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musicman948

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Hey wassup guys! Long time no see.......lol.

Anyways, since I have decided to go custom (great decision, btw, thanks for showing me that), I am debating cuts right now. I saw the Asscher cut online, and it is quite interesting! However, does it have a "fire" to it like the round brilliant, or more of a glass cut look like the emerald cut? Plus, it was said that you need a large carat weight to truly appreciate the look of an Asscher, is this what you all find also? Also, if there are some St. Louis people in here, are there some good jewelers around town that I could go to to look at an Asscher cut diamond? Just interested in a different look perhaps!

Also looking at whiteflash.com at the Hearts and Arrows quality diamonds (Ideal Cut). Do you all really looks that much different in quality and sparkle to a regular round brillant of the same color and clarity? Let me know, I don''t want to waste my money on a gimmick!
 
If you are looking for a stone that is big, nice, and sparkly for whatever your budget may be, then an asscher is not the stone to pick.

You are pretty much right on about asschers, though they are, shall we say, an "aquired taste".

Asschers carry most of their weight in the belly of the stone. Generally, and usually the good ones, are cut deeper to give it that mile deep look. Asschers do not sparkle as much as a round brillant, and not quite glass like as you so put it, like an emerald, but does have sparkle, depending on cut and quality of stone.

A one carat asscher would look more smaller than a one carat round brilliant, I''m not quite sure by how much, but when I went to look at some asschers before I knew anything about them, I thought the jeweler was pulling my leg
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because it looked smaller than I thought it should have been, since I had only seen rounds.

The good thing with any stone, is is once it is set, depending on how high the setting is, the stone will appear bigger than it actually is. One of my friends have a 1.25 asscher set in a vatche X prong setting. When we compared it to loose 1.5 carat asschers, I could not tell the difference.

So, if you like asschers, you have the comfort of at least knowing that.

I love asschers, so that little piece of information comforts me. I find asschers very captivating and beautiful, very classic and elegant. I''ll never get a round, though I have nothing bad to say about them! They are truly beautiful as well!
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Asscher vs round
Which is better an apple or an orange?

ACA vs average diamonds == no contest visible difference to the ACA.

ACA vs WF ES in some cases no difference in appearance under most lighting conditions in extreme lighting conditions the ACA''s might edge out.

ACA againt the unbranded true H&A''s == stone by stone decision with personality being the biggest difference.
 
For the record asschers rock and would be my pick :}
 
I vote asscher. Classic and elegant.
 
I want a high setting. could this be achived well with an asscher?? Most i have seen have been set very low.
 
I love the way asscher cut diamonds look but in my opinion they are quite small compared to the same size round diamond. A co-worker has a 1carat asscher and it''s barely bigger than my .71 round so take that into consideration. Also look at Show Me The Ring/ Eye Candy to get an idea of what type of setting you might like. Good luck.
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I have an asscher (almost 2ct) and it does look smaller than a typical round of that size but nothing can compare to the unique beauty and elegance it has....(I have an obvious bias)
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I think that Asschers have a very classic sparkle, but it is true that larger asscher make it more possible to view the rare facets and to achieve the "glass" effect...

A friend of mine has an Asscher in a cathedral mounting...The ring sparkles like mad!!!!
 
jcrow-

My friend with an asscher in a vatche X prong setting looked rather low to me...she even agreed with me after shopping around and wanted to change her setting to a higher one. The same friend is the one I mentioned had a 1.25, but looked like close to a 1.5 loose when it was set. We compared it side by side.

So, basically what I''m trying to say is, that if you are trying to achieve a bigger look of an asscher, even in a low setting, it does appear bigger. With any set stone it will appear bigger.

As far as setting an asscher in a high setting, really depends on how high you want it, but I don''t think there should be any problems of how high or how low you set it.

What is your goal of getting a high setting?
 
I agree with LM about the comparison of rounds to asschers. They are smaller, but that''s what I feel makes them unique and beautiful. Yes, you don''t get much bang for your buck in an asscher, but they are very special in their own right.

My boyfriend tried to convince me to get a round, but I refuse. He even agreed to double the budget and I still declined. I said, triple it, and I''ll think about it!
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UCLABelle------ Please tell me you have pics of the rings????!!!

i am looking for a 2 ct. I keep going back and forth btw an asscher, cushion and round....


callista---

i guess what it boils down to is that my mother''s e-ring was a very high (or at least i think) 6 prong Tiffany style setting. I always tried it on when i was little and dreamed my e-ring would look like that one day. No side stones. Just a highly-set sparkly solitaire. Her''s was a RB. Now though, i am seeing wonderful asschers and cushions. i love those cuts too. However, i haven''t seen pics of these cuts as a plain ole solitaire.
 
Jcrow-

Seems like you are torn between stones. What it all boils down to is what you want and what you will be truly happy with. I originally wanted a princess before finding pricescope. When I decided to look for a diamond, I went diamond shopping with a friend who has an asscher. Immediately I fell in love with the stone. It was so orginal and unique, unlike any diamond I''d seen before. And a diamond I knew none of my friends (well, except her!) had or would get. I''m chinese, and most chinese, or asians for that matter, get round brilliant, D-F color, VVS1 to VVS2 diamonds. The second would be princesses.

So, knowing I am part of the exception, makes me feel my choice sets me apart from the rest, just like an asscher. I was bummed about not getting bang for the buck out of an asscher as I did more research, but I''ve long gotten over it. Getting the right setting will improve the appearance of the diamond, and I''ll love it because it suits my tastes.

