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I have seen several sites that will show what different diameter round stones will look like on the selected size of finger, but I couldn't find any of them to post...
The look of the ring will depend on more than just the ring size. If her fingers are long, thin, and graceful, then these sites will be more accurate to how it will look. However, if her fingers are on the thick side (small size, but short and pudgy), it will have a different look. I wear a size 5.25, but there are a lot of PS members whose fingers are 6+ that look thinner than mine!
A size 4 is pretty small, so you're lucky that a stone of any size will appear larger on her hand than on the average woman's hand. If you're worried about size and presence, then you may want to consider a three stone or halo setting to maximize the whole look.
The look of the ring will depend on more than just the ring size. If her fingers are long, thin, and graceful, then these sites will be more accurate to how it will look. However, if her fingers are on the thick side (small size, but short and pudgy), it will have a different look. I wear a size 5.25, but there are a lot of PS members whose fingers are 6+ that look thinner than mine!
A size 4 is pretty small, so you're lucky that a stone of any size will appear larger on her hand than on the average woman's hand. If you're worried about size and presence, then you may want to consider a three stone or halo setting to maximize the whole look.
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OP, I spoke too soon! Here is an older thread that may help you...
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-size-4-fingers-with-the-bling.71186/
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/show-me-your-size-4-fingers-with-the-bling.71186/
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What's your budget? Because that will dictate a lot. What social circles are you in? What is the "norm" around your area? Would she feel self conscious or be in danger of being robbed if the ring was too flashy or big?
Have you gone ring shopping with her? Do you have any idea what shape stone she even wants? ETA: nevermind - I see she wants round. Some shapes face up smaller (princess), average (round - "normal"), or large (marquis, oval) per carat weight.
The quality of the cut - in any shape stone - is of utmost importance. An ideal cut stone will face up larger and whiter than a poorly cut one, and the optics are what creates the sparkle that you want.
Is it possible to go ring shopping with her? Find out how big she feels comfortable wearing, and what type of ring she wants (solitaire, halo, etc). Or maybe ask her friends.
She has a nice small finger, so a smaller stone will look proportionally larger on her finger than the same diameter stone on a size 10 finger.
Sorry if all of that sounded random and disjointed. I was just trying to get some thoughts out.
Have you gone ring shopping with her? Do you have any idea what shape stone she even wants? ETA: nevermind - I see she wants round. Some shapes face up smaller (princess), average (round - "normal"), or large (marquis, oval) per carat weight.
The quality of the cut - in any shape stone - is of utmost importance. An ideal cut stone will face up larger and whiter than a poorly cut one, and the optics are what creates the sparkle that you want.
Is it possible to go ring shopping with her? Find out how big she feels comfortable wearing, and what type of ring she wants (solitaire, halo, etc). Or maybe ask her friends.
She has a nice small finger, so a smaller stone will look proportionally larger on her finger than the same diameter stone on a size 10 finger.
Sorry if all of that sounded random and disjointed. I was just trying to get some thoughts out.
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I found this site to be really helpful. You can adjust finger size and compare different sized/shaped stones.
http://www.diamdb.com/
http://www.diamdb.com/
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man..the thread and that app are really helpful guys! 
but yeah i agreed that the same size will look relatively bigger on her finger than on the finger of Hulk.
can't go shopping with her...meant to be a surprise and so i am doing all the research. my budget is <$15K and i know she was a solitaire so i have a little room on upping the size but not to get too bulky, assuming i am getting a H&A/excellent. D-G, and >VS2.
just put three rocks on hold and waiting for the GG to call back...
but yeah i agreed that the same size will look relatively bigger on her finger than on the finger of Hulk.
can't go shopping with her...meant to be a surprise and so i am doing all the research. my budget is <$15K and i know she was a solitaire so i have a little room on upping the size but not to get too bulky, assuming i am getting a H&A/excellent. D-G, and >VS2.
just put three rocks on hold and waiting for the GG to call back...
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wesli|1378319419|3514463 said:
How about these, wesli?
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-dia...-f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-178046 $13,410 - HCA 1.9 *super icy-white*
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut/1.53-carat-h-color-vs2-clarity-sku-125571 $13,890 - HCA 1.1 *my fave*
http://www.jamesallen.com/loose-dia...h-color-vvs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-239969 $13,720 - HCA 1.1
hey msop04, i love your suggestions!! they all look great but i just want your opinions on couple things:
1. you think the SI1 would still be eye clean? i've looking for >VS2 and am trying to avoid inclusion on the table but open to options.
2. as far as i know, gf would like to rock to be as white as possible, you think H would be too yellowish?
1. you think the SI1 would still be eye clean? i've looking for >VS2 and am trying to avoid inclusion on the table but open to options.
