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CDC has a patent on Ebola as an invention!

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I predict that ebola strains will continue to replicate and mutate as they please, and will completely ignore patents and other boundaries. :rolleyes: Bringing ebola into this country for any reason is crackpot and foolish.
 
Well, we are just about THE most paranoid country on the planet. We do just love thinking those evil folks at the CDC are trying to kill us all. So deliciously dystopian.

I'm no expert at patents, molecular biology, or genetics, but the little of the legalese mixed with biology-speak, tells me that it is not a "patent on ebola", but for the specific methods necessary to isolate portions of, and detect a particular novel strain of ebola being held by the CDD, with the end goal being either treatment or vaccine.

Maybe a few of our medically literate will chime in.
 
Once again, follow the money. :nono:
 
Or goal of "military weapon" was another suggested purpose, per the article. I still see no need to import ebola.
 
kenny|1407118263|3725599 said:
Once again, follow the money. :nono:


Yup. Plus one on what Kenny said.
 
Having done a bit of digging (what can I say, I'm a nerd that way) into the Budapest Treaty on the International Recognition of the Deposit of Microorganisms for the Purposes of Patent Procedure (which has been in force since 1980), and what constitutes an international depository authority and what types of microorganisms they do and do not accept, this patent application and the storage of the sample at the CDC makes rather more sense. If you read sources other than the dailypaul and/or other conspiracy-minded sites, (which are currently the only ones carrying anything hysterically shouting how the US has a "patent ON ebola". Uh, no. Granted, it ain't the easiest read, but still....), you begin to see that this is probably a version of a standard patent application for an invention(s) relating to and devloped using a particular biological agent, only this time the biological agent is too dangerous for a standard international depository authority facility and thus needs to be at the CDC.

"The treaty allows "deposits of microorganisms at an international depository authority to be recognized for the purposes of patent procedure".[3] Usually, in order to meet the legal requirement of sufficiency of disclosure, patent applications and patents must disclose in their description the subject-matter of the invention in a manner sufficiently clear and complete to be carried out by the person skilled in the art (see also: reduction to practice). When an invention involves a microorganism, completely describing said invention in the description to enable third parties to carry it out is usually impossible. This is why, in the particular case of inventions involving microorganisms, a deposit of biological material must be made in a recognised institution. The Budapest Treaty ensures that an applicant, i.e. a person who applies for a patent, needs not to deposit the biological material in all countries where he/she wants to obtain a patent. The applicant needs only to deposit the biological material at one recognised institution, and this deposit will be recognised in all countries party to the Budapest Treaty."

That above from Wikipedia. But that entry is well-linked and has some primary type sources if anyone is truly interested.

http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/registration/budapest/summary_budapest.html
http://www.wipo.int/export/sites/www/treaties/en/registration/budapest/pdf/ida.pdf - see pages 58-61


So, if a person takes a break from conspiracy/zombie/contagion-type entertainment, the scenario (in the article below) seems far more likely than a CDC staffed by budding Dr. Evils. Since the number of people killed by ebola is actually very small, it puts it into the "orphaned disease" category, meaning the only entity that seems to give a damn is the one most likely to be without a profit motive - the government. And since the assignors noted in the patent are (it appears) employees of the CDC, is it any wonder our own government would hold the patent on the intellectual accomplishments and inventions of employees in its employ? That's pretty standard everywhere.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/07/140731-ebola-drugs-vaccines-research-containment-science-health/

I don't deny that conspiracies can exist or that evil lurks in the hears of men, but assuming the absolute worst every.single.time is never my knee-jerk reaction or my first choice. This is a piece that absolutely NAILS IT, IMO.

‘Contagion’ Screenwriter: Ebola Isn’t the Pandemic. Fear Is. - What we should really be afraid of: our inability to assess risk."
http://time.com/3079518/ebola-outbreak-pandemic-fear/
 
ksinger|1407204802|3726186 said:
Having done a bit of digging (what can I say, I'm a nerd that way) into the Budapest Treaty on the International Recognition of the Deposit of Microorganisms for the Purposes of Patent Procedure (which has been in force since 1980), and what constitutes an international depository authority and what types of microorganisms they do and do not accept, this patent application and the storage of the sample at the CDC makes rather more sense.

Thank you for the really thorough research, K. I haven't had time to read all your sources, but will do so tomorrow. I am just impressed that you tracked them all down.

Deb
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AGBF|1407205562|3726193 said:
ksinger|1407204802|3726186 said:
Having done a bit of digging (what can I say, I'm a nerd that way) into the Budapest Treaty on the International Recognition of the Deposit of Microorganisms for the Purposes of Patent Procedure (which has been in force since 1980), and what constitutes an international depository authority and what types of microorganisms they do and do not accept, this patent application and the storage of the sample at the CDC makes rather more sense.

Thank you for the really thorough research, K. I haven't had time to read all your sources, but will do so tomorrow. I am just impressed that you tracked them all down.

Deb
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It didn't take that much effort really. I just read the abstract and then followed up on the parts I didn't understand, like the treaties and such - lots of info out there to give a person enough to then go back and read that patent and make real sense of it, rather than taking the word of some hysterical conspiracy site. I tend to randomly check even stuff that sounds reasonable and/or that I agree with, that whole bit about the US holding a "patent on ebola OMGOMGOMGOMG" sounded silly to me. And guess what?? It WAS! I guess I always come from a position of most things having a basis in something rational, and most people being basically decent and honest, and I need evidence to move me from that core assumption before I jump to the worst possible conclusion.

And as for the "follow the money" idea, follow the money indeed. Even THAT old saw doesn't hold up here because there IS no profit motive, for ANYONE, in curing ebola. I'm actually surprised anyone at all other than the doctors who go where angels fear to tread, give a single damn. So here's one last piece to throw a big 'ol bucket 'o cold water on what I call the "oogie factor" of ebola, and to bring the discussion firmly back down to reality.

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/4/5963751/the-real-cause-of-the-ebola-outbreak-its-not-what-you-think

Excerpt:

Ebola will continue to move through Africa — this time, and again in the future — not only because of the viral reservoirs and broken health systems specific to the continent. There are much larger issues at play here. Namely, the global institutions we designed to promote health innovation, trade, and investment perpetuate its spread and prevent its resolution.

This shouldn't be news. Most all of the money for research and development in health comes from the private sector. They naturally have a singular focus — making money — and they do that by selling patent-protected products to many people who can and are willing to pay very high monopoly prices. Not by developing medicines and vaccines for the world's poorest people, like those suffering with Ebola.

Right now, more money goes into fighting baldness and erectile dysfunction than hemorrhagic fevers like dengue or Ebola. In the graph below, you can see global pharmaceutical spending in 2013. Neglected diseases (ie., Ebola) got hardly any of the share of funding. These illnesses primarily grip people in developing countries and rely on investment from the public sector, which funds only a small fraction of total health R&D compared to industry. (In 2009, for example, $240 billion US was invested in health R&D. Of that, $214 billion went to high-income countries, and of that 60 percent came from industry, 30 percent from the public sector, and 10 percent from other sources.)

When a virus like Ebola does attract money, it's mainly from department of defense and not traditional disease research structures since Ebola is considered a potential bioterrorism weapon.

The result of this architecture of investments is that most health products that hit the market don't focus on sicknesses of the poor. Of the 850 health products approved by regulators between 2000 and 2011, only 37 focused on neglected diseases.
 
Ksinger, word.

Also, naturalnews can go intercourse itself.
 
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