IMO, I would take caution of very high settings. Having very high settings makes the wearer look like they are trying to make their diamond look bigger than it really is, which, IMO is slightly cheesy, especially when it''s a smaller carat weight. I had a friend who has a 2.8 RB in a very very high setting, and although it was big in it''s own right, on that setting it looked gawdy to me and others commented as well. Especially on her slim size 4.75 finger!

True, asschers are cheaper per carat compared to a super ideal round as stmrdr pointed out, but asshers are smaller in appearance compared to rounds. Is size really important to you?

So if you want a smaller, unique and elegant stone, go for an asscher. If you want big and sparkly, like you remembered your mother''s ring when you were a child, go for a round.

Go and look at rounds and asshers together and see what speaks to you more. That''s the only way you know what you want for sure.

IMO, rounds are a dime a dozen. Asschers are one in a million.
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Oh that''s a toughie as I just bought an asscher and am in love with it, but it''s small and is for a RHR. I wouldn''t put an asscher in a high setting if I were you. What is your budget, maybe that can help us.
 
thanks. We''re going this weekend to tiffany''s and hope to look at stones and settings there. I know we won''t buy it there, but i was thinking it would be a great place to start looking. i have been to several other stores, but most don''t carry 2 carat stones, much less in asscher cuts!!! i was hoping tiffany''s may have something?? i just wish to find a place that i can try on the 3 cuts in 2 carat weights in a plain solitaire setting- is that too much to ask? we''ll see.
 
Jcrow-

Where do you live? I''m from the SF area and agree, there is not a lot of places you can go to find asschers. I can refer you to some places. Or if not, you can do a search on this forum for jewelers in your location and call them up. It saves you the trouble of going there and not finding what you want. Half the places I went didn''t have asschers in stock. They had to call them in. I''m sure it was because asschers are not so popular and would sit on their shelves longer than a RB would.

Best of luck!
 
I forgot to mention: half the places didn''t have them in stock, and some didn''t even know what I was talking about! And one place, and this makes me laugh everytime, said they had asschers, and pulled out a radiant!
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louisiana- the best luck for finding asschers i would think would be new orleans. the good news (>?<) is that Stuller Settings home base near where i am.
 
doesn''t surprise me!!! i asked to see a cushion that had more of a square''s dimensions rather than rectangular. they said they didn''t make that. like it didn''t exist!

what are your thoughts on Royal Asschers vs. Asschers?
 
Sorry I can''t help you there, but again, best of luck in your search and let us know what you finally decide on. Call Tiffany''s to see if they have what you are looking for!
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hum- that''s a thought. maybe i should do that. call & see if they can get it in for this weekend....
why didn''t i think of that before???? Thanks!
 
Anytime!
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I personally find royal asshers to be beautiful as well, but very high priced! The non branded generic asschers are just as beautiful to me and more affordable. For bang for the buck when it comes to asshers, generic is the way to go. The less facets compared to the royal asscher don''t detract from it''s beauty at all IMO. Some people find the RA to be too busy looking. I can see where people would say that. But the extra facets give it that extra flash and brilliance, who doesn''t want that?

However, if I were given a choice to either have a RA or generic with all other parts being equal (except for price of course!), i''d choose a RA! Why? More flash and the name says it all, "Royal Asscher". How nice would it be to say I have a Royal Asscher as opposed to just an asscher?

I admit it! I''m a label whore! hahaha!

truth be told, i have yet to see a royal asscher in person, so who knows? i may not even like it!
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Yeh - me too...
i haven''t seen on in person either.

do you have a pic of your ring??
 
I''ll take the Round H&A any day! Just based on the pictures, they sparkle like crazy! And since they are cut so well, they have a larger spread. But it would be a good idea to see one in person, just to make sure it lives up to its hype.
 
Hey,

A couple of thoughts on rounds vs. asschers. I was looking at stones at a jeweler''s recently--a 1.89 ct RB & a 2.14 ct asscher. The spread on the RB was larger & it had much more sparkle, but I couldn''t stop looking at the asscher. But I looked at several other asschers & none drew me in like this one. So make sure you see the stones in person (or a good photograph) before purchasing. Rounds are bigger for the weight, but also typically more expensive per carat so this balances out to a degree.

A very wise PS-er once made the following comparison of the difference in sparkle between a round & an asscher:

A round is like a chandelier, while an asscher is like light reflecting off a lake.

Good luck & let us know what you decide!
 
BrightSpot,
Wow I''m impressed very well said!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree with everything everyone has said. Another thing to consider is what type of setting you are planning on purchasing. A setting that might look fabulous with a round stone might not be so hot with a square shaped stone..I experienced this first hand. And I know how difficult it is to find a b&m jeweler knowledgeable on stones that aren''t round or princess cut. Keep forging ahead and if worse comes to worse let a PS jeweler assist you with finding an asscher you love and a round you love and have them send it to an independent appraiser for you to view. Then you can make your choice that way. Goodluck and let us know how your search goes.
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Hello Jcrow!


I have some crappy pics of my ring! Here they are:


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Here is one more:

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Sorry they are so big....Never posted pics before...

Anyway...I cannot find the GIA cert right now but I will look for it and post the exact measurments (I think it was appox: 6.9 X 7.0) yet I believe it is slightly deeper than it should be...Don't know much about asschers...All I know is that I love mine...
The diamond is 1.93ct
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VVS2

Setting is an antique platinum ring
.40 cttw diamonds
G-I
SI1-SI2 clarity

Also, sorry the pics arn't very clear and are slightly yellow...BAD BAD BAD camera!!!
 
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