Cathedral ring design help

[sindiamonds1]

Hi all! Thanks to this community, i finally have a near ideal diamond within my budget :')

Lengthy post ahead: I would love some help
regarding the ring design I am going for. For context, my partner left me to do the ring design but has some preferences:
- Timeless design
- Ideal Top view: Solitaire with side diamonds on band
- Ideally, stackable/ wearable frequent basis

Here's the diamond i picked:


The ring design I have selected is as pictured:
- Cathedral setting with side diamonds on band
- Hidden halo via the gallery bar
- hidden collar at the bottom of the cathedral

Everything in white gold, except the hidden collar potentially in rose gold. I like this design as it's minimalistic and clean from the top, but yet, have nice sparkle and pop from the side!


I have some questions on the design:
- Is it safe for this setting of a 0.7ct diamond to not have a gallery bar completely? Considering my partner has plans to wear it often.
- if we choose to have the gallery bar, what do yall think of the hidden halo?


Second question:
- Would the hidden collar at the bottom prevent wedding ring stacking?
- Is it weird if I were to raise it a little by increasing the height of the bridge?


Last question:
- i am thinking of a few options per screenshot to have a little rose gold pop
- which do yall feel will look the least awkward, and will not result in a rose gold tinge on the main diamond?


At the end of the day, my partner is super sweet and understanding - am sure she would love whatever i gave her.. still, i want to do the best for her!

Thank you so much!!

 

[SandraLynn]

Very pretty ring. If she wants to stack maybe get a thin spacer band to help protect the hidden halo stones.

 

[tyty333]

I'll try to answer some of your questions.

I have some questions on the design:
- Is it safe for this setting of a 0.7ct diamond to not have a gallery bar completely? Considering my partner has plans to wear it often.
- if we choose to have the gallery bar, what do yall think of the hidden halo?

The gallery bar and hidden halo are the same thing. Its just that the gallery bar has pave diamonds on it with the "hidden halo".
In this case you would never have both so your second question is a bit confusing.

Second question:
- Would the hidden collar at the bottom prevent wedding ring stacking?
- Is it weird if I were to raise it a little by increasing the height of the bridge?

The diamonds from the hidden collar will eat into any ring she wears next to it because the diamonds will most likely stick out
further than the shank of the ring. She would near to wear a thin spacer (as recommended by @SandraLynn ) so it doesnt
eat into a good ring/wedding band.
Raising the height of the bride will raise the height of the head (not a good idea IMO). It's already going to be on the higher
side due to the collar. You need to ask the CAD designer how high the top of the stone will be from her finger.

Last question:
- i am thinking of a few options per screenshot to have a little rose gold pop
- which do yall feel will look the least awkward, and will not result in a rose gold tinge on the main diamond?

I would either just do the collar in rose gold or maybe the collar and shank part that leads up to the collar.

Looks to be a nice stone BTW. Please do come back with pics when its all done. Would love to see it!

 

[jewels4life]

Hi all! Thanks to this community, i finally have a near ideal diamond within my budget :')

Lengthy post ahead: I would love some help
regarding the ring design I am going for. For context, my partner left me to do the ring design but has some preferences:
- Timeless design
- Ideal Top view: Solitaire with side diamonds on band
- Ideally, stackable/ wearable frequent basis

Here's the diamond i picked:


The ring design I have selected is as pictured:
- Cathedral setting with side diamonds on band
- Hidden halo via the gallery bar
- hidden collar at the bottom of the cathedral

Everything in white gold, except the hidden collar potentially in rose gold. I like this design as it's minimalistic and clean from the top, but yet, have nice sparkle and pop from the side!


I have some questions on the design:
- Is it safe for this setting of a 0.7ct diamond to not have a gallery bar completely? Considering my partner has plans to wear it often.
- if we choose to have the gallery bar, what do yall think of the hidden halo?


Second question:
- Would the hidden collar at the bottom prevent wedding ring stacking?
- Is it weird if I were to raise it a little by increasing the height of the bridge?


Last question:
- i am thinking of a few options per screenshot to have a little rose gold pop
- which do yall feel will look the least awkward, and will not result in a rose gold tinge on the main diamond?


At the end of the day, my partner is super sweet and understanding - am sure she would love whatever i gave her.. still, i want to do the best for her!

Thank you so much!!

Can’t wait to see the finished ring! Love the setting , looks very similar to mine from jaan Paul .

