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Asscher Reset, to leave the a halo behind??

mommy2nk

mommy2nk

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I currently have an asscher set in a halo with pave down the sides. I loved the look immediately, however the craftmanship was lacking. Over the last 5 years I have picked apart my setting ie: I don't like the prongs, the halo isn't a well defined asscher shape (it's more rounded), the character of my asscher seems to be swallowed up by the way it is set in the halo, the milgrain has worn.. on and on.
The shank cracked on the insided (since repaired) and too top all that off my wedding bands are wearing down the gallery.

I had decided 3 years ago that I would eventually reset my diamond. I just celebrated my 5 year anniversary and had a 5 stone made. I could have of course used that money to fund the reset but then I wouldn't have my fabulous Nightingale. I am hoping to save enough for a reset sometime next year but I am wanting to gather ideas in the meantime.

Here are some of my thoughts and I really need the talented PS'ers to help me.

First bit off the reset.. I am in love with all the AVC and am wanting to eventually get one, just curious for those who have multiple e-rings do you alternate. I suppose I ask because if I invest in a reset then get an AVC would it be a waste or I could get a smaller AVC and not even do the reset... :Up_to_something: Then of course my poor little asscher would remain in the inferior setting.. :rolleyes:

Okay on to the reset, what I love about my ring is the finger coverage the halo gives me. I orginally had the jeweler set the stone as Tiffany style with two baguettes on the side. This setting really lacked craftsmanship and within two weeks I sent it back to be fixed. In addition I had always wanted a halo setting but had second guessed myself so when I sent it back I went with my original design.

I am noticing that many on here are going more for classic solitare or solitare with side stones. I am actually really loving the look. My concern would be if I don't reset in a halo setting that I will lose that coverage and suffer major DSS..

What I want to achieve is first a well crafted piece that I will love, second a more substancial appearance without overwhelming my asscher.

I am posting pictures of my current ring and then a few ideas I have with merging of the designs. ( I have saved these pictures and don't know if I got them from here or not. If it is your picture Please take credit.. thanks)
What I need thoughts on, I am thinking of sticking with the halo (just a nicer one with maybe claw prongs), adding either step cut traps or french cuts for the first few stones and then pave down the rest of the shank (one side not all three) or all the latter minus the halo?
Please share your thoughts on staying with the halo vs. leaving it out.
My stone is 1.28 carats 6.43 x 6.32 x 3.63
Thanks a bunch!

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Just for reference here is a side by side picture of my original and the halo together. Someone did this on my original post 6 years ago..

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I think what you need is a thin, delicate, and well defined asscher-shaped halo. :)
The one with the band widening as it approaches the center looks great too, and i think it will look good if you can manage to incorporate that w/ the halo!
 
I love the second one with the EC - with the halo & side traps. I originally had an asscher solitaire, but ended up trading it for an RB solitaire because I didn't like the lack of sparkle that an asscher has in a plain setting. I thought about haloing my asscher, but the settings that I liked were around $6K, and it was cheaper to just trade it for an RB, plus DH really didn't like the halo look.

However, if I still had an asscher, I would totally go with a halo & sidestones to maximize finger coverage. BTW, I think that your currect setting is lovely, but I totally understand shoddy craftsmanship & wanting to change it out.
 
Chiming in to help a fellow asscher lover!

I think your current ring is lovely, and I think a lot of women tend to halo their asschers in order to make them appear larger (I certainly know I've considered it).

However, I requested photoshop help fro the lovely ladies here on PS and subsequently decided maybe halo'ing my stone wasn't for me. I just couldn't see my sweet little stone being overshadowed/complicated throughout the years and decided that my ring should stay in its original three stone form.

I think the first reset you've posted would suit your asscher fabulously. I love asschers when combined with traps/shields/half-moons/trillions/ect... It's clean, simple, and classically striking. But that's just my humble opinion.