2. as far as i know, gf would like to rock to be as white as possible, you think H would be too yellowish?
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wesli|1378353769|3514803 said:
I'm not sure about the SI1 -- you would need to have a JA rep look at it to verify either way... and, no, an H will in no way look yellow.
Most people start to notice some tint in the I/J range, but only from the side. Face up, even a J in an excellent cut stone will be white (my J looks very white face up!). I wouldn't worry about an H at all. If you are interested in any/all of the three stones, you can put them on hold with JA and have them evaluate and compare them for you. I would hold them ASAP though, in order to keep someone else from scooping them up.
FWIW, if the F stone is clean, it's a great deal -- if not, that H looks really good! Let us know what you decide. H was never in my search before..maybe I should check them out more before I make a decision
And one of the things I read was if I color is the lowest color you should go if you are setting the diamond on white gold since the yellowish will get amplified by the relative whiteness the ring…is that valid?
And one of the things I read was if I color is the lowest color you should go if you are setting the diamond on white gold since the yellowish will get amplified by the relative whiteness the ring…is that valid?
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wesli|1378401215|3515054 said:H was never in my search before..maybe I should check them out more before I make a decision
And one of the things I read was if I color is the lowest color you should go if you are setting the diamond on white gold since the yellowish will get amplified by the relative whiteness the ring…is that valid?
I don't agree with statement that at all.
I think that yellow gold can make even a D color appear yellow because it reflects the gold metal. I do think, however, that I color would be the lowest that I would go, personally, for a solitaire setting (or any other that would expose the sides). For some reason, I can't tell a G from an H when side by side, but it seems I can see a little difference in an H and I -- this is viewing from the side of course. Face up, a well cut I or J will be white. There are a few PS members that have K stones that face up white.
That said, I think you would be perfectly fine with an H color, regardless of setting or viewing angle.
Forgive me if you've already mentioned it, but what type of setting are you going with??
perhaps i had the bad experience at local jewels where the guy pulled a D, F and H and asked me to guess their grades. i was like off bat said "that is def H...its yellow!!' maybe that was bad bad H???
and so last night i started including H in my search on JA, WF, B2C (my preference order), and i couldn't find any H that i like. it looks to me there are much more choices of E-G than H! i wonder why?? i mean the price difference b/n G and H is like $1K..that is like 0.1 ct more for her you know??
oooh...the ideal setting would be a simple tiffany solitaire. haven't decided on 4/6 prongs but feel like 6 prongs are too much for a 1.2-1.3 ct round. but then i feel like 6 prongs are safer than 4 prongs (more prongs = lessly likely to fall out???...is that even true??
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as for metal, i heard the price premium of platinum is totally not worth it. its only cos its rarer and in fact white gold is more durable. not sure...haven't had time to reserach on that...
and so last night i started including H in my search on JA, WF, B2C (my preference order), and i couldn't find any H that i like. it looks to me there are much more choices of E-G than H! i wonder why?? i mean the price difference b/n G and H is like $1K..that is like 0.1 ct more for her you know??
oooh...the ideal setting would be a simple tiffany solitaire. haven't decided on 4/6 prongs but feel like 6 prongs are too much for a 1.2-1.3 ct round. but then i feel like 6 prongs are safer than 4 prongs (more prongs = lessly likely to fall out???...is that even true??
)as for metal, i heard the price premium of platinum is totally not worth it. its only cos its rarer and in fact white gold is more durable. not sure...haven't had time to reserach on that...
oooh...the ideal setting would be a simple tiffany solitaire. haven't decided on 4/6 prongs but feel like 6 prongs are too much for a 1.2-1.3 ct round. but then i feel like 6 prongs are safer than 4 prongs (more prongs = lessly likely to fall out???...is that even true??
as for metal, i heard the price premium of platinum is totally not worth it. its only cos its rarer and in fact white gold is more durable. not sure...haven't had time to reserach on that...
I'm kind of wondering the same thing about these two questions. I wonder if the experts could weigh in on these?
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wesli|1378423243|3515321 said:perhaps i had the bad experience at local jewels where the guy pulled a D, F and H and asked me to guess their grades. i was like off bat said "that is def H...its yellow!!' maybe that was bad bad H???
and so last night i started including H in my search on JA, WF, B2C (my preference order), and i couldn't find any H that i like. it looks to me there are much more choices of E-G than H! i wonder why?? i mean the price difference b/n G and H is like $1K..that is like 0.1 ct more for her you know??
oooh...the ideal setting would be a simple tiffany solitaire. haven't decided on 4/6 prongs but feel like 6 prongs are too much for a 1.2-1.3 ct round. but then i feel like 6 prongs are safer than 4 prongs (more prongs = lessly likely to fall out???...is that even true??
as for metal, i heard the price premium of platinum is totally not worth it. its only cos its rarer and in fact white gold is more durable. not sure...haven't had time to reserach on that...
