for everything, and the increasingly pervasive "nobody knows nuthin" attitude. Nurses, MAs, ER docs, support staff have all quit in droves and can't easily be replaced.

ERs can seldom arrange follow-up for you. That's why they tell you to call your PCP. They may not even know who or what is in your network, etc. Most people who do not get follow-up after an ER visit have dropped that ball all by themselves.

This makes me greatful for what we do have here way off the beaten track and a couple of hours from a big city hospital
our after hours GP service (which is rostered) is situated right next door to A&E with the same waiting room.
a nurse assess the patients in our (daytime) experience quite smartly to deside if its a true A&E situation or a GP visit (then the waiting starts prioritizing the most needy as you said

We have a shortage of GPs here, its near on impossible to get an appointment within 2 weeks which is hopeless when you are sick
A&E is free but the GP costs more than visiting one's own GP but they are good and try to give value for money by writting prescriptions for one's regular medication if its almost due

we dont have all the range of specialists at our hospital but what we have seems good
The eye dept saved Gary's eye site which we will forever be greatful

we do all appreciate all the hard work you guys do especially now durring the pandemic
what would we do without you ?
 

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Glad you're ok Karl. I'm sure Vertigo just suc$s. Take care of yourself.

tyty333
 

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I am relieved you are ok @Karl_K
I’m so sorry for what you went through and for what so many go through. Healthcare in the USA has a lot of room for improvement. Hugs to you and your dear wife. Be well. Stay safe.
 

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@Karl_K -

I'm so sorry for such a lousy evening!

How are you feeling today?

Sending you hugs and saying some prayers for you.
 

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hugs back and thank you!
I got woke up early because someone got locked out of their apartment and wifey had left already.
I had a major case of the twirless when I sat up and had to take a pill and make the lady wait until it kicked in and I could make it downstairs to the door.
Other than being sore from landing on my rear and sitting for so long im doing ok.
 

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An advice nurse could have dealt with this, most likely -- but I see some elements there that may point to imaging. Almost always BPV or viral labyrinthitis -- but could be a stroke, depending on your demographics and other symptoms. I hope you are OK.

Not you -- mostly an observer there -- but plenty of people on this thread do not understand what the ER (hint: the "E" is short for emergency) is for or else are annoyed that all those pesky gunshot wounds and Skilsaw amputations were prioritized ahead of you. Trust me -- you will love this system when you get shot and are whisked right into a trauma bay. The ER is not like MacDonald's -- not everybody gets the same meal. You would be amazed what fills the ER and does not need to be there. You would be amazed what comes in at night that would never come in during the day.

We should be grateful that there even are ERs now after 2+ years of epic workload, pandemic denialism, PPE for everything, and the increasingly pervasive "nobody knows nuthin" attitude. Nurses, MAs, ER docs, support staff have all quit in droves and can't easily be replaced.

ERs can seldom arrange follow-up for you. That's why they tell you to call your PCP. They may not even know who or what is in your network, etc. Most people who do not get follow-up after an ER visit have dropped that ball all by themselves.
Not sure really how to take your post.
I posted it to show a snapshot of what its like in the ER here now. It did not used to be this way.
I asked and everyone says that it is the new norm there now where it was the exception before.

edit: I have a history of dvt/pe and am on blood thinners and they did do a head ct which came back ok.
 

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Not sure really how to take your post.

Sorry -- meant no offense to you and pointed out that you were just an observer there in your initial post (beginning of my second para but I guess that did not come through like I wanted). Lots of pile-on from others about how awful healthcare is, etc., and that is what I was on about. I probably should have just said nothing.
 

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Sorry -- meant no offense to you and pointed out that you were just an observer there in your initial post (beginning of my second para but I guess that did not come through like I wanted). Lots of pile-on from others about how awful healthcare is, etc., and that is what I was on about. I probably should have just said nothing.
No offense taken.
How the young couple and the guy with the cut off fingers was treated was flat out wrong and was awful.
That I had to wait was annoying but I get it, I'v been the person who got bumped up the line and was grateful for it.
 

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Terrible night for so many people.
Still glad you are ok.
 

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I’m so happy you are okay Karl!!
 
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