BEFORE My Diamond Ships!

[mns12]

Me Again

Let me preface by saying, YES...I know I am over thinking at this point in time!
I purchased a Whiteflash 1.968 H VS2 ACA (due to ship next week). I am beyond thrilled with my choice but the waiting game is so hard and I can't keep myself from peeking at the WF diamonds every day For some reason I keep going back to this 2.076 I VS2 ACA, maybe because it is "officially" a 2 ct. stone? Or maybe b/c I always have to second guess myself, who knows

In any event the CA/PA #s are a little different, inclusions different locations, and of course H vs. I
I was told they both face up in color/brightness pretty much the same and the 2.0076 has about .2mm size advantage.

To appease me, please let me know if you have a preference for one stone over the other?
Do I want to gain a little in size but go lower to I?
Is the difference in the CA/PA #s something that will make a difference?
Are the type and location of the inclusions more favorable in one?

I appreciate you bearing with me and any thoughts you may have. The PS community ROCKS!!

http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3317422.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-3302904.htm

 

[telephone89]

If I had a 1.968, I'd just call it a 2. So it may not officially be a 2, but (to me), it's close enough.

It seems like YOU really want it though. I'd probably reconsider and get the larger. If it's still bothering you, then go for it!

Personally, for me, I would give up colour to get the bigger size. So long as the pricing is pretty similar.

 

[mns12]

If I had a 1.968, I'd just call it a 2. So it may not officially be a 2, but (to me), it's close enough.

It seems like YOU really want it though. I'd probably reconsider and get the larger. If it's still bothering you, then go for it!

Personally, for me, I would give up colour to get the bigger size. So long as the pricing is pretty similar.

Thanks!

Pricing difference is minimal. I guess I just want to make sure "all things considered" I'm buying the "better" diamond. Although not sure "better" applies in this situation. Again, just me always second guessing....

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Both stones are outstanding. So thinking that one is "better" than the other needs to be ruled out. ACA's are cut with strict parameters and are up there with the best cut round brilliants in the world.

This is totally a color versus size issue that we all have to deal with. I thought you had the buy of the year with that H stone! It is SO rare to find a superideal cut stone just under a major carat mark. I will tell you that my diamond ring is I color, but my ACA studs from Whiteflash are H color. I am in the process of upgrading my studs and I actually deliberated the same exact thing between H and I. I just prefer H color when I have that choice.

However, there are other people who would much rather have that extra size and who wouldn't care about the color. If I could magically change my ring diamond to H and lose .2 cts, I would do it. But again, there are many people who'd choose the larger stone every time.

Only you can answer whether color or size is your most desired spec!

 

[mns12]

Both stones are outstanding. So thinking that one is "better" than the other needs to be ruled out. ACA's are cut with strict parameters and are up there with the best cut round brilliants in the world.

This is totally a color versus size issue that we all have to deal with. I thought you had the buy of the year with that H stone! It is SO rare to find a superideal cut stone just under a major carat mark. I will tell you that my diamond ring is I color, but my ACA studs from Whiteflash are H color. I am in the process of upgrading my studs and I actually deliberated the same exact thing between H and I. I just prefer H color when I have that choice.

However, there are other people who would much rather have that extra size and who wouldn't care about the color. If I could magically change my ring diamond to H and lose .2 cts, I would do it. But again, there are many people who'd choose the larger stone every time.

Only you can answer whether color or size is your most desired spec!

Thanks DS!

I think if I could see them in person I would have an easier time choosing for sure (but that isn't a possibility).
And the type/placement of the inclusions is a non-deciding factor in your eyes?

 

[Mayk]

I would go with the two.. it's mind clean.. "over the 2 ct. mark" and no more second guessing.

You can officially call me "enabler". But I have a 2.02 I so I could be slightly biased.

 

[diamondseeker2006]

With VS2 there usually won't be clarity factors that would make that the deciding factor, but I am picky about clarity and see nothing at all wrong with asking them that question.

Mayk did recently buy a 2 ct I color superideal cut and m2b just bought a 4+ ct I color ACA. So there are many people here who chose and are happy with the color. I am happy with mine except when it takes on environmental color.

