Colin Powell Endorses Obama!

[trillionaire]

Date: 10/19/2008 9:28:05 PM
Author: swimmer


Um, watching Family Guy, Stewie was just dressed as Hitler with a McCain Palin button on his lapel, how weird.

Now THAT is ironic...

I think that the media is going a little far with the McCain/Palin bashing... the last two SNL's have been pretty over the top...

 

[neatfreak]

Date: 10/19/2008 11:12:49 PM
Author: trillionaire

Date: 10/19/2008 9:28:05 PM

Author: swimmer




Um, watching Family Guy, Stewie was just dressed as Hitler with a McCain Palin button on his lapel, how weird.

Now THAT is ironic...

I think that the media is going a little far with the McCain/Palin bashing... the last two SNL''s have been pretty over the top...

Agreed...but one interesting factoid that I learned this week is that Lorne Michaels has donated quite a bit to the McCain campaign!

 

[brazen_irish_hussy]

Date: 10/19/2008 8:03:26 PM
Author: trillionaire
Just the beginning:



In the immediate aftermath of his appearance on Meet The Press, several prominent GOP officials - ranging from the established to the extreme - defined the announcement more by skin color than ideology.


The most crass interpretation came from talk radio host Rush Limbaugh, who wrote the Politico''s Jonathan Martin the following:


''Secretary Powell says his endorsement is not about race... OK, fine. I am now researching his past endorsements to see if I can find all the inexperienced, very liberal, white candidates he has endorsed. I''ll let you know what I come up with.''


Around the same time, esteemed conservative columnist George Will was also explaining Powell''s decision as part of a larger, more psychological sway that Obama held over other African Americans.''


There will be ''some impact,'' Will declared. ''And I think this adds to my calculation -- this is very hard to measure -- but it seems to me if we had the tools to measure we''d find that Barack Obama gets two votes because he''s black for every one he loses because he''s black because so much of this country is so eager, a, to feel good about itself by doing this, but more than that to put paid to the whole Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson game of political rhetoric.''


I guess neither of them WATCHED the interview, in which clear arguments were laid out...

So he was logical and good for the country when a white republican choose him but is getting senile and driven by race when he picks a black liberal? Sigh.
This is why I don''t listen to political commentators from either side. The mainstream media may not be perfect, but at least some of them try to be even handed and not blatant racists.

Personally, I am voting for Obama do to his social, economic and foreign policy positions, not because I am a middle class white girl who needs to vote for the black candidate to assuage some sort of white guilt.

 

[luckystar112]

Date: 10/19/2008 11:17:14 PM
Author: neatfreak

Date: 10/19/2008 11:12:49 PM
Author: trillionaire

Date: 10/19/2008 9:28:05 PM

Author: swimmer




Um, watching Family Guy, Stewie was just dressed as Hitler with a McCain Palin button on his lapel, how weird.

Now THAT is ironic...

I think that the media is going a little far with the McCain/Palin bashing... the last two SNL''s have been pretty over the top...

Agreed...but one interesting factoid that I learned this week is that Lorne Michaels has donated quite a bit to the McCain campaign!

Heh. That''s interesting. I totally agree as well! Of course I feel like if I say that I''m just coming of as "whiny", so I''m really glad you said it as well. I''d say it''s gotten pretty bad on both ends....but that''s the first time I''ve heard non-republicans say it about McCain/Palin. So thank you!!! For some reason it makes me feel so much better.

 

[trillionaire]

Date: 10/19/2008 11:33:28 PM
Author: luckystar112

Date: 10/19/2008 11:17:14 PM

Author: neatfreak

Date: 10/19/2008 11:12:49 PM

Author: trillionaire

Date: 10/19/2008 9:28:05 PM


Author: swimmer





Um, watching Family Guy, Stewie was just dressed as Hitler with a McCain Palin button on his lapel, how weird.

Now THAT is ironic...

I think that the media is going a little far with the McCain/Palin bashing... the last two SNL's have been pretty over the top...

Agreed...but one interesting factoid that I learned this week is that Lorne Michaels has donated quite a bit to the McCain campaign!

