Another college gone crazy.

[telephone89]

Yep, this is a non-issue. Anyone can use their own scale in their own home. Please also note that this is a gym in the athletic department of the university. The athletic department is promoting measuring body parts as opposed to going by numbers on the scale. No one's personal rights are at risk. They are free to use their own scales if they want. This isn't a snowflake issue at all. It's an athletic department's decision, that may be revisited at any time. It was not done as some assume, due to complaints by students.

This is what I was thinking.

Hit up walmart and buy a $10 scale if you're so worried. Ruby, perhaps you'd be willing to sponsor this effort? You seem quite concerned for the health of our students, instead of bitching about what the school is doing why not try to change it or spearhead your own effort!

Anyways. It's not like they took away something that would cost the avg person hundreds or thousands to replace on their own. It's a f*cking scale.

 

[Maria D]

I wasn't going to reply to this but.....it beats the shoveling I'm putting off so here is my 2 cents.

The thread topic is IMO just trying to incite a reaction. Threads like this don't make a lot of sense to me and to boot it starts off on a very negative foot. So I guess my question is, what is the point? I mean, I could see if I had a student attending this school where I might have an opinion about something but aside from that I just don't see the need to be concerned.

I had a personal trainer a few years ago and she told me to worry more about being able to fit into your jeans than the number on the scale. On top of that, at the time I was a manic about weighing myself every morning and I do not have an eating disorder but it is easy to become obsessive about these things.

There are plenty of stores where you can go buy a scale, it's not a necessity of life like food and water, nobody is going to kick the bucket because they don't have access to a scale.

StephanieLynn, you answered your own question. The point of this thread was to incite a reaction. Success! Some people knit to pass the time, some engage in internet discourse. James Taylor sang "the secret of life is enjoying the passage of time." This thread is an example of how we are all enjoying? killing? time.

 

[OreoRosies86]

And LOL yes, let us hearken back to the golden, enlightened, health conscious, socially aware 19-f***ing-50s.

Better get your a$$ in the kitchen. That dinner isn't going to make itself.

I think it's important for women and young girls especially to constantly be reminded to toughen up and not be snowflakes, while ALSO being constantly reminded that their body is literally non stop judgment fodder. But someone has to tell these girls that wearing certain types of clothing is a privilege, not a right. And if that makes them feel like sh!t, suck it up buttercup. Because back in the 1950's a doctor could get through a full pack of Marlboros while delivering a baby, and the mothers had better things to do than complain about it!

I would know, because I'm an atheist, and atheists are discriminated against sometimes. What does that have to do with anything? You tell me if you're so smart.

 

[ruby59]

I wasn't going to reply to this but.....it beats the shoveling I'm putting off so here is my 2 cents.

The thread topic is IMO just trying to incite a reaction. Threads like this don't make a lot of sense to me and to boot it starts off on a very negative foot. So I guess my question is, what is the point? I mean, I could see if I had a student attending this school where I might have an opinion about something but aside from that I just don't see the need to be concerned.

I had a personal trainer a few years ago and she told me to worry more about being able to fit into your jeans than the number on the scale. On top of that, at the time I was a manic about weighing myself every morning and I do not have an eating disorder but it is easy to become obsessive about these things.

There are plenty of stores where you can go buy a scale, it's not a necessity of life like food and water, nobody is going to kick the bucket because they don't have access to a scale.

StephanieLynn, you answered your own question. The point of this thread was to incite a reaction. Success! Some people knit to pass the time, some engage in internet discourse. James Taylor sang "the secret of life is enjoying the passage of time." This thread is an example of how we are all enjoying? killing? time.

Maria, have you posted the same about the 40 page Trump tweet thread? Hypocrite much.

But again, I,I,I. It is not all about you. It is there for those who want to use it, but no one is forcing you to do so.

 

[ruby59]

I also have an autoimmune thyroid condition, and I will say that the only real way to monitor it is by blood test that tests all thyroid function, including T3, on a regular basis. I have mine done about every four months.

Not everyone with a low thyroid will be overweight. Even at its very worst, when I was diagnosed (I was within weeks of going into a coma-- first baby was six months old and I assumed the symptoms were exhausted new mom), I was maybe 5 lbs over. Additionally, weighing yourself is pretty useless, since thyroid-related weight gain is a gradual process. By the time your weight has crept up noticeably, your thyroid has been low for too long.

I exercise hard and regularly and have found that when I've been injured and am not exercising at all for any real length of time, I will be at my lightest on a scale despite the fact that my resting heart rate and triglycerides are worse.

My daughter has regular tests to monitor her thyroid. She has been in a so called holding pattern for a few years showing normal blood tests but still the antibodies indicating something had happened.

Doctor told her to monitor her weight.

 

[ruby59]

Monarch, I am diabetic. It is very important that my BMI remain normal. And that means a tight control of my weight. Doctor asks that I monitor my weight and keep track of it like I do my glucose readings.

