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CAD of Split Shank with Rose Gold Halo - FEEDBACK PLEASE!

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FieryBrilliance

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Hi All,

After months of thought and preparation, I'm finally at the CAD rendering stage. Chris from ERD sent me the below CADs for a setting that will house a 1.57H VS1 Antique Cushion. My girlfriend has indicated that she loves the antique look, would like a rose gold halo (although I'm undecided on 18k or 14k... she does want it to have a definitively rose hue), and split shank. I sent Chris tons of samples for inspiration and even went so far as to draw my own and I am pretty happy with the result. A few things going through my mind and I was wondering if you all might be able to provide me some thoughts. But first, the pictures!

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1) 14K vs. 18K rose gold. She wants it to be pink, but I don't like the idea of lowering the gold content. Does that cheapen it?

2) I was thinking of elevating the halo a bit and adding a row of pave along the outside perimeter of the halo so that it has pave from the top and sides similar to the halo setting on AshokaLuv's beautiful setting: http://www.pricescope.com/blog/jewel-week-ashoka-diamond-ring. Do you think that would look good?

3) I would like to do something a little more antique-looking with the basket and also add some texture on the sides of the band that currently have none just to complete the overall antique look she loves. Any recommendations for inspiration or general suggestions?

Would love to know your thoughts before I go back to Chris w/ my feedback. I'm so excited I've got goosebumps :D
 
Re: CAD of Split Shank with Rose Gold Halo - FEEDBACK PLEASE

Engraving on the sides would be lovely! It looks about perfect to me!!!
 
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Engraving on the sides is definitely needed to complete the antique look, and would probably get away with no more pave around the sides. Some engraving on the side of the rose gold halo might even look better.

14k gold will be cheaper than 18k gold, but I don't think anyone in their right mind considers 14k to be "cheap".
 
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FieryBrilliance|1375131751|3492655 said:
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1) 14K vs. 18K rose gold. She wants it to be pink, but I don't like the idea of lowering the gold content. Does that cheapen it?

2) I was thinking of elevating the halo a bit and adding a row of pave along the outside perimeter of the halo so that it has pave from the top and sides similar to the halo setting on AshokaLuv's beautiful setting: http://www.pricescope.com/blog/jewel-week-ashoka-diamond-ring......... Do you think that would look good?

3) I would like to do something a little more antique-looking with the basket and also add some texture on the sides of the band that currently have none just to complete the overall antique look she loves. Any recommendations for inspiration or general suggestions?
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Hi, FieryBrilliance! :appl:

First of all, I love that you want to give your FF exactly what she wants! :naughty: I think the CAD looks good. Now onto your questions...

1) Some rose golds are different colors (Cartier vs Tiffany, for example). Some are just barely pink, some have brown undertones, etc... Are you close enough to be able to go and view their rose gold in person? If not, I would have the them send you several photos of 14K and 18K (or a small sample would be even better) to see which you like better. The 18K is usually preferred when working with a lot of pave. My ring is not rose gold, but 18K white gold. I wish I would have done 14K for the simple fact that it doesn't have to be rhodium plated nearly as often as 14K. Both of my 14K bands still look BRAND NEW, but my 18K needs to be plated (I've had it for a little over a year). Don't know if this would affect rose gold or not.

2) I love the idea of adding the row of pave along the perimeter. Mine is that way, so I'm a little biased. :bigsmile:

3) I agree that the basket needs some tweaking, but you're right on top of that one! Maybe some curved struts or petal design?? Engraving would definitely give it a more vintage feel.

There were a few other things that I thought of...

A) Instead of having the split shank come together to make a "double band", I would have them marry it together for a thinner, more delicate "one band" look. :))

B) I would have them change the split shank such that it would not split so wide, raise the halo a bit, and have them meet "under the halo. This would make the halo and center stand out more and look larger. It would also make it look more delicate.

These are all just my personal opinions, but I'm sure it will be gorgeous regardless! :halo:
 
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FB- Here are my .02 cents.

- As far as 14k vs. 18k RG I would go with whatever is pinker. This is typically 14k and I dont' think it cheapens it all. No one will ever care if it was 18k vs 14k RG but the look will be different. Pink vs. a more bronze/ peachy color.

-I would not do engraving on the ring. It already has a lot going on with being 2 tone, a halo, double split shank etc. To add another element to the mix makes it go from classic to overkill for me very quickly.