I'll tell you honestly, I had three pairs of studs to choose from. Three different sizes and the two largest pairs were I color and the smallest (by a tiny amount) was H. I could not make a decision because I could not visualize the size difference or the color. I asked my wonderful sales associate, Sheerah, if she would mind just taking a picture for me of the three pairs next to each other. She graciously did that for me and it absolutely helped me make the decision. I didn't want a pro picture. I just needed an iPhone shot of the three pairs as they appear in normal conditions. I am going to post two of the pictures she sent me so you can see. I am not going to tell you the colors. You tell me if you can pick out the H pair. (There is some other environmental color, maybe the phone case, reflecting in the middle stones so ignore that aspect.)

 

[mns12]

With VS2 there usually won't be clarity factors that would make that the deciding factor, but I am picky about clarity and see nothing at all wrong with asking them that question.

Mayk did recently buy a 2 ct I color superideal cut and m2b just bought a 4+ ct I color ACA. So there are many people here who chose and are happy with the color. I am happy with mine except when it takes on environmental color.

I'll tell you honestly, I had three pairs of studs to choose from. Three different sizes and the two largest pairs were I color and the smallest (by a tiny amount) was H. I could not make a decision because I could not visualize the size difference or the color. I asked my wonderful sales associate, Sheerah, if she would mind just taking a picture for me of the three pairs next to each other. She graciously did that for me and it absolutely helped me make the decision. I didn't want a pro picture. I just needed an iPhone shot of the three pairs as they appear in normal conditions. I am going to post two of the pictures she sent me so you can see. I am not going to tell you the colors. You tell me if you can pick out the H pair. (There is some other environmental color, maybe the phone case, reflecting in the middle stones so ignore that aspect.)

Geez, just looking from my iPhone but in first pics my first inclination is the last pair but second pic 1st pair?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

The stones are in the same order in both pics, and the H pair is the last pair on the right. They ranged from about 1.15-1.29 cts, but honestly you can hardly even tell the size apart. So I went with the H pair because they were about the same measurements as the middle pair, and they told me that one of the I pair on the left was more tinted than its match, so they recommended the middle and right pairs. The H pair was just a few hundred more, so I just picked them so I'd have no regrets. When the difference is in the thousands, it is a different matter! You might want to look at the pic on a computer, but obviously if they would do this with your two stones, it would help you a lot more. Just tell them you want iPhone pics of the stones side by side on a white background at a couple of different distances. There was no way I could decide without seeing them together. I had no size reference at all. I thought I might want the 1.29 pair, but it turned out that there was little difference in the size of the three pairs.

 

[heididdl]

stay with the H.......1.96 is 2 carats.....

 

[mns12]

The stones are in the same order in both pics, and the H pair is the last pair on the right. They ranged from about 1.15-1.29 cts, but honestly you can hardly even tell the size apart. So I went with the H pair because they were about the same measurements as the middle pair, and they told me that one of the I pair on the left was more tinted than its match, so they recommended the middle and right pairs. The H pair was just a few hundred more, so I just picked them so I'd have no regrets. When the difference is in the thousands, it is a different matter! You might want to look at the pic on a computer, but obviously if they would do this with your two stones, it would help you a lot more. Just tell them you want iPhone pics of the stones side by side on a white background at a couple of different distances. There was no way I could decide without seeing them together. I had no size reference at all. I thought I might want the 1.29 pair, but it turned out that there was little difference in the size of the three pairs.

They are going to be gorgeous studs!
I actually did ask Liza for real life perspective pics this AM and she just provided!
Once I get kiddies to bed I will upload and post.

 

[Sundial]

Go with the I. Most people can't tell the difference between H and I especially face up as the ring will most often be viewed. I chose an I color for my recent upgrade and my previous stone was an F and I have no regrets. There is something about that over 2 carat size that is mentally satisfying and more likely to keep diamond shrinkage syndrome away.

 

[baroque]

Do you want my honest opinion I was going to buy that I. It was reserved for me when I went to see them. It's gorgeous If I hadn't decided to go bigger, it would be mine! I "wore" it around the showroom in one of those temp squeezy settings...and it owned the place! I really did notice the difference in the size between the H and the I. That being said, the H was very slightly whiter setting next to each other...but if you put them both down and took one away, I wouldn't have known which one based on color...that's MHO. You can't go wrong with either though...

