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Cartier Solitaire 1895 18K Gold

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Does anybody out there have a picture of this ring other than the stock images? I'm ordering this for my girlfriend most likely. Waiting on them to get back to me on some options since they don't stock this ring in gold.

Thanks in advance!

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Sorry - I don't have a picture of the ring but it is quite beautiful!

Is it possible to have the prongs done in platinum rather than yellow gold?
 
No, they don't seem to. Platinum prongs are more durable I take it?
 
More durable, and if the diamond reflects any colour from the prongs, yellow gold will make it seem more yellow, whereas platinum shouldn't have an effect.
 
I see! Well she really really loves yellow gold so I'm sure she knows that stuff :)

I'm between the Cartier and the Birks North East South West:
http://www.birks.com/en/featured/Engagement/Solitaire-Engagement-Rings/g64-712/895285

I'm leaning towards the Cartier right now but the downside is that I don't live anywhere near a Cartier boutique so I've been talking to them over the phone. The Birks would be easy to arrange but I think she will like the Cartier better.
 
I also wouldn't consider a setting that didn't have platinum for the prongs. I wouldn't want yellow reflecting in the stone and I do not think 98% of women would know about that. I don't like the Birks setting at all.

Do you think the brand is the most important thing to her? Because there are custom ring makers who make a setting equal to the quality of Cartier and then you could choose a superior or larger diamond with the money you would have paid for the brand name. I like Cartier a lot, but not for a diamond solitaire.
 
Not a big fan of the Burke setting
 
The brand is not an important consideration and I have looked around at local jewellers and other settings and I have found a couple things in my experience. The first being that yellow gold is not popular and therefore I have less to choose from. The second being that I am looking for something quite simple that still has an interesting, quality setting and I'm not coming up with much (I don't think I'm that creative in this department).

Cartier and other named jewellers allow me the diamond and price that I want to get. I'm looking at D, VVS1, .90 ct. and it's within budget. She doesn't want a very large diamond so yes, I could go bigger but the setting is my main concern.

Still looking for anyone who might actually have that 1895 in yellow gold to post a picture, I know it's a long shot!
 
Here are pics of the platinum 1895: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/here-it-is-cartier-1895.165967/. I don't think I've seen a YG version of it here.

There's disagreement as to whether YG prongs make the center diamond look yellow or not. Some say yes; some say no: https://www.pricescope.com/communit...llow-gold-prongs-diamond-looks-yellow.151571/

These aren't pics of the 1895, but they are pics of rings with YG prongs, and each has colorless centers.
D color center: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/newly-engaged-showing-off-my-0-74-ct.155770/
F color center: https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-new-quest-e-ring.45361/

HTH
 
Thanks for those posts, they're helpful!
 
Okay, that is good to know that you are after quality moreso than brand. You can actually get better quality if you go custom. You could get Victor Canera, for example, to make the solitaire setting with yellow gold shank and platinum head in the design that is like Cartier's:

http://www.victorcanera.com/jewelry/engagement-rings/the-trueste-solitaire.html

Then, I am certain you can get a superior diamond because Cartier's are going to be excellent cut, but not necessarily super ideal cut, the very top cut quality diamonds, Cut is more important than any other factor in regard to the beauty of the diamond. And D-E VVS1-VVS2 is all going to look the same to the eye.:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2763628.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2599695.htm

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9149/

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.928-e-vvs1-round-diamond-ags-104055878078
 
The Birk's does NOT appeal to me - it looks 'clunky' with the N,S,E,W prongs. And Cartier - could be hard to find here in Canada. I agree w DS - use one of the custom vendors here from PS and you will get a better product at the same price.

What do you think of DS's stones she's posted and the VC setting?
 
Ha, not much love for the Birks one at all! I've seen it in person and it's actually quite nice IMHO. The diamond really floats in the setting... Anyways, it's no longer my preference. Thank you for the Victor Canera link, I will look into that some more as well as those super ideal cut stones! It's very similar to the Cartier so that just might work!
 
Great! Many of us originally came on the forum just like you did, and ended up with much nicer quality rings than we would have otherwise. We have had shoppers actually go to Cartier, Tiffany, etc. and get the actual diamond certificates and we saw that they were very nice stones, but not as ideal in cut as the ones we can access from a few of these vendors. Victor is top notch and does incredible work, certainly as good or better than any of the luxury jewelers.
 
I've seen the Birks setting in real life and I think it's beautiful. It's so much more delicate than the photos and I think the NESW prongs are very unique.
 
diamondseeker2006|1332443500|3154459 said:
Okay, that is good to know that you are after quality moreso than brand. You can actually get better quality if you go custom. You could get Victor Canera, for example, to make the solitaire setting with yellow gold shank and platinum head in the design that is like Cartier's:

http://www.victorcanera.com/jewelry/engagement-rings/the-trueste-solitaire.html

Then, I am certain you can get a superior diamond because Cartier's are going to be excellent cut, but not necessarily super ideal cut, the very top cut quality diamonds, Cut is more important than any other factor in regard to the beauty of the diamond. And D-E VVS1-VVS2 is all going to look the same to the eye.:

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2763628.htm

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cuhttp://www.fedex.com/Tracking?ascend_header=1&clienttype=dotcom&cntry_code=us&language=english&tracknumbers=508107852755t-loose-diamond-2599695.htm

http://www.goodoldgold.com/diamond/9149/

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/0.928-e-vvs1-round-diamond-ags-104055878078
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Hi DS! Just want to clarify- into sure what you meant. I would agree sometimes, in fact many times you can get better quality with custom, and of course you can often get better quality diamonds.