Heh. That's interesting. I totally agree as well! Of course I feel like if I say that I'm just coming of as 'whiny', so I'm really glad you said it as well. I'd say it's gotten pretty bad on both ends....but that's the first time I've heard non-republicans say it about McCain/Palin. So thank you!!! For some reason it makes me feel so much better.

I am not voting McCain/Palin, but I do try to be fair in my judgments

I have posted non-flattering things about Obama et al. I thought that the "McCain and his imaginary friends" thing was completely unnecessary. I thought the Palin rap was in the realm of pretty disrespectful. I think Palin tried to be a good sport, though I would also respect her for saying, "Thanks, but no thanks" to public mockery. Seriously, with the moose and the gunshots? My brother and I both agreed, it was too much.



ETA: I mentioned an article earlier on newspaper endorsements. Not sure who I was talking to, but here it is

 

[decodelighted]

LOVE THIS!!!!! On Colin Powell''s endorsement of Obama ...

Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich of Georgia, a Republican luminary, agreed with Brazile that the endorsement “eliminated the experience argument. How are you going to say the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs, former secretary of state, former national security adviser, was taken in?”

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 10/19/2008 11:47:53 PM
Author: decodelighted
LOVE THIS!!!!! On Colin Powell''s endorsement of Obama ...


Former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich of Georgia, a Republican luminary, agreed with Brazile that the endorsement “eliminated the experience argument. How are you going to say the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs, former secretary of state, former national security adviser, was taken in?”

Yet people are saying he was taken in by Obama''s race! I knew there would be people like Rush Limbaugh (because I want my news from a pill addict who commits fraud) who would say it was racially motivated. So ridiculous and offensive in so many ways!

 

[luckystar112]

Does Rush have an actual show or is he just on the radio? I''ll admit on having never tuned into him because I have no idea why he is considered relevant in the first place (or even where to look to find him). I''ve heard his ridiculous comments for years...I can''t believe people would still take him seriously.

 

[iheartscience]

I''m pretty sure he''s on satellite radio now, but I think he used to be on regular radio. I could be wrong, though. It just blows my mind that anyone would listen to him!

 

[luckystar112]

Date: 10/19/2008 11:41:25 PM
Author: trillionaire


I am not voting McCain/Palin, but I do try to be fair in my judgments

I have posted non-flattering things about Obama et al. I thought that the ''McCain and his imaginary friends'' thing was completely unnecessary. I thought the Palin rap was in the realm of pretty disrespectful. I think Palin tried to be a good sport, though I would also respect her for saying, ''Thanks, but no thanks'' to public mockery. Seriously, with the moose and the gunshots? My brother and I both agreed, it was too much.



ETA: I mentioned an article earlier on newspaper endorsements. Not sure who I was talking to, but here it is

Do you think that Palin approved it beforehand, or do you think that they just said, "Now for this skit, you just sit here..and Amy Poehler is going to rap. It will be funny, don''t worry". lol
I would think she approved it...but you never know!

I just remember Tina Fey talking about ridiculous Paris Hilton was because she wouldn''t make fun of herself.

 

[luckystar112]

Speaking of Farrakhan...he almost sounds, well, normal?
I''m not sure I buy it, but I guess only time will tell.

 

[trillionaire]

Date: 10/20/2008 12:26:41 AM
Author: luckystar112

Date: 10/19/2008 11:41:25 PM

Author: trillionaire



I am not voting McCain/Palin, but I do try to be fair in my judgments

I have posted non-flattering things about Obama et al. I thought that the ''McCain and his imaginary friends'' thing was completely unnecessary. I thought the Palin rap was in the realm of pretty disrespectful. I think Palin tried to be a good sport, though I would also respect her for saying, ''Thanks, but no thanks'' to public mockery. Seriously, with the moose and the gunshots? My brother and I both agreed, it was too much.




ETA: I mentioned an article earlier on newspaper endorsements. Not sure who I was talking to, but here it is

Do you think that Palin approved it beforehand, or do you think that they just said, ''Now for this skit, you just sit here..and Amy Poehler is going to rap. It will be funny, don''t worry''. lol

I would think she approved it...but you never know!


I just remember Tina Fey talking about ridiculous Paris Hilton was because she wouldn''t make fun of herself.