Perhaps if you could make the halo a bit more defined/delicate? If you could fix that, maybe you'd fall back in love with your setting :)

Either way, good luck and let us know what you decide!! :)
 
My humble opinion is that I do not prefer asschers in a halo. I think it distracts from the interesting patterns of an asscher. I like the first ring you posted minus the pave down the side. I don't know if you want a 3 stone ring since you have the YUMMY nightingale :love: :love:
Kismit has my dream asscher setting. I think you could play with this as a starting place. Do you like this style?? I think it has a lot of finger coverage
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/bgd-asscher-chrysoberyl.132212/?hilit=chrysoberyl%20BGD/
 
I recently got an Octavia asscher set in a double-x-prong Vatché setting (solitaire) and I absolutely love it. You have a beautiful octagonal asscher and I think this setting sets it off well (nothing else to detract from the lovely diamond itself):

https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/my-new-engagement-ring-octavia-asscher-in-vatch%C3%A9-setting.147371/?hilit=octavia/

I live in London, where the bling is not quite like in the US (more low-key, smaller solitaires than anything else really!) - so a solitaire suited me better.

The other ring I really liked when I was looking was an asscher with a very narrow halo and a narrow pavé ring (can't find a picture on the jeweller's website, sadly, any more) - that was considerably more money, so glad I found the Octavia!
 
I love the first one you posted with the traps! I am worried that if you end up getting another halo minus sidestones you may regret having spent the money on a reset for something that looks similar to what you currently own. However, I think if you halo and add some sidestones, it will be different enough. I love this look and have often considered it for my princess however I end up still loving the classic nature of the way mine is currently set, so I never pull the trigger. Anyways, here are some pics of some that I have saved that I think may give you some ideas too! Good Luck!!! Love your nightingale by the way!

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ForeKitty-I did think about just making the setting the same but more define but if I am going to put money into it I might as well put a little more bling. I do think if it had been more defined I wouldn't feel this way about it now.

Vespergirl- I keep thinking I should trade it for a round but I just love the look of the asscher so much. I think I would end up regretting it, how did you end up feeling about trading it. What was your asscher size in comparison to your new stone? I do think it will be something I consider for future big anniversaries. I can not spend $6000 on a setting, that would be crazy.. BTW your ring is one that I look at when I think I want a Round solitare, it is beautiful!!

Dearbudda- I love your current setting, what are the specs on your ring and ring size? I also checked out your photoshop picture, that is so neat that people can do that.

Cemrn-I love my halo, but I do have that feeling like my asscher is lost. In fact it wasn't until I took that close up picture that I realized that it was more octagon in shape. The corners of my setting and the area where my stone sits just does nothing for it. I saw a beautiful 3 stone ring but your right now that I have the Nightingale I don't think that would be for me. In fact, if I add side stones I don't want it to have the look of a three stone. NOW, that is one of the settings I have been looking at. I am talking with BGD and I do think if I decide to not go with the halo this will be an option minus the gold.

Sophie Asscher Love- I love your Octavia Asscher it is just beautiful. I know the solitare for me wouldn't work, not with this stone since I have had so much finger coverage with it's current setting. Where I am at now it really wanting to enhance my stone but a bit more bling too..hehe!

Lizzy Ann- I have the last photo saved, I love it. I too feel like if I am going to reset I might as well add to it and make it pop a bit more. I like the other two pictures minus the engraving I will have to store those.. thanks about my nightingale, I love it!!

Thanks for all your input, it is a ways away but I want to gather ideas now. Plus the compliments on it's current setting makes it more appreciated on my end..

thanks again!
 
mommy2nk said:
Vespergirl- I keep thinking I should trade it for a round but I just love the look of the asscher so much. I think I would end up regretting it, how did you end up feeling about trading it. What was your asscher size in comparison to your new stone? I do think it will be something I consider for future big anniversaries. I can not spend $6000 on a setting, that would be crazy.. BTW your ring is one that I look at when I think I want a Round solitare, it is beautiful!!
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Hey there, I really don't regret swapping my asscher, since I really love the extra size & sparkle that I get from the RB. However, if I could have gotten a halo & sidestones, I may have kept the asscher. Also, my asschers were only OK, as far as shape & step pattern. If I had something like a Royal Asscher, I don't think I would have traded it for the RB.