 

[sindiamonds1]

I'll try to answer some of your questions.



The gallery bar and hidden halo are the same thing. Its just that the gallery bar has pave diamonds on it with the "hidden halo".
In this case you would never have both so your second question is a bit confusing.




The diamonds from the hidden collar will eat into any ring she wears next to it because the diamonds will most likely stick out
further than the shank of the ring. She would near to wear a thin spacer (as recommended by @SandraLynn ) so it doesnt
eat into a good ring/wedding band.
Raising the height of the bride will raise the height of the head (not a good idea IMO). It's already going to be on the higher
side due to the collar. You need to ask the CAD designer how high the top of the stone will be from her finger.



I would either just do the collar in rose gold or maybe the collar and shank part that leads up to the collar.

Looks to be a nice stone BTW. Please do come back with pics when its all done. Would love to see it!

Thanks for your response! For the first question, i was wondering if I should remove the gallery rails altogether to display the diamond instead.

However, i saw online that it's more secure to have the gallery rails. Is that true? What are your thoughts regarding hidden halo design gallery rails?

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The current head is about 6.5mm elevated. Is that very high for a 0.7ct? Regardless, seems like with the collar, the recommendation is to get a spacer

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Same thoughts on the rose gold too! I think having just the collar in rose gold seems to add a nice pop + reduce the chance of rose gold reflecting within the main diamond

 

[sindiamonds1]

Can’t wait to see the finished ring! Love the setting , looks very similar to mine from jaan Paul .

Ahh im from singapore so jann paul was the first store i went too! Love everything about it but the price haha

Yes! Took a few inspiration from multiple jann paul rings and tried piecing them together for a more unique but timeless take.

It's very heartening to hear all the positive comments on the design - will definitely post the finished ring in a few weeks time!

 

[jewels4life]

Ahh im from singapore so jann paul was the first store i went too! Love everything about it but the price haha

Yes! Took a few inspiration from multiple jann paul rings and tried piecing them together for a more unique but timeless take.

It's very heartening to hear all the positive comments on the design - will definitely post the finished ring in a few weeks time!

Oh yes, I totally get that ha ha . Mine has the hidden collar at the bottom and baby decagons in the band . I adore it . I’m Positive yours will be stunning !

 

[sindiamonds1]

Oh yes, I totally get that ha ha . Mine has the hidden collar at the bottom and baby decagons in the band . I adore it . I’m Positive yours will be stunning !

Ahh decogans melee are gorgeous!! Does your ring has gallery rails protecting the side of the diamond? Or is it exposed?
- i can see the beauty of exposing the diamond (full side profile) but also understand the logic of having it for security purposes

I am leaning towards having the rails.. while my gf might prefer the look of an exposed side, she probably would appreciate the security a rail provides more.


Do you stack your wedding band with the engagement ring? Since yours have the hidden collar too

 

[jewels4life]

Ahh decogans melee are gorgeous!! Does your ring has gallery rails protecting the side of the diamond? Or is it exposed?
- i can see the beauty of exposing the diamond (full side profile) but also understand the logic of having it for security purposes

Do you stack your wedding band with the engagement ring? Since yours have the hidden collar too

Since I got a decagon as my main stone, I went with the setting that had the baby ones in it also
Couldn’t resist ha ha . I only wear that ring by itself incase of it rubbing against other bands. I’ll attach a picture of it . No gallery rails on mine.

 

[sindiamonds1]

Since I got a decagon as my main stone, I went with the setting that had the baby ones in it also
Couldn’t resist ha ha . I only wear that ring by itself incase of it rubbing against other bands. I’ll attach a picture of it . No gallery rails on mine.

Whst a stunner :') what size is the main stone if I may ask? Looks perfect on your fingers!

 

[jewels4life]

Whst a stunner :') what size is the main stone if I may ask? Looks perfect on your fingers!

Thanks so much ! It is a 0.85 and my finger size is 3.5 .

 

[sindiamonds1]

Thanks so much ! It is a 0.85 and my finger size is 3.5 .

Thank you!!

 

[sindiamonds1]

Just checking in to see if there's more opinions as I will be finalizing the design soon. Thanks for the help so far!