She probably approved it, but to be a good sport. I think SNL could have been a bit more gracious.

 

[VRBeauty]

Date: 10/20/2008 12:26:41 AM
Author: luckystar112

Do you think that Palin approved it beforehand, or do you think that they just said, ''Now for this skit, you just sit here..and Amy Poehler is going to rap. It will be funny, don''t worry''. lol
I would think she approved it...but you never know!

I just remember Tina Fey talking about ridiculous Paris Hilton was because she wouldn''t make fun of herself.

I assume she knew about the content beforehand. Even if she was bending over backwards to be a good sport, she is in the midst of a Presidential campaign since she volunteered to be on the show, I''d think she or the campaign would have insisted on the right to review the content. After all, it''s SNL, not a talk show format in which the the interviewee gets their say in their responses to questions. Also I seem to recall reading that she was in NY for a day or two to prepare for the show -- so I assume she took part in rehearsals.

Of course we all know what assumptions can do to you!

I''d love to hear Governor Palin''s take on her SNL experience.

 

[E B]

I'd love to see Rush say that to Powell's face. He wouldn't, but it'd be a smackdown so priceless, I'd pay to see it. As graceful as a smackdown can be, of course.

C'mon, Rush, we dare you! Your prize? All the Oxy you can choke down.

 

[VRBeauty]

My adopted home of Sacramento is gave rise to some notable enterprises -- Shakey's Pizza and the late great Tower Records, to name just two. It's also where Rush Limbaugh started his career in broadcasting.

OK. Maybe we're home to just two notable enterprises.

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 10/20/2008 1:44:09 AM
Author: EBree
I''d love to see Rush say that to Powell''s face. He wouldn''t, but it''d be a smackdown so priceless, I''d pay to see it. As graceful as a smackdown can be, of course.

C''mon, Rush, we dare you! Your prize? All the Oxy you can choke down.

Ha! That last line made me say "Oh sh**!" out loud! Hilarious, EBree!

 

[HollyS]

Date: 10/19/2008 1:26:55 PM
Author: decodelighted

Date: 10/19/2008 1:04:00 PM
Author: starsapphire
Were is the jubilant thread where Louis Farrakhan announces his endorsement of Obama?

Sour grapes? Who do you think the KKK & skinheads endorse ... yeah, MCCAIN/PALIN! But, if I have to state the OBVIOUS, the reason Colin Powell is ''newsworthy'' is because he is a respected, beloved American figure -- UNLIKE the fringe radicals on either side who mainstream party members as a whole would rather keep QUIET.

Well, duh. We all know why skinheads and KKK would endorse the more conservative viewpoint. That says absolutely nothing about McCain/Palin. Who is surprised by those idiots and their choice? Nobody.

Colin Powell seems to have come to his opinion after some very thoughtful consideration. Farrakhan is endorsing Obama because he''s 1) a Democrat, and for him to endorse a Republican would be laughable and unbelievable; and 2) Obama''s a black man; and that is number two only because Farrakhan would never vote for a black Republican. His endorsement basically means squat. His ''choice'' is no surprise to anyone.

So basically, I guess we are in agreement over this, deco.

Who da thunk it?

 

[starsapphire]

But his son supports McCain.

http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/colin-powell-splits-with-son-michael-over-white-house-race-2008-10-20.html

 

[pennquaker09]

Date: 10/20/2008 6:31:35 PM
Author: starsapphire
But his son supports McCain.


http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/colin-powell-splits-with-son-michael-over-white-house-race-2008-10-20.html

And if McCain happens to be elected, he could appoint him to many administrative positions.

 

[iheartscience]

Date: 10/20/2008 6:31:35 PM
Author: starsapphire
But his son supports McCain.


http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/colin-powell-splits-with-son-michael-over-white-house-race-2008-10-20.html

And the reason that doesn''t matter is that I didn''t even know Powell had a son!

 

[trillionaire]

The politics of politics...

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/20/us/politics/20powell.html?em

 

[starsapphire]

Date: 10/20/2008 8:10:09 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 10/20/2008 6:31:35 PM
Author: starsapphire
But his son supports McCain.


http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/colin-powell-splits-with-son-michael-over-white-house-race-2008-10-20.html

And the reason that doesn''t matter is that I didn''t even know Powell had a son!