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Do you want my honest opinion I was going to buy that I. It was reserved for me when I went to see them. It's gorgeous If I hadn't decided to go bigger, it would be mine! I "wore" it around the showroom in one of those temp squeezy settings...and it owned the place! I really did notice the difference in the size between the H and the I. That being said, the H was very slightly whiter setting next to each other...but if you put them both down and took one away, I wouldn't have known which one based on color...that's MHO. You can't go wrong with either though...

Well, how perfect is that?! Someone who has seen both!!!

 

[baroque]

Did they send you a pic of the I and the H next to each other? I might have that...

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Did they send you a pic of the I and the H next to each other? I might have that...

I won't derail her thread, but I had to go find the diamond you chose, and I totally missed your threads about the stone and setting! Gorgeous BIG stone and have you decided on a setting? You may know that I have the Vatche U-113. We'll go to your thread if you haven't decided.

 

[baroque]

Did they send you a pic of the I and the H next to each other? I might have that...

I won't derail her thread, but I had to go find the diamond you chose, and I totally missed your threads about the stone and setting! Gorgeous BIG stone and have you decided on a setting? You may know that I have the Vatche U-113. We'll go to your thread if you haven't decided.

Hi there, Thank you! I'm super excited! Yes, I'm getting the WF knife edge solitaire, but with the edge softened like M-2-B...and set medium height. 18K YG with Platinum head.

MNS12, what setting are you getting?

 

[diamondseeker2006]

Did they send you a pic of the I and the H next to each other? I might have that...

I won't derail her thread, but I had to go find the diamond you chose, and I totally missed your threads about the stone and setting! Gorgeous BIG stone and have you decided on a setting? You may know that I have the Vatche U-113. We'll go to your thread if you haven't decided.

Hi there, Thank you! I'm super excited! Yes, I'm getting the WF knife edge solitaire, but with the edge softened like M-2-B...and set medium height. 18K YG with Platinum head.

MNS12, what setting are you getting?

That is exactly what I was going to suggest! They did a great job on m2b's and I would not pay for the Vatche unless it was likely a forever ring (whatever that is..I wouldn't know!!!). I love the 6 prongs even though I do also love the Legato and often recommend it for smaller stones. But your wedding band is very Tiffany style, so I think the knife edge is an absolutely perfect choice! I love the yg with platinum head, too! My orginal e-ring for almost 30 years was yg with 4 prong wg head.

Okay, back to MNS!

 

[mns12]

Do you want my honest opinion I was going to buy that I. It was reserved for me when I went to see them. It's gorgeous If I hadn't decided to go bigger, it would be mine! I "wore" it around the showroom in one of those temp squeezy settings...and it owned the place! I really did notice the difference in the size between the H and the I. That being said, the H was very slightly whiter setting next to each other...but if you put them both down and took one away, I wouldn't have known which one based on color...that's MHO. You can't go wrong with either though...

Well, how perfect is that?! Someone who has seen both!!!

Seriously! Totally forgot Baroque went to WF I should of asked her in the first place Thanks so much for your input!! I almost didn't post this thread, so glad I did.

Baroque, so out of all the diamonds you looked at right around the 2 ct mark this 2.076 was your favorite?
I was told that from face up it is totally eye clean but from one side view if you look closely enough it is not completely eye clean from one angle, did you take a look at this? I don't think that would bother me considering my previous stone was a S12 and I'm pretty sure wasn't eye clean.

For the setting. If I go with WF I am leaning towards a combination of the Exquisite Half Round and Elegant Solitaire. I love the BGD tapered Tiffany half round so going for something close to that look. I still love Valmanin's ERD solitaire but not sure if that is more suited for an old cut?

http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/exquisite-half-round-solitaire-engagement-ring-3585.htm
http://www.whiteflash.com/engagement-rings/solitaire/elegant-tiffany-style-solitaire-engagement-ring-3581.htm
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-3-55-oec-in-erd-rg-wg-solitaire.199003/']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-3-55-oec-in-erd-rg-wg-solitaire.199003/[/URL]

Thanks again for the very useful info!

