Any thoughts on this RB diamond? Suggestions?

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Yikes. I'm sorry if I have offended you in some way.

First, I never stated that a GIA diamond is an AGSL diamond, but that a GIA diamond can be of equal or greater QUALITY than an AGSL diamond. I apologize that my last line "GIA graded diamond CAN be an ACA diamond" may have stirred some confusion, but I thought it was self explanatory that I was referring to the quality. I assure you that, though I am no expert, I know that GIA != AGSL.

Second, I respectfully disagree that just because you have a GIA diamond that you can never know if you have a great diamond that would parallel or surpass an AGSL graded diamond. I do believe there is a science to it. With a complete set of proportions as well as the right set of images (particular light performance maps) I would like to believe even an astute amateur can be confident of how particularly good a diamond is compared to another.

I'm not really certain what you're getting at when you say I'm beating myself up, or what I can and can't afford, etc. but that certainly is presumptuous. I've never attempted to make something that is not to something that is - and I think this is the point I'm trying to make. A great diamond will be a great diamond, whether it has a GIA or AGSL certificate attached to it.

If ever there was a motive, it would be to find those great diamonds out there that haven't been cherry picked and for amateurs like myself who are willing to do the legwork to find them. I would hope there are others like me who don't believe such an endeavor is as futile as some would have us believe.

I very much appreciate all the feedback I've gotten on the thread and all the veterans who have chimed in. This is a great community and I'm happy to have been a part of it. Every bit has been educational.

I will now be signing off on this thread as it has since digressed far from it's initial purpose.
My sincerest apologies if I have offended anyone.

Thanks again!

SGOne, I sure hope you will return to this thread. Spirited discussion is a learning tool for all of us. I bet that I read this forum for over 3 or 4 years before I joined. No presumptions towards you in my comments, just my thoughts if it were myself looking for a diamond.

You brought up your motive to find that perfect diamond. I really don't know how the market works, but for you or me finding a stone that has not been already cherry picked and in the hands of a vendors would be hard. I don't know how one would go about doing so without knowing someone. That is why I rely on this forum to help guide & inform me. I did not know anything about diamonds until 3 or 4 years ago, but what I have learned is if I want that perfect stone, I will likely go to one of the many vendors mentioned here, rather than try to find a stone that may have been missed and then try to figure out if it is a gem.

I guess what I am saying is, if I want a beautiful GIA, I will search these vendors here who deal in them, if I want an AGSL 0, I will seek those vendors out, and if I want an AGSL ACA or a Signature, I will go to them.

I admire you for doing the research to find that perfect stone, that is why this forum is here, to help us learn along the way. Going back to your first post here, the diamond you selected, it does look nice and it may be that perfect stone. I don't know who you are dealing with, what they have in diamonds, many of us don't live close enough to view them in person. Most vendors that are here have great return policies as well as trade up policies. I believe you need to see that diamond for yourself, and as in my previous post, it is the diamond you are buying not the grading report.