 

[Lookinagain]

- Timeless design
- Ideal Top view: Solitaire with side diamonds on band
- Ideally, stackable/ wearable frequent basis

So, your partner hasn't asked for stones on the gallery and wants to stack. so I would say don't have stones on the gallery. They will eat into anything stacked with it.
As far as raising the height, I would not do it. It is already fairly high. Personally, I'd lower it a bit for safety reasons.

 

[emmy12]

The advantage of having the gallery rail on the head is that the cathedral shoulders will have something to join up with, rather than having the tips of those shoulders floating in air (and potentially getting caught on things) so for a cathedral I'd want that rail present.

If the prongs are white and stone is well cut (i.e. without leakage) I don't think you rose gold on the collar or bridge would have much impact.

The design is gorgeous BTW! Can't wait to see the final!

 

[sindiamonds1]

So, your partner hasn't asked for stones on the gallery and wants to stack. so I would say don't have stones on the gallery. They will eat into anything stacked with it.
As far as raising the height, I would not do it. It is already fairly high. Personally, I'd lower it a bit for safety reasons.

Thanks for your thoughts @Lookinagain!

Without anything at the gallery section, I feel that the design would be quite common. I know I should focus on getting something my partner would like, but at the same time, I see an engagement ring as my expression of my love for her, and want it to be slightly unique/special and one of a kind ><

She did mention that she doesn't want a ring that's too common thus the addition of the hidden halo and collar (potentially in rose gold). Initially, I wanted to add in side diamonds on the bridge section. But I heard how diamonds along the side of the band are generally discouraged.

I probably will keep the height and get a spacer for her next time then - should I keep the collar! Thank you (:

 

[sindiamonds1]

The advantage of having the gallery rail on the head is that the cathedral shoulders will have something to join up with, rather than having the tips of those shoulders floating in air (and potentially getting caught on things) so for a cathedral I'd want that rail present.

If the prongs are white and stone is well cut (i.e. without leakage) I don't think you rose gold on the collar or bridge would have much impact.

The design is gorgeous BTW! Can't wait to see the final!

You are so sweet, thanks for the comment on the design @emmy12 . I did spend a lot of time thinking about it haha

Regarding the gallery rail, I was thinking removing 2 sides out of the 4 sides (e.g. the shoulders will still join up with a small gallery rail, but the ones without the shoulders would be empty. Not sure if that makes sense! Maybe it might look a little weird having the gallery rail only on 2 sides, instead of 4?



Since my diamond is f color, it should be white enough hopefully! Might just set the collar in rose gold - thinking it will give just the right amount of pop while still keeping the ring classy and timeless hmmm

 

[emmy12]

You are so sweet, thanks for the comment on the design @emmy12 . I did spend a lot of time thinking about it haha

Regarding the gallery rail, I was thinking removing 2 sides out of the 4 sides (e.g. the shoulders will still join up with a small gallery rail, but the ones without the shoulders would be empty. Not sure if that makes sense! Maybe it might look a little weird having the gallery rail only on 2 sides, instead of 4?



Since my diamond is f color, it should be white enough hopefully! Might just set the collar in rose gold - thinking it will give just the right amount of pop while still keeping the ring classy and timeless hmmm

Yep that makes sense for the sides to do it that way with a cathedral, and one of my favourite ways I've seen them set with the profile of the gallery open. This would be a nice middle ground I'd you want the side gallery open!

 

[sindiamonds1]

Yep that makes sense for the sides to do it that way with a cathedral, and one of my favourite ways I've seen them set with the profile of the gallery open. This would be a nice middle ground I'd you want the side gallery open!

exactly! So im thinking about the side gallery option or the hidden halo. Personally, I just like the hidden halo (when done well) since it gives an additional rounded feel and bling to the main stone when viewed slightly tilted to the side.

I know it's a matter of personal preference, but seeking a ladies perspective, would you have preferred a open side gallery? or a hidden halo for a cathedral setting?

With the addition of the collar and hidden halo, am i overcomplicating the ring?

 

[tyty333]

I think only 2 sides on the basket will look funny/strange/incomplete. Either do a basket with bars/halo or don't do it at all (my opinion).
If you want cathedral you sort of need to have bars/halo for the bars to have something to end on.

I personally would skip the collar. I think the collar AND the hidden halo are a bit much. This ring is not for me though. Its for your GF. You'll get lots of different opinions on here and at some point, you need to quit asking and just do it because you'll get overwhelmed with all the varied opinions.

Can you get a wax of the ring? I would advise on it so you can see the proportions and how it's going to look in 3D.