Your asscher is really beautiful & faces up big for the size, plus it has that gorgeous octagon shape & a great step pattern, so if I were you I would probably keep it. My first asscher was 1.64, and faced up 6.2. I traded up to a 2.25 ct asscher first, and that faced up 7.1. Then I downsized to a 2.01 ct RB, and that measures 8.2, so the RB faces up much bigger.

I still love asschers & ECs, and I think that maybe one day when I go back to work I will get a small asscher in a Ritani Endless Love halo for a RHR. However, for my everyday engagement ring, since I have two small kids, a solitaire setting makes the most sense for me.

I can't wait to see whatever you decide!
 
I think halos and three stone rings have one thing in common - they provide more finger coverage. Once you've had either one, it would probably be hard to go back to a solitaire setting in terms of size. There's nothing more beautiful than a gorgeous solitaire but once you've had that finger coverage, I think you would miss it. The only other way would be perhaps to trade the stone in on something larger.

You like the asscher but you also could think about a round or an AVC. I think I would first focus on the shape I would really like to have and go from there. I personally would rather have one nice ering than a couple - but that's just me. I think if you had a delicate, well made halo to put your stone in you'd probably be really happy with it!

There are so many choices and that makes it hard. Your stone is pretty but I think you'd suffer from DSS big time if you went back to a solitaire setting after having the halo.
 
vespergirl said:
mommy2nk said:
Vespergirl- I keep thinking I should trade it for a round but I just love the look of the asscher so much. I think I would end up regretting it, how did you end up feeling about trading it. What was your asscher size in comparison to your new stone? I do think it will be something I consider for future big anniversaries. I can not spend $6000 on a setting, that would be crazy.. BTW your ring is one that I look at when I think I want a Round solitare, it is beautiful!!
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Hey there, I really don't regret swapping my asscher, since I really love the extra size & sparkle that I get from the RB. However, if I could have gotten a halo & sidestones, I may have kept the asscher. Also, my asschers were only OK, as far as shape & step pattern. If I had something like a Royal Asscher, I don't think I would have traded it for the RB.

Your asscher is really beautiful & faces up big for the size, plus it has that gorgeous octagon shape & a great step pattern, so if I were you I would probably keep it. My first asscher was 1.64, and faced up 6.2. I traded up to a 2.25 ct asscher first, and that faced up 7.1. Then I downsized to a 2.01 ct RB, and that measures 8.2, so the RB faces up much bigger.

I still love asschers & ECs, and I think that maybe one day when I go back to work I will get a small asscher in a Ritani Endless Love halo for a RHR. However, for my everyday engagement ring, since I have two small kids, a solitaire setting makes the most sense for me.

I can't wait to see whatever you decide!
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My table is a bigger percentage then the depth so it ends up facing up larger or its carat weight. You know the thing about my asscher is, it was purchased before I came to PS and then once I found PS I got really down on my stone because the stats didn't measure up to what one would consider a good asscher. I had to keep looking at it and telling myself that it is indeed a beautiful stone. I still question it so it is nice to have others who know about this stone to compliment it. I have a lot of things to consider... thanks!
 
MissGotRocks said:
I think halos and three stone rings have one thing in common - they provide more finger coverage. Once you've had either one, it would probably be hard to go back to a solitaire setting in terms of size. There's nothing more beautiful than a gorgeous solitaire but once you've had that finger coverage, I think you would miss it. The only other way would be perhaps to trade the stone in on something larger.

You like the asscher but you also could think about a round or an AVC. I think I would first focus on the shape I would really like to have and go from there. I personally would rather have one nice ering than a couple - but that's just me. I think if you had a delicate, well made halo to put your stone in you'd probably be really happy with it!

There are so many choices and that makes it hard. Your stone is pretty but I think you'd suffer from DSS big time if you went back to a solitaire setting after having the halo.
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I totally agree about that, that is where I needed others opinions. I am completely in love with all the AVC and that is also something I might need to consider. It's just I am not even sure if other jewelers (GOG) take trade in on diamonds that were not purchased from then. If they do not sure if I would lose money on it. I do want an AVC though!!!
 
Thanks, Mommy2nk! :)

I can never remember my ring's exact specs, but I do remember that it's somewhere between 1.3 and 1.4 tcw. The trillions are VS2 and my irradiated asscher is VS1, set in platinum.