-I do like the idea of the split shank leading into 1 band vs. 2. I think this will really add elegance plus draw more attention to the center stone. Also if she pairs it with a wedding band I prefer the total width to be lower for comfort.

-I would add diamonds to the struts and bridge for overall total appeal. I think it will give it that extra wow factor you want without it being overkill.

Overall I would say you are making a beautiful ring and if I was your GF I would be THRILLED! :appl:
 
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SB621|1375136021|3492698 said:
FB- Here are my .02 cents.

- As far as 14k vs. 18k RG I would go with whatever is pinker. This is typically 14k and I dont' think it cheapens it all. No one will ever care if it was 18k vs 14k RG but the look will be different. Pink vs. a more bronze/ peachy color.

-I would not do engraving on the ring. It already has a lot going on with being 2 tone, a halo, double split shank etc. To add another element to the mix makes it go from classic to overkill for me very quickly. Totally agree, sometimes too much... is just that... TOO MUCH. Right now- its perfect!

-I do like the idea of the split shank leading into 1 band vs. 2. I think this will really add elegance plus draw more attention to the center stone. Also if she pairs it with a wedding band I prefer the total width to be lower for comfort. Excellent point!

-I would add diamonds to the struts and bridge for overall total appeal. I think it will give it that extra wow factor you want without it being overkill. I would just add to the bridge only - the struts are pretty thin as is - but the bridge adds a subtle hint of sparkle vs a WOW if they are on struts too, kwim?

Overall I would say you are making a beautiful ring and if I was your GF I would be THRILLED! :appl:
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I'm just tagging on to SB w her EXCELLENT advice! This is going to be an AMAZING e-ring!! Lucky lady - boy... if she says no, know that there are many here on PS who could become available! :wink2: :D
 
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First off, you're going to love Chris!
Second, the ring is gorgeous, although I agree that the basket needs a bit of work. I'm not sure exactly how to describe it, but the center stone almost seems to get lost in that setting.
 
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That gorgeous stone is getting lost in there.

Also here are some pics for shank modification suggestions.
iphone_1.jpg This one is gorgeous. You can add pave to that shank. But the way the two shanks meld into one is beautiful. By ERD.

http://www.precisionset.com/catalog/large/2993_C1.jpg Two shanks but they are much better angled and done than the one in your CAD.

steven-kirsch-pave-diamond-split-shank-halo-ring-top-3.jpg


I'm also not loving the style of pave. But that's a personal choice. If you like that style... then, that style it is.
 
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Gypsy|1375141592|3492747 said:
Can I ask why you aren't just doing the Kelly but with a rose gold halo around the center stone and plain struts? ? http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/kelly-micro-pave-split-shank-diamond-halo-engagement-ring-bpid-135-15.html
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Gypsy! What a perfect alternative!! :appl: I could see that halo in the RG and it would be a perfect alternative!! Good call - you are SOOO good at this sort of thing!
 
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I agree with other's thoughts on having the split shank meld into 1 band vs the 2. Right now the ring is a bit chunky, and that would make it more delicate and retain the vintage feel.
 
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I think the Kelly is more of a HW inspired halo vs the CAD which reminds me of a Tiffany legacy with miligraining etc. I actually like the CAD if the changes mentioned were included over the Kelly version.
 
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msop04|1375134603|3492681 said:
FieryBrilliance|1375131751|3492655 said:
ld3_1.jpgld6.jpgld4.jpgld5.jpg

1) 14K vs. 18K rose gold. She wants it to be pink, but I don't like the idea of lowering the gold content. Does that cheapen it?

2) I was thinking of elevating the halo a bit and adding a row of pave along the outside perimeter of the halo so that it has pave from the top and sides similar to the halo setting on AshokaLuv's beautiful setting: http://www.pricescope.com/blog/jewel-week-ashoka-diamond-ring.......... Do you think that would look good?

3) I would like to do something a little more antique-looking with the basket and also add some texture on the sides of the band that currently have none just to complete the overall antique look she loves. Any recommendations for inspiration or general suggestions?
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Hi, FieryBrilliance! :appl:

First of all, I love that you want to give your FF exactly what she wants! :naughty: I think the CAD looks good. Now onto your questions...