Mu daughter has thyroid auto immune. Doctor told her to monitor her weight as well as a sudden increase means her thyroid is out of whack.

So, please no BS, Monarch, about my lack of compassion.

We all go to the gym for different reasons. A scale is there for those who need it.

Why?

Because you do not have the capability to understand that people with chronic health conditions must monitor their weight to avoid what Kenny's SO is going through?

What does that say about your ability to show compassion to people who depend on that scale to avoid complications.

People with chronic health conditions must monitor their health, not their weight. They are not the same. You can drink 32 oz. of water and be two pounds heavier on the scale. You can skip meals, lowering your blood sugar, and be two pounds lighter. The number on the scale isn't always indicative of health. If your doctor told you to monitor your BMI for your diabetes, I'd get a different doctor. BMI's have been shown to be wildly inaccurate. If you're any type of athlete, or have a large frame, your BMI is not at all a good reflection of your overall body condition.

There's been a huge issue over the last 10-15 years with people that are technically "thin" and light on the scale, but they have no muscle tone and poor lifestyle habits. The issue of triggering those with eating disorders aside, the number on the scale really isn't an effective measure of health. Doctors do it because it's efficient. They see dozens of patients a day and don't have time to break out the calipers for each and every one, but if you're working with a personal trainer focused on getting you healthy, they will tell you that it's not about the scale, it's about the measurements.

Sonny, thank you for your post.

I am seeing an adult endocrinologist but it is pretty much the same advice the pediatric endocrinologist gave my daughter.

We only see him every 6 months. And he did check me with calipers on my original visit and does it yearly.. But it is important I monitor my weight between visits.

As I am sure you know as a biologist, just keeping your weight in a normal range will decrease your AC1 numbers.

I am able to decrease my diabetic meds when I keep my weight in accordance with my height, and at 5 foot 3, I have to be very careful. Around the holidays when I cheat a little, my glucose nos do go up.

 

[ruby59]

Any excuse to shame others, I guess.

Meanwhile my fat fabulous a$$ is in leggings enjoying the snow!

Are you diabetic, Elliott.

Well having a fat a%% or anything else can mean heart and kidney problems, amputation and blindness.

 

[ruby59]

People with chronic health conditions must monitor their health, not their weight. They are not the same. You can drink 32 oz. of water and be two pounds heavier on the scale. You can skip meals, lowering your blood sugar, and be two pounds lighter. The number on the scale isn't always indicative of health. If your doctor told you to monitor your BMI for your diabetes, I'd get a different doctor. BMI's have been shown to be wildly inaccurate. If you're any type of athlete, or have a large frame, your BMI is not at all a good reflection of your overall body condition.

There's been a huge issue over the last 10-15 years with people that are technically "thin" and light on the scale, but they have no muscle tone and poor lifestyle habits. The issue of triggering those with eating disorders aside, the number on the scale really isn't an effective measure of health. Doctors do it because it's efficient. They see dozens of patients a day and don't have time to break out the calipers for each and every one, but if you're working with a personal trainer focused on getting you healthy, they will tell you that it's not about the scale, it's about the measurements.

Exactly. BMI has been known to be inaccurate for quite some time, although Drs offices still use scales in order to take weight for people's charts. Anyone who thinks that diabetes can be monitored by BMI is flat out wrong. As an athlete, my BMI has been in the "overweight/obese" range for quite some time--with the exception of prior to college when I wasn't lifting weights.

BMI is one factor. Blood pressure, A1C, cholesterol are others.

Are you diabetic, Lovedogs. Do you see an endocrinologist. So unless you have walked the walk, do not tell me that I am flat out wrong, because you have no clue what it takes to control it.

 

[ruby59]

For someone with an eating disorder, using a scale becomes compulsive. It isn't a matter of "just don't use it." It is a matter of "my brain won't let me stop." Just like putting a drug of choice in front of an addict and telling them "don't use," the scale becomes a serious problem. Weighing one's self actually triggers and encourages a person's eating disorder. It perpetuates it.

This isn't a matter of Snowflake-ism. This is a matter of helping individuals who are trying to conquer their incredibly deadly mental disorders. I've said this before and I will say it again, Anorexia has the highest death rate of all of the mental illnesses.

So how about this? If people want to weigh themselves so badly, they can take their butts to the nearest Walmart and plunk down $19 for a scale. It isn't the job of the College to provide complimentary weighing services.

Why should those people have to go to Walmart to buy an inferior scale when a doctor quality one is there for them.

Why don't people like you just learn how to pass by it or go in a different direction?

And I am well aware about anxiety and stress and what a killer it is?

Try learning the day before Thanksgiving that your glucose was 380 and then go on the Internet and learn that the disease will have you dead yesterday.

As far as the college, the scale was already there just like it was when my two kids wet to college and in the gym we exercise in.