 

[baroque]

Yes, I totally would have bought that one. I couldn't see anything in the stone, it was totally eye clean to me. Only when we put it under the microscope could I see anything. It was the best I that I saw. Have you had the BG tapered 1/2 round?

 

[mns12]

Comparison picture. Baroque if you have any more I would love to see!

 

[mns12]

Yes, I totally would have bought that one. I couldn't see anything in the stone, it was totally eye clean to me. Only when we put it under the microscope could I see anything. It was the best I that I saw. Have you had the BG tapered 1/2 round?

Great, thanks again!!

No, I have not had that setting but from all the pics I have seen online I love it. But like I said in another post, I was able to go to Tiffany's this past weekend and tried on their classic, best selling knife edge and it was really, really pretty. You won't go wrong with that big, blingy rock

 

[diamondseeker2006]

I like the Exquisite Half Round a lot more than the other. I think the head looks better on this one.

I also think any stone could be set in Valmanin's setting. People put modern cuts in antique style settings everyday, but that setting is more neutral to me.

I can't tell anything about color from that pic. They look the same in that lighting!

 

[mns12]

I like the Exquisite Half Round a lot more than the other. I think the head looks better on this one.

I also think any stone could be set in Valmanin's setting. People put modern cuts in antique style settings everyday, but that setting is more neutral to me.

I can't tell anything about color from that pic. They look the same in that lighting!

Totally agree. When I said I wanted tapered WF mentioned the Elegant style but I wasn't crazy about the higher shoulders and head. Although I feel like some of their pics aren't true representations. So I'm thinking Exquisite but tapered towards diamond.

My hesitation with ERD is shipping back & forth and then a longer wait

Meant to ask...what is considered medium height? 7-8mm from finger to table?

 

[baroque]

The heads are all the same on all three of the WF plain solitaires, I asked, so you can make modifications if you have something in mind. I actually had the BG tapered 1/2 round for about 5 days, with the J colored stone I was considering. It was to be a temporary "try it" to see if I was OK with the color of the J stone...and I wasn't...I can't really say what I didn't like about the setting, it was really delicate, almost too tiny for me? I don't think I liked the way it tapered in so thin toward the head maybe? With the WF options, I was torn between the exquisite and the knife edge and the M2B photos and her modifications put me over the edge.

I have a photo with the two stones lying face down next to each other so you can see the color, and also a J, it's on my desktop at work, I'll send it tomorrow...you will see that the colors are VERY close!

 

[mns12]

The heads are all the same on all three of the WF plain solitaires, I asked, so you can make modifications if you have something in mind. I actually had the BG tapered 1/2 round for about 5 days, with the J colored stone I was considering. It was to be a temporary "try it" to see if I was OK with the color of the J stone...and I wasn't...I can't really say what I didn't like about the setting, it was really delicate, almost too tiny for me? I don't think I liked the way it tapered in so thin toward the head maybe? With the WF options, I was torn between the exquisite and the knife edge and the M2B photos and her modifications put me over the edge.

I have a photo with the two stones lying face down next to each other so you can see the color, and also a J, it's on my desktop at work, I'll send it tomorrow...you will see that the colors are VERY close!

My previous setting was a delicate halo and the shank was around 1.9mm which I really liked, so I guess I like the dainty look for me.

Thanks again

 

[baroque]

Here is the photo of the two next to each other face down. I really didn't see much difference to my eye in person at all. If you had them both there, and took one away when I blinked, based on color I wouldn't have known which one. There was a J stone in this pic too, but I cropped it out, since it was not relevant. Keep in mind, this is on a very white background. I didn't see tint really in either of them. Hope this helps!

 

[junebug17]

I'm a bit late to this thread, not sure if you've decided one way or the other, but I would go for the I. I honestly don't think I'd be able to detect the color difference and I like the larger size.

 

[hearts-arrows_girl]

Both look amazing! I like the 2.07 better. Smaller table and slightly more size! When DSS starts, you will wish you had the bigger one, if the smaller one is making you wonder, already.

 

[newsparkle15]

Hi, I am color sensitive so to me H is whiter. The size between these two is hard to tell at least for me.