1) Some rose golds are different colors (Cartier vs Tiffany, for example). Some are just barely pink, some have brown undertones, etc... Are you close enough to be able to go and view their rose gold in person? If not, I would have the them send you several photos of 14K and 18K (or a small sample would be even better) to see which you like better. The 18K is usually preferred when working with a lot of pave. My ring is not rose gold, but 18K white gold. I wish I would have done 14K for the simple fact that it doesn't have to be rhodium plated nearly as often as 14K. Both of my 14K bands still look BRAND NEW, but my 18K needs to be plated (I've had it for a little over a year). Don't know if this would affect rose gold or not.

2) I love the idea of adding the row of pave along the perimeter. Mine is that way, so I'm a little biased. :bigsmile:

Do you mean along the halo or perimeter of the band? And do you have a picture of your setting so I can see what you're biased about? :)

3) I agree that the basket needs some tweaking, but you're right on top of that one! Maybe some curved struts or petal design?? Engraving would definitely give it a more vintage feel.

Yeah i'll talk to chris about that.

There were a few other things that I thought of...

A) Instead of having the split shank come together to make a "double band", I would have them marry it together for a thinner, more delicate "one band" look. :))

That seems to be popular consensus amongst PS and I see what you're saying. The challenge is that my gf actually LIKES the wider split of the shank, so I wonder if the CAD crew figured they couldn't split it wide enough w/o a double band.

B) I would have them change the split shank such that it would not split so wide, raise the halo a bit, and have them meet "under the halo. This would make the halo and center stand out more and look larger. It would also make it look more delicate.

I do like this suggestion a lot, though I know my gf wants a noticeable split in the shank vs. one that sneaks up at the very top of the band. Raising the halo some and having the shanks meet beneath it is appealing to me - any specific settings you have in mind as an example/inspiration?

These are all just my personal opinions, but I'm sure it will be gorgeous regardless! :halo:
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Thanks so much for your opinions - very much appreciate it!
 
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Gypsy|1375141592|3492747 said:
Can I ask why you aren't just doing the Kelly but with a rose gold halo around the center stone and plain struts? ? http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/kelly-micro-pave-split-shank-diamond-halo-engagement-ring-bpid-135-15.html
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Hi Gypsy,
Thanks for your input, I do appreciate it! The Kelly is a beautiful setting but when I showed my gf the various settings ERD had on their site, the one she liked the most was the Barbara http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/barbara-micro-pave-engagement-ring-bpid-99-15.html.. I'd like to see if there's a way to modify the halo to share similarities to the Annette http://www.engagementringsdirect.com/annette-contemporary-micro-pave-halo-engagement-ring-bpid-93-15.html but with an obvious split b/w the shanks.

I am concerned, as were you, that there's too much metal here and that the beauty of the stone is going to be hidden by everything else that's going on, but I've shown her several Harry Winston inspired settings that have less metal / no miligrain and she just doesn't like those as much.
 
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As for the color of rose gold if she wants pink go 14k

I'm so mad at myself there's a really beautiful cushion halo erd made about a year ago that was village stage with engraved sides very similar to yours and it turned out really well not overdone. I'm having quite a time finding it!!

But in the mean time, ignore me if this is what you're going for, but the shank doesn't loom split from the top, just looks like 2 bands... I find a more subtle one to be a bit more feminine. Like this erd ring they made.

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/custom-legacy-cartier-design-from-erd-amazing.169018/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/custom-legacy-cartier-design-from-erd-amazing.169018/[/URL]
 
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Niel|1375153776|3492888 said:
Ugh OK finally!
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/erd-ring-review-reveal-neil-lane-inspiration.179523/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/erd-ring-review-reveal-neil-lane-inspiration.179523/[/URL]

I think the engraving is beautiful and not over the top.
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Thanks Niel! Appreciate your reply and that you searched so hard for the setting you were thinking of. Both that you sent me are truly beautiful. I'm in a bit of a predicament because I am starting to think I'm about to marry one of the only women on earth who isn't into more feminine/dainty rings. I've literally shown her countless other settings and she keeps coming back to:

Loving miligrain
Loving a fairly substantial split shank

She loves the look of David Yurman rings and other relatively "busy" rings with lots of character.

Ultimately, I know she'll love whatever I give her, but I want it to be as close to her definition of perfect as possible, even if it means i'm going against some of the experts here :(
 
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Gypsy|1375141403|3492745 said:
That gorgeous stone is getting lost in there.