OH, I suppose he does not matter just because he held the lowly office of Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman!

You know, I would not want someone like that''s endorsement either, cause really, the FCC means nothing, and being the CHAIRMAN of the FCC, really is not influential at all.

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 10/21/2008 3:08:14 PM
Author: starsapphire

Date: 10/20/2008 8:10:09 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 10/20/2008 6:31:35 PM
Author: starsapphire
But his son supports McCain.


http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/colin-powell-splits-with-son-michael-over-white-house-race-2008-10-20.html

And the reason that doesn''t matter is that I didn''t even know Powell had a son!

OH, I suppose he does not matter just because he held the lowly office of Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman!

You know, I would not want someone like that''s endorsement either, cause really, the FCC means nothing, and being the CHAIRMAN of the FCC, really is not influential at all.

and the flame face is necessary because???

 

[starsapphire]

Because I felt that the comment about his son was very dismissive. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[starsapphire]

Like Powell''s son''s endorsement of McCain doesn''t mean squat. He is a distinguished person as well.

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 10/21/2008 3:28:00 PM
Author: starsapphire
Because I felt that the comment about his son was very dismissive. Correct me if I am wrong.

Dismissive or not, I don''t see how that warrants an emoticon that tends to be reserved for anger. People keep crying about the snark around here, one would think someone would avoid the flame. In the end tho, the son pales in comparison to the father. It''s not just the fact that Colin Powell is a well respected Republican, it''s that he''s been friends with McCain for 25 years. I think his endorsement speaks volumes. The fact that his son supports McCain is pretty irrelevant.

One other thing which is off topic. I was wondering if you were able to consolidate your posts. Do you know how to use the edit function? I noticed that you will post two or three posts back to back all about the same subject when it could have all be compiled into one post. Not being snarky, just saying.

 

[ChargerGrrl]

Date: 10/21/2008 3:08:14 PM
Author: starsapphire

Date: 10/20/2008 8:10:09 PM
Author: thing2of2

Date: 10/20/2008 6:31:35 PM
Author: starsapphire
But his son supports McCain.


http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/colin-powell-splits-with-son-michael-over-white-house-race-2008-10-20.html

And the reason that doesn''t matter is that I didn''t even know Powell had a son!

OH, I suppose he does not matter just because he held the lowly office of Federal Communications Commission (FCC) Chairman!

You know, I would not want someone like that''s endorsement either, cause really, the FCC means nothing, and being the CHAIRMAN of the FCC, really is not influential at all.

Oh, he was certainly influential- i won''t argue that. But ask most folks in the industry, and they don''t have a good thing to say about him

 

[starsapphire]

You know, the simple fact of this board is this: If someone starts a thread, and you don''t agree with the statement, then if you post something to the contrary, you are flamed. I feel like this place stinks. I post something and I am "flamed" by the original poster, and then I get criticism for an emoticon?!? Oh, and I am polluting the board envirnonment on here with multiple posts. Nice. You all are such nice, friendly people as long as you are voting for Obama. If you aren''t, I guess you are scum.

 

[MoonWater]

Date: 10/21/2008 3:46:09 PM
Author: starsapphire
You know, the simple fact of this board is this: If someone starts a thread, and you don''t agree with the statement, then if you post something to the contrary, you are flamed. I feel like this place stinks. I post something and I am ''flamed'' by the original poster, and then I get criticism for an emoticon?!? Oh, and I am polluting the board envirnonment on here with multiple posts. Nice. You all are such nice, friendly people as long as you are voting for Obama. If you aren''t, I guess you are scum.

Seriously, what is the deal? I thought the emoticon indicated that you were angry (it is called angry fire after all, seems to have that angry look as well), I wanted to know why you were angry. Someone doesn''t find relevance in Junior''s endorsement. Big deal. Where you really angered by that?

As far as polluting when did I say that? What does it have to do with being an Obama supporter? I don''t care who you are or what you believe, what is the point in making multple posts about the same exact thing, in response to the same exact person, when you can say it all in one post? Unless you''re trying to build up your post count or something. I don''t get it.