I would respectfully disagree with you if meant you can top he quality of this particular setting.
 
Phone, sorry.

This is a signature Cartier setting (ring) like the Trinity ring. I've never seen anyone even the best optIons that can equal it. In particular with the 1895, the prongs only look "original" on the original to me.

As well as a Cartier enthusiast I'm a yellow gold fan. I think it would be great if PS could have a SMTB thread on this ring in gold!

Cheers.

Danny
 
Personally I am not a fan of yellow gold with platinum prongs. I know many people like it for various reasons, but for aesthetic reasons I don't. I find it really weird to have the prongs a different color than the band most of the time, and for many rings think it destroys the flow of the design.
 
Most yellow gold rings that I have ever seen in my lifetime had white gold/platinum heads. The reason is to make it as invisible as possible to let the diamond be the focus of attention. Yellow prong tips DO reflect in the stone. You will not see that with white metal prongs.

Danny, I can honestly say that my Vatche tiffany repro setting looks better than the original. And while someone like VC might not be able to improve on the Cartier solitaire, he most certainly has the skill to make one as beautiful. He has made many of the most beautiful rings ever posted on the forum. I would not sacrifice diamond quality to get a Cartier setting.
 
DS, Victor's Cartier repro is on his site. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We will agree to disagree.
 
I prefer all Yg as well. I think you should stick with Cartier or get a different style of custom ring.
 
Imdanny|1332511730|3155056 said:
DS, Victor's Cartier repro is on his site. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. We will agree to disagree.
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Danny, that is Victor's own solitaire. It can be custom tweaked any way one desires. I don't think the Trueste is meant to be a "copy" of the Cartier, but it is similar. It just illustrates that Victor is capable of making the same setting if one wants it. I don't think the 1895 design can still be under copyright. And I think it would be crazy to pay for the Cartier setting and get an inferior diamond considering they aren't after the brand name. If they want a top quality diamond, they should go with a hearts and arrows ideal cut. That is why I asked if the branding was the most important factor to them, and he said it was not.
 
DS, I'm not criticizing your advise! I'm just giving my opinions. And I hope I've done that in a respectful way. So we don't agree on this. That's fine! It would be a very boring world if everyone agreed on everything all the time.
 
Imdanny|1332542067|3155325 said:
DS, I'm not criticizing your advise! I'm just giving my opinions. And I hope I've done that in a respectful way. So we don't agree on this. That's fine! It would be a very boring world if everyone agreed on everything all the time.
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Hugs to you my friend!!! You are right that there is not a single thing wrong with preferring the Cartier! I actually would never buy a Trinity ring that wasn't Cartier.
 
distracts|1332484426|3154920 said:
Personally I am not a fan of yellow gold with platinum prongs. I know many people like it for various reasons, but for aesthetic reasons I don't. I find it really weird to have the prongs a different color than the band most of the time, and for many rings think it destroys the flow of the design.
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I agree entirely. It might be different in real life, though I don't like my mother's ring for this reason. It does break up the flow. The rings in the two links here with yellow gold prongs are so lovely!
 
So after some back and forth with Cartier, I think I will abandon their product. The YG setting is a "special order" for some reason. The worst part is, they want to charge significantly more to get the YG ring than platinum!? I love the design of this ring but I'm already paying a premium for Cartier and now I'm paying more on top of that for something so simple... doesn't seem worth it at all any more.

I think I'm going to get a stone (possibly setting too) from WF
 
I think you'll be happy with that decision - using WF or another online PS vendor. Seems like Cartier was making things more difficult??

What style did you decide on?
 
Yeah dealing with them hasn't been a breeze. They actually called me back to tell me they made a mistake and the YG is actually less (duh)... just annoying all the back and forth without any real information changing hands.

I haven't decided on a style as yet... I really like the W-Prong from WF but I'm having a hard time picturing exactly how wide it is and how that will look with a .91 ct stone on it. I also came across a lovely Vatche setting (pictured) that is very similar to the Cartier 1895 and if I go this route I'll at least know that I have the stone that I want without settling and that setting is lovely too!u%20100%20traditional%203%20view%20large.jpg
 
My daughter actually has the Vatche ring almost identical to that called the Vatche Caroline. Hers has tiny diamonds on the side bars of the basket, but you can hardly see them. It is a very nicely proportioned ring and I highly recommend it! Her diamond (1.15 cts.) and ring came from WF. They can order any of the Vatche rings.

A few pictures:

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