Also here are some pics for shank modification suggestions.
iphone_1.jpg This one is gorgeous. You can add pave to that shank. But the way the two shanks meld into one is beautiful. By ERD.

http://www.precisionset.com/catalog/large/2993_C1.jpg Two shanks but they are much better angled and done than the one in your CAD.

steven-kirsch-pave-diamond-split-shank-halo-ring-top-3.jpg


I'm also not loving the style of pave. But that's a personal choice. If you like that style... then, that style it is.
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Thanks Gypsy. What do you mean by "not loving that style of pave"? What other types of pave are there / do you prefer? I thought pave was just using small stones set in the band - didn't realize there were various styles. Could you elaborate for me?

Thanks!
 
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FieryBrilliance|1375155380|3492900 said:
Niel|1375153776|3492888 said:
Ugh OK finally!
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/erd-ring-review-reveal-neil-lane-inspiration.179523/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/erd-ring-review-reveal-neil-lane-inspiration.179523/[/URL]

I think the engraving is beautiful and not over the top.
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Thanks Niel! Appreciate your reply and that you searched so hard for the setting you were thinking of. Both that you sent me are truly beautiful. I'm in a bit of a predicament because I am starting to think I'm about to marry one of the only women on earth who isn't into more feminine/dainty rings. I've literally shown her countless other settings and she keeps coming back to:

Loving miligrain
Loving a fairly substantial split shank

She loves the look of David Yurman rings and other relatively "busy" rings with lots of character.

Ultimately, I know she'll love whatever I give her, but I want it to be as close to her definition of perfect as possible, even if it means i'm going against some of the experts here :(
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There is really no "right" or "wrong" answer here. You should definitely get your girlfriend what she likes... not what other people like. :)) If you've shown her the other suggestions and she keeps going back to the original, then there ya go. However, I would lift the halo, add the pave like you mentioned. The DY rings (I'm thinking she's referring to the Albion style) have the split shank meeting the basket under the halo portion. I know one is the larger version, but it showed the lifted halo a little better. Is this the look you are talking about?
dy2.jpgdy1.jpg
 
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curious about where you landed here, FieryBrilliance! Update us? :wavey:
 
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Yup. If your lady wants that style and she's picked it, then ignore me. :-) She knows what she wants and you should definitely get her that.

The style is bright cut with milgrain, which is just a subjective thing. It's a very safe type of pave and wears well.
 
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Hi there - sorry I have been MIA. I started another thread when I popped the question (rookie mistake?)

[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/she-said-yes-pics-of-erd-rose-gold-halo-split-shank.193410/#post-3521388#p3521388']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/she-said-yes-pics-of-erd-rose-gold-halo-split-shank.193410/#post-3521388#p3521388[/URL]

Anyhow, she said yes! Thanks so much for all of your help and guidance!!!!
 
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Not a mistake, but thanks for the cross post of the link, we love seeing the finish products.

Congratulations on your engagement! And happy birthday. The ring looks great on her hands.
 
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it's SO beautiful on her! And ironic that I just discovered this thread not a day before finding me also mixed-metal halo split shank ring! almost makes me wonder if it imprinted on me or something! :eek:
 
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1) 14K vs. 18K rose gold. She wants it to be pink, but I don't like the idea of lowering the gold content. Does that cheapen it?
I think they need to show you their 14k and 18k side by side and let you pick the pinker one. It does not cheapen it at all
to use 14k to get the look you want.
2) I was thinking of elevating the halo a bit and adding a row of pave along the outside perimeter of the halo so that it has pave from the top and sides similar to the halo setting on AshokaLuv's beautiful setting: https://www.pricescope.com/blog/jewel-week-ashoka-diamond-ring.. Do you think that would look good?
I would not do this. It looks really nice the way it is.
3) I would like to do something a little more antique-looking with the basket and also add some texture on the sides of the band that currently have none just to complete the overall antique look she loves. Any recommendations for inspiration or general suggestions?
The basket definitely needs some beautification! I'll see if I can find some examples to post. Engraving on the side would be
lovely and give you more of an antique feel. This is going to be a lovely setting!
Would love to know your thoughts before I go back to Chris w/ my feedback. I'm so excited I've got goosebumps :D
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Never mind, I dont know how I ended up posting to an old post!
 
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