It is so neat what our friends here can do with photoshop! If it weren't for PS ladies' willingness to help, I might have changed my ring and ended up very disastisfied. I'm always so appreciative of the feedback I get here :appl:
 
I am also another asscher owner/lover so I can understand your issue with shrinkage as I have been feeling it with my ring as well! After giving it alot of thought I decided against haloing my ring because I love the clean lines of the asscher outline and think I would really miss them.

My vote would be to add side stones-either a single asscher on each side(that is how mine is currently set) or step cut traps with tapered baguettes or bullets(make it a 5 stone).

Good luck and I can't wait to see what you decide :)
 
stepcutnut said:
I am also another asscher owner/lover so I can understand your issue with shrinkage as I have been feeling it with my ring as well! After giving it alot of thought I decided against haloing my ring because I love the clean lines of the asscher outline and think I would really miss them.

My vote would be to add side stones-either a single asscher on each side(that is how mine is currently set) or step cut traps with tapered baguettes or bullets(make it a 5 stone).

Good luck and I can't wait to see what you decide :)
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I went back and looked at your ring, it is so beautiful. What is the carat weight of your middle stone and your side stones. It is so beautiful. I have seen a ring like that on DBL. I have also seen the 5 stone (Nice Ice's) which is breath taking. I just got a 5 stone so I don't think I would go that route. There are just way to many options!!! :eek:
 
mommy2nk said:
stepcutnut said:
I am also another asscher owner/lover so I can understand your issue with shrinkage as I have been feeling it with my ring as well! After giving it alot of thought I decided against haloing my ring because I love the clean lines of the asscher outline and think I would really miss them.

My vote would be to add side stones-either a single asscher on each side(that is how mine is currently set) or step cut traps with tapered baguettes or bullets(make it a 5 stone).

Good luck and I can't wait to see what you decide :)
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I went back and looked at your ring, it is so beautiful. What is the carat weight of your middle stone and your side stones. It is so beautiful. I have seen a ring like that on DBL. I have also seen the 5 stone (Nice Ice's) which is breath taking. I just got a 5 stone so I don't think I would go that route. There are just way to many options!!! :eek:
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Thank you, I do still really love it(diamond shrinkage is awful) and it is from DBL. David did a beautiful job with it(as usual). The center Asscher is 2.01ct and the sides are 2.23ctw-even with my size 7 finger it gives great finger coverage. There are soooo many options, but at least they are good things to think about :) Good luck with your decision!!!
 
I would search EricaD's asscher set by Leon Mege. It is the MOST BEAUTIFUL asscher ring I have ever seen. The main asscher has 4 side stones, two on each side. It's got amazing finger coverage and pretty much amazing in general.
 
Thin halo gets my vote.
And side stones, look at my Leon on my avatar... is that kinda what you are talking about?
 
I would do a thin halo on that puppy. I think if you take it out of the halo you will be really disappointed by the finger coverage.
 
I agree with the others, thin delicate halo, and the side stones and the bling down the shoulders of the ring. I think you will be happy with the halo as long as it accentuates the assher shape. That is critical. Since your halo right now looks more rounded or cushion shaped. I think if you do the traps on the side of the new halo it would also help bring out the assher shape. I think the picture of your second example definately makes the Assher stone shine. And It would give you the finger coverage and the BLING factor you are going for.

I also think if you loose the halo you would have intensified your diamond shrinkage.

Good luck
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cemrn said:
My humble opinion is that I do not prefer asschers in a halo. I think it distracts from the interesting patterns of an asscher. I like the first ring you posted minus the pave down the side. I don't know if you want a 3 stone ring since you have the YUMMY nightingale :love: :love:
Kismit has my dream asscher setting. I think you could play with this as a starting place. Do you like this style?? I think it has a lot of finger coverage
https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/bgd-asscher-chrysoberyl.132212/?hilit=chrysoberyl%20BGD//
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these are exactly my sentiments in regards to asschers. i've always loved asschers, particularly for their unique, fabulous facets. you said it yourself: the cut pattern gets lost in a halo.