Was it a GIA H?? An H should NEVER appear yellow. You probably didn't find as many H's because they are so in demand -- people snatch them up to maximize their budget!
As far as size goes, don't focus on the carat weight, compare the diameter (mm). If you happen to find a G or better that faces up the same or larger than it's carat weight in an H and the price is comparable, then get it! ...just make sure it has a good HCA and excellent cut.Six prong would not be too much for that size stone -- on a 0.5 maybe, but not a nice sized stone. 6 prongs will actually make the stone appear larger than 4 because it forces the eye all around the diamond (instead of just to the 4 corners).
...and, yes, 6 prongs are safer. Metal is a preference... I like 14K white gold. I will post why later. What field of work is she in -- this matters.
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Metal is a preference... I like 14K white gold. I will post why later. Well, it's later.
Their are pros and cons of every metal... this is my opinion, as others feel differently.
Platinum
Pros: more pure (no worries for allergies), doesn't have to be plated with rhodium, doesn't lose metal when being polished (is only displaced), heavier (some like this, some do not... I do)
Cons: more expensive, scratches more easily, has to be polished a lot, steely gray color (I prefer a shinier, bright metal), will patina with time (to a grayish color)
White Gold
Pros: less expensive, brighter/shinier metal (due to rhodium plating, although some alloys dont have to be plated at all)
Cons: potential for allergy to one of the alloy components (i.e. nickel), some alloys must be replated
14K - doesn't have to be plated nearly as often, less expensive
18K - has to be plated much more often due to it's higher gold content (also, it gets more "yellow" than 14K when needed to be replated), more expensive, better if having to due a lot of pave or filigree work (which is why it's sometimes preferred by whoever is making the ring)
X1 - a newer alloy for white gold that doesn't have to be plated and remains whiter than other alloys due to increased nickel content
I posted this photo in another thread, but just to show you the differences regarding having to replate 14K vs 18K over time... this is with about 5 months of wear. Notice the smaller bands are still bright and shiny white, while the bottom of the 18K ring looks duller and has a yellowish tint. (I baby my rings. If they ever even get wet, it's by accident. I don't clean, wash dishes, shower, or sleep in them).
FWIW, if I had it to do over again, I would have requested X1 white gold when having my ring made. If that was not a possibility, I would have chosen 14K, saved my money, and called it a day.
Their are pros and cons of every metal... this is my opinion, as others feel differently.
Platinum
Pros: more pure (no worries for allergies), doesn't have to be plated with rhodium, doesn't lose metal when being polished (is only displaced), heavier (some like this, some do not... I do)
Cons: more expensive, scratches more easily, has to be polished a lot, steely gray color (I prefer a shinier, bright metal), will patina with time (to a grayish color)
White Gold
Pros: less expensive, brighter/shinier metal (due to rhodium plating, although some alloys dont have to be plated at all)
Cons: potential for allergy to one of the alloy components (i.e. nickel), some alloys must be replated
14K - doesn't have to be plated nearly as often, less expensive
18K - has to be plated much more often due to it's higher gold content (also, it gets more "yellow" than 14K when needed to be replated), more expensive, better if having to due a lot of pave or filigree work (which is why it's sometimes preferred by whoever is making the ring)
X1 - a newer alloy for white gold that doesn't have to be plated and remains whiter than other alloys due to increased nickel content
I posted this photo in another thread, but just to show you the differences regarding having to replate 14K vs 18K over time... this is with about 5 months of wear. Notice the smaller bands are still bright and shiny white, while the bottom of the 18K ring looks duller and has a yellowish tint. (I baby my rings. If they ever even get wet, it's by accident.
I don't clean, wash dishes, shower, or sleep in them).FWIW, if I had it to do over again, I would have requested X1 white gold when having my ring made. If that was not a possibility, I would have chosen 14K, saved my money, and called it a day.
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wesli|1378317048|3514441 said:Perhaps it’s been asked already but couldn’t find anything in the forum, is there useful visual comparison on different carat sizes vs. hand?
My gf has a size 4 finger and I am wondering what would be a good size on her finger…of coz she’d want a big one but not bulky
Hi wesli, mine is a 1.6ct I-color diamond on a size 4 ring for your reference.
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/1-6ct-rb-xxx-i-color-si2-on-size-4-solitaire-ring.192061/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/1-6ct-rb-xxx-i-color-si2-on-size-4-solitaire-ring.192061/[/URL]
Good luck!
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