 

[sindiamonds1]

I think only 2 sides on the basket will look funny/strange/incomplete. Either do a basket with bars/halo or don't do it at all (my opinion).
If you want cathedral you sort of need to have bars/halo for the bars to have something to end on.

I personally would skip the collar. I think the collar AND the hidden halo are a bit much. This ring is not for me though. Its for your GF. You'll get lots of different opinions on here and at some point, you need to quit asking and just do it because you'll get overwhelmed with all the varied opinions.

Can you get a wax of the ring? I would advise on it so you can see the proportions and how it's going to look in 3D.

Thank you so much! Im probably trying too hard to add in the small details here and there when my partner would prefer something simpler.

Yes, they will eventually give the wax, but usually thats pretty late in the design process and when design is finalised :/

 

[sindiamonds1]

Update:

Went down to talk to the designer and they showed me a similar design (but not cathedral and with oval pink sapphire) and I do quite like it. Their craftmanship seems pretty good so that gives me confidence that the hidden halo will be executed well.



Decided to keep the design for now, while making the side profile a little more delicate (e.g. slightly thinner hidden halo with smaller diamonds etc). They will render the rose gold options for me to see + decided to keep the setting as low as possible.

Have requested for a 3D mold before moving it to production thanks again for the feedback so far, it really helps in showing me what questions to ask and potential areas to watch out for.

 

[sindiamonds1]

Don't mind me but the designer edited the render as per the changes we discussed and I love the flow of the ring even more now

I am wondering if yall would pick:
- cathedral vs no cathedral



- rose gold collar vs white gold?



Personally, i probably would go for cathedral as it seems to flow better and cathedral appears safer for a higher set ring like this one.

As for the rose gold collar, im kinda on the fence. There are times when I love it, while other times, i worry it would look awkward with the rest of the ring. Not sure if the rose gold will reflect in the diamond either :/

On the flipside, I'm afraid that having it fully in white gold is a little bland

Would love to hear all your opinions!

 

[molecule]

I prefer the all white gold cathedral. What about using rubies or pink sapphire in the collar to add some color?

 

[tyty333]

Prefer cathedral...the collar is such a small area so if you want to do it in rose gold I have no problem
with that.

 

[sindiamonds1]

I prefer the all white gold cathedral. What about using rubies or pink sapphire in the collar to add some color?

Appreciate the suggestion! I would love that but sadly my partner isn't a fan of precious stones i added a blue topaz at the underside because that's our birthstone haha

 

[sindiamonds1]

Prefer cathedral...the collar is such a small area so if you want to do it in rose gold I have no problem
with that.

Thank you! Yea i think having a rose gold collar will still be quite subtle. Guessing since its such a small area, i probably dont have to worry about the diamond having rose gold tinge as well :X

 

[sindiamonds1]

Update:

Here're some picture and video of the diamond in the cathedral setting. Diamond will be set lower where the hidden halo is somewhere in between it haha

Video link here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ISxWRMJHjc60KHp66CTktJRka5gGP0Mg/view?usp=drivesdk

Will opt for full white gold because it's hard for me to picture how the rose gold will interplay with the rest of the ring. Also, partner asked for something timeless so white gold is probably the safest option :/

Hows the diamond and setting? Anything to look out for before sending it in for production? Thank you

 

[tyty333]

How wide is the shank? It looks awfully thin.

You might want to tell them what kind of prongs you want. I like using this picture from Whiteflash to get the point across.

What prong styles does Whiteflash offer?

Across our entire catalogue of designer items, as well as Whiteflash designs, you will see a full range of prong styles. In many cases, we can accommodate a customer’s preference.

www.whiteflash.com

 

[sindiamonds1]

How wide is the shank? It looks awfully thin.

You might want to tell them what kind of prongs you want. I like using this picture from Whiteflash to get the point across.

What prong styles does Whiteflash offer?

Across our entire catalogue of designer items, as well as Whiteflash designs, you will see a full range of prong styles. In many cases, we can accommodate a customer’s preference.

www.whiteflash.com

Think the shank is 16mm tapered to 14mm at the top right now! I did tell them as well that i would prefer it to be 18mm tapered to 16mm instead planning to keep it petite to accommodate the smaller diamond.

Same for the prong- i like petite claw!! I also told them to ensure the melee diamond is of a comparable quality to main diamond - fingers crossed.

Thanks so much!