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Gene

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round H/I color, SI2/SI3/I1 clarity, .90-1.1 carat,
but here''s the catch -- i want medium blue fluoro,
and pavillion & crown angles must be known. Used
search engine on every single vendor site and find
nothing. The most important things to me, fluoro
and crown/pavillion, you cannot search by them, but
even if I scroll through all the results, i can''t
find what I want. Called a bunch of local stores,
too -- help? Even if you can view the certificate
online, it doesnt list crown & pavillion angles,
unless it''s EGL. There''s a setting I already have
picked out, which calls for 1 carat, but I''m about
ready to just give up, & put a Van Graff in there.
 

justme

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Gene -
I found this one - although I would ask why these specifications?

http://www.superbcert.com/products/index.cfm?Product_ID=243&Product_Subcategory_ID=2&Product_Category_ID=3&Product_Group_ID=1

You can see the cert and the cut specs on this site.

It's inventory number 1614 - BUT the FL is only faint.

Again why the importance on FL?
 

oldminer

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We have appraised thousands of diamonds for vendors local to the Philadelphia area. Few, if any, of these diamonds are listed on the Internet. Give us all your specs and I will run a search for you. If we find one or two, I will have the vendors give you a call.
 

diamondsman

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I have found one with med blue go to this address
http://www.buydiamonddirect.com/details/detailGIA.asp?ITEM=471872

the M stands for medium blue

good luck
 

aljdewey

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I found:

1.03; H, SI2, Med Fluor, Ideal Cut
http://www.bluenile.com/details.asp?pid=LD00678138&query=2&filter_id=0

This has the AGL grading report that you can view....lists crown/pav angles.

I suspect you "can't" find them because you're looking only at a search of pricescope. I tried that as well, and search yielded no results.

There are, however, 6-7 reputable vendors on here that you can email, (i.e. whiteflash, goodoldgold, bluenile, etc.) I would send each of them an email and ask them what they can do for you. I'm sure someone can come up with what you require. I found the one above by simply going to the site and plugging in the values you listed and then checking each for fluor. They can be found if you're willing to spend a little time looking.

Good luck.
 

Gene

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>Again why the importance on FL

Would I sound too shallow in saying, I like the diamonds
to just go crazy when we walk into nightclubs? =)

Also, she likes to think of her diamonds as being unique,
and fluoro is pretty distinctive. She says it's like
finding a guy! -- you're digging around, going through
all this dirt, then you see something sparkling. You're
not sure what it can be, but you grab him, clean him up
a bit, polish off his rough edges, and chain him down
(to a ring, in this case) -- then see if he's a good fit.
I ask her what rough edges I have, but she just laughs =)
hehe.. i love her metaphor.. so anyways, fl is unique...

and, of course, they're a better deal, cheaper to begin
with, and you can probably get away with lower color if
it fluoresces blue it'll look whiter (it's like fresh
snow, so white that it's blue.. ah..)

plus, simulants don't fluoresce, so you don't worry quite
so much about having your diamond switched when you come
in for re-sizing. it's easier to identify your sone.

Do I make a good case yet? =)
 

Gene

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Thanks aljdewey -- actually, I did email a few e-tailers,
including whiteflash, and never got back any replies. I
called to follow up, two days later, and they actually did
find me one, but when i came back from lunch and called,
the stone had already been sold. They're looking for others,
but so far haven't called/written me back. Whiteflash (or
their other fronts, like www.diamond-rings.cc or the
www.wholesale-diamonds.net), and bluenile, goodoldgold, etc,
all don't list the crown or pav angles, unless you get lucky
and it has a link to the EGL report, to view online. Makes
searching kinda hard -- I can see why people would take the
safe way out and get Hearts & Arrows cut, or "Ideal" cut...
 

optimized

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Gene,

I really like your answer(s) to the "why fluorescence?" question! With a purchase as "personal" and special as an engagement diamond, those kinds of reasons great, IMO! The metaphor indeed is cute, and you'll be able to tell the story of your search for years to come using that story.
In fact, you may be able to work a line in at parties and whatnot like, "Fluorescence is a unique quality of a relatively small percentage of the diamonds produced, and some consider it to be undesirable, but then again, I've heard the same thing said about me!" (partygoers chuckle).

From the replies here, the stone that aljdewey found at BlueNile seems to be an exact fit, meeting all your criteria, as well as having a pretty decent AGS "000" cut which I think scored a very respectable 1.5 on the HCA (I say "I think" because I often find BlueNile scans of certificates difficult to read on my monitor, so I'm not 100% sure I used the right numbers). Keep in mind, AGS certs also list crown/pavilion angles and percentages, so you may want to keep an eye out for the AGS certed stones as well. Besides, AGS is generally considered to be more consistent and accurate in their grading than EGL (at least better than their non-US labs).

Anyway, good luck in your search!

-Tim
 

Gene

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spot on! definitely something i would say =)


>AGS certs also list crown/pavilion angles and percentages

You know.. while you were just having a hard time reading
what the angles were (on bluenile). On my monitor it was
so low-res i at first didn't see them at all! =) Thanks,
I didn't even realize AGS also has the specs, because they
were so small.
 

aljdewey

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On 1/17/2003 11:14:22 AM Gene wrote:
Whiteflash (or
their other fronts, like www.diamond-rings.cc or the
www.wholesale-diamonds.net), and bluenile, goodoldgold, etc,
all don't list the crown or pav angles, unless you get lucky
and it has a link to the EGL report, to view online. Makes
searching kinda hard -- I can see why people would take the
safe way out and get Hearts & Arrows cut, or "Ideal" cut...----------------
Gene, I don't know where you're looking, but based on your comment, I think you're looking perhaps a little too hastily.

EVERY diamond listed on www.goodoldgold.com gives crown/pav angles under the "external cut analysis" section. No luck there....you just have to look at it.

EVERY diamond on www.niceice.com also gives crow/pav angles....look at the "computerized proportion analysis" section. In fact, in searching this website, it brings up a table that will let you identify first which diamonds have the fluor you're looking for.

In fact most vendors will provide a link to display a diamond's cert....and every diamond certed by EGL and AGS provides crown/pav info IF you know where to look. I'd suggest you familiarize yourself with how to read these reports; you'll find the data you're looking for.

Granted...you won't be able to just click one button and have results in a central place. It's going to take a little bit of research on your part, just like any other purchase that has a number of specifications.

It shouldn't be, though, a 4-day ordeal to find the information. I found that diamond in my earlier post in less than 10 minutes this morning, and it EXACTLY meets what you said you wanted. You just have to be willing to look.

Good luck.
 
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