if you're really wanting another halo, i'd keep it to a really thin one that matches the angles of the stone.

another vote for a halo-less reset. i LOVE the top setting you posted :love:
 
I've always loved the extremely octagonal shape of your asscher, Mommy2nk, so I think maybe emphasizing it could more easily be done with a bezel set halo. But, and I know the unbelievable financial cost of what I'm suggesting, I really think a baguette halo is simply the best way to get the finger coverage you want while retaining the architectural detail of your asscher. This one isn't my ideal because of the basket detail and broken up baguettes in the halo, but after seeing one in person, I've been smitten. I think I'd also leave the shank plain because I love Gypsy's Ocean halo with a plain shank so much.

Please don't stone me, kids. :naughty:

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Okay, here is a thought that I am having. First I am really not sure what I want to do with the reset. It also it isn't something I am able to do right away, need to save the money. I am really kind of bugged with my current setting and can't get a feel for my asscher in it's current setting, so... what my thought is: What if I take it out of it's current setting and place it in a temporary and inexpensive solitare setting? I know I would proably have size shock but it would give me an idea what my diamond is without the halo and if it drives me batty I can just reset it in it's current setting while I save for the reset? What do you all think?

Lauren-I do like the baguett halos..
 
mommy2nk said:
Okay, here is a thought that I am having. First I am really not sure what I want to do with the reset. It also it isn't something I am able to do right away, need to save the money. I am really kind of bugged with my current setting and can't get a feel for my asscher in it's current setting, so... what my thought is: What if I take it out of it's current setting and place it in a temporary and inexpensive solitare setting? I know I would proably have size shock but it would give me an idea what my diamond is without the halo and if it drives me batty I can just reset it in it's current setting while I save for the reset? What do you all think?

Lauren-I do like the baguett halos..
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That's a great idea. You could go with the cheapest white gold 4 prong solitaire setting, and see how you feel about not having a halo. That will help you make a decision on whether you want one with your reset.
 
Oh My!!! I was at Nordstroms today and wandered into the Fine Jewelry Department to have my ring cleaned. While waiting I was looking at the rings and saw this Jack Kelege setting. I tried it on and fell in love of course it is way over what I would spend and had a round but it was really fun to try on. The detail on this ring was amazing, everytime I took it off to look at it I noticed something different about it. I also tried on another one they had, it was pretty substancial and not something I would wear but it was still fun to try on. I can never figure out which pictures post first, so the one that I really liked is the picture with the two views. Very pretty stuff...

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anitabee said:
cemrn said:
My humble opinion is that I do not prefer asschers in a halo. I think it distracts from the interesting patterns of an asscher. I like the first ring you posted minus the pave down the side. I don't know if you want a 3 stone ring since you have the YUMMY nightingale :love: :love:
Kismit has my dream asscher setting. I think you could play with this as a starting place. Do you like this style?? I think it has a lot of finger coverage
[URL='https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/bgd-asscher-chrysoberyl.132212/?hilit=chrysoberyl%20BGD//']https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/bgd-asscher-chrysoberyl.132212/?hilit=chrysoberyl%20BGD//[/URL]
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these are exactly my sentiments in regards to asschers. i've always loved asschers, particularly for their unique, fabulous facets. you said it yourself: the cut pattern gets lost in a halo.

if you're really wanting another halo, i'd keep it to a really thin one that matches the angles of the stone.

another vote for a halo-less reset. i LOVE the top setting you posted :love:
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I agree with these posts. I just feel like the diamonds in the halo compete with patterns of an asscher, although the one that LTP posted looks good since the halo isn't made of round diamonds. Would you consider a bezel around the asscher to add finger coverage? I also like the photos of the ones with traps for sidestones... Good luck!
 
Hello everyone, I'm a long time lurker (4/5 years) and I'm so glad to be a new PS member because I can share my obsession for diamonds with all of you.

I'd like to give you my opinion because I'm so in love with fancy cuts...don't add a halo, an asscher diamond is beatiful by itself, plus your stone is quite large so you don't need to increase its dimension...let your eyes dive into it, it is a masterpiece.

Purplesilk
 
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