Can someone answer some questions on how the perceived colour of the diamond can be influenced.

[wenwen1111]

Hi Guys,

I''m trying to maximise my spending power and am wondering the following concerning a diamond''s colour. I''m considering a stone of size ~ 0.5 ct

1) Does a smaller stone eg 0.5ct make the diamond look whiter as opposed to a big one eg 1 ct+ of the same colour grade? (our ability to perceive colour with respect to size)

2) Does a platinum or white gold setting make the diamond look white than when it is a loose stone?


This is something extra: with a stone of size 0.5 ct colour H and clarity Si1, is it more worthwhile upgrading the colour to G or upgrading the size? I heard that you can start to see the yellow in H already O.O

Thanks in advance!!


Wendy

 

[strmrdr]

The diamond I bought for wifey2b is a superbly cut .42 j and doesn't show noticeable body color face up.
If it was me and unless your very color sensitive I would go I/J si1/Si2 and up in size.
You will notice the larger size more than the color difference.
Just make sure its very well cut and eye clean.
An I/J would be fine in a white gold or plat ring.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-2176255.htm

 

[Indira-London]

Date: 9/14/2009 4:14:31 AM
Author: strmrdr
The diamond I bought for wifey2b is a superbly cut .42 j and doesn''t show noticeable body color face up.
If it was me and unless your very color sensitive I would go I/J si1/Si2 and up in size.
You will notice the larger size more than the color difference.
Just make sure its very well cut and eye clean.
An I/J would be fine in a white gold or plat ring.

http://www.whiteflash.com/hearts_arrows/Whiteflash-ACA-cut-diamond-2176255.htm

Agree with Storm. To most people, when a diamond is well-cut then the to colours e.g. D-I or even J look white when set in jewellery in a white metal.
Quality of the cut is the key factor that makes the diamond sparkle as well as look larger, whiter and cleaner than a less-well cut diamond with the same carat/colour/clarity.

Here for example is a picture of a Crafted By Infinity (AGS0 ideal cut and Hearts &Arrows) J colour diamond set in a ring where the surround little diamonds are G colour though of course photos are not the best way to judge if you have a chance to look at some diamonds in reality in different light conditions.

 

[Garry H (Cut Nut)]

the lower the color the better the color appears when set in YG
White metals show the color contrast

 

[wenwen1111]

that was actually the exact style i was after but it was a Hof setting

 

[vespergirl]

In a .5 ct stone you do not need to go up to a G. You won''t see any body color in an H.

 

[kenny]

Yes, better cut obscures the body color of a diamond when viewed face up, but that wasn''t the question.

Smaller diamonds DO show less color than larger ones of the same color grade.

IOW if you lined up several G diamonds upside down against a white background and looked at them from the side (this shows the color best) the larger Gs would show more color than the smaller Gs.

 

[Rockdiamond]

HI All!

I agree with Storm and Dr Marchant that many observers will not notice, or be bothered by the tint in a well cut J color. Also- I have found that larger stones do not necessarily show more color- it depends on the cut, and other factors more.

Wendy, I have had different experiences from some of the others posting with regard to the color of the metal.
I'd suggest using white metal on the prongs if you decide to go into the H-I-J colors.
We've found that the color of the metal the diamond is set into does influence the perceived color- however, the opposite of Garry's experience.
Setting a J-K- or L colored stone into white metal improves the face up in our experience. Setting it into yellow increases the perceived body color, in our experience.

 

[Black Jade]

I don''t think most people see color in an H. If it''s right next to someone''s D, the yes. But on its own an H is defintely what most people would call a ''white diamond'' and if well cut will look that much better.
I''m of the school of thinking that the contrast with YG makes stones J and below look whiter.
I read somewhere that the average engagement ring in the US has a K colored diamond in it that was sold to the owner as a "G". I don''t know if that''s true, but I do know that the things I got with PS advice look way better tha 99 % of the rings I see around me. I see bigger rings than my .65 S SI1 (though (I also see a lot smaller) all the time, but only a couple of times have I seen anything that looks anywhere near as nice.

 

[LGK]

My experience with color perception as it relates to the color of metal is like David's. I find that yellow gold (most especially yellow gold prongs) add color to a diamond. It is very, very difficult for me to judge color in yellow gold pieces- they all look slightly yellowish to me. (There's nothing I hate more than when a customer asks me to guess what color some diamond set in yellow gold is.)

That being said, yeah, in low color stones (for me starting at K/L ish) white metal provides some contrast to the stone. But at least it doesn't add color. Unrhodium plated white gold is one of my favorite looks for lower color stones- it's a bit off white, so it doesn't contrast, but it isn't yellow enough to add co

That being said, a half carat H should appear very, very white to most everyone. Unless you're very color sensitive, you could probably go lower in color to get a larger stone.

 

[outatouch0]

These are pictures of the H color stone I just proposed with - It looks completely WHITE in the pictures and in person.
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/hanhs-e-ring.125095/

It is an AGS ideal cut which sparkles like crazy (HCA 0.. Definitly go for Cut Quality as top priority, eye clean second, then get the best color and size your budget allows.

 

[Cehrabehra]

Yes I believe you can see more color in larger stones and unset stones. J is the new F though lol