 

[ruby59]

Ruby, have you no compassion? You know Kenny just posted about his SO having congestive heart failure and we discussed his SO's eating disorder as possibly being a complicating factor. Now here you are with a thread mocking eating disorders. Seriously?

I know a lot about EDs from personal experience. They never quite go away even if one learns how to manage them. Triggers are everywhere. If this school hopes to help some students by removing g a trigger, why not support that? I truly don't understand your sneering at those who are different from you because you perceive them as weak. Surely you are not this insensitive and overlooked Kenny's thread, not to mention all the people here who over the years have posted about their own struggles with EDs. This thread makes me sad.

Monarch, I am diabetic. It is very important that my BMI remain normal. And that means a tight control of my weight. Doctor asks that I monitor my weight and keep track of it like I do my glucose readings.

Mu daughter has thyroid auto immune. Doctor told her to monitor her weight as well as a sudden increase means her thyroid is out of whack.

So, please no BS, Monarch, about my lack of compassion.

We all go to the gym for different reasons. A scale is there for those who need it.

What does YOUR health condition and weight have to do with a university in Canada's gym removing a scale? Can you not use your own scale in your own house? One has nothing to do with the other, and you know it. You are using this topic to mock others, once again.

Could some of those in the college also have diabetes and weight issues? And if it can happen there it could happen at the colleges my girls go to or the gym I work out at?

And all I see is you mocking me, someone with a legit reason for needing a scale.

 

[ruby59]

And LOL yes, let us hearken back to the golden, enlightened, health conscious, socially aware 19-f***ing-50s.

Better get your a$$ in the kitchen. That dinner isn't going to make itself.

You women are pathetic if this is how you treat other women who enjoy keeping house and cooking for their family.

As far as being health conscious, look around. Americans are fatter then ever? Why do you think diabetes has become so common here.

In the 1950s people walked. Now I see them drive to their mailboxes.

 

[ruby59]

Yep, this is a non-issue. Anyone can use their own scale in their own home. Please also note that this is a gym in the athletic department of the university. The athletic department is promoting measuring body parts as opposed to going by numbers on the scale. No one's personal rights are at risk. They are free to use their own scales if they want. This isn't a snowflake issue at all. It's an athletic department's decision, that may be revisited at any time. It was not done as some assume, due to complaints by students.

This is what I was thinking.

Hit up walmart and buy a $10 scale if you're so worried. Ruby, perhaps you'd be willing to sponsor this effort? You seem quite concerned for the health of our students, instead of bitching about what the school is doing why not try to change it or spearhead your own effort!

Anyways. It's not like they took away something that would cost the avg person hundreds or thousands to replace on their own. It's a f*cking scale.

Did you ever stop to think it goes both way. It is a f scale, so get over it.

 

[ruby59]

I wasn't going to reply to this but.....it beats the shoveling I'm putting off so here is my 2 cents.

The thread topic is IMO just trying to incite a reaction. Threads like this don't make a lot of sense to me and to boot it starts off on a very negative foot. So I guess my question is, what is the point? I mean, I could see if I had a student attending this school where I might have an opinion about something but aside from that I just don't see the need to be concerned.

I had a personal trainer a few years ago and she told me to worry more about being able to fit into your jeans than the number on the scale. On top of that, at the time I was a manic about weighing myself every morning and I do not have an eating disorder but it is easy to become obsessive about these things.

There are plenty of stores where you can go buy a scale, it's not a necessity of life like food and water, nobody is going to kick the bucket because they don't have access to a scale.

Have you posted the same to the 40 page Trump tweet thread or just added to it?

And are you comparing your personal trainer to my endocrinologist.

And again with the I, I, I. You are not diabetic so you have no clue.

Also, you go buy the Walmart scale. I prefer to use the one at the gym which is the same as the one at my doctor's office and more accurate.

Nobody is going to kick the bucket - what a disgusting thing to say. Do you have a clue to the complications of diabetes?

 

[chemgirl]

Ugh the real issue here is certain posters not understanding the difference between weight for a fit person and weight for a sedentary person. Sure, if you have a normal routine that doesn't involve pushing yourself and building fitness, a scale will give you a good idea of what's going on health and diet wise. If you are at the gym regularly and really training ie. increasing resistance/ weights/ distance, you will gain muscle, but lose fat. So according to the scale you might gain, stay the same, or lose a few pounds, but that number will in no way represent changes in body fat and health. It's a number to fixate on, but it means nothing and will discourage more than anything.

For example I gain an average of 20 pounds when I ramp up training for a race. I know my body fat percentage is lower. A women I work with nearly quit her workout routine because she was so discouraged by the scale. she quit smoking and has been working out since before Christmas, but she gained weight. She is significantly smaller than when she started and she can physically do so much more.

A doctor will have someone track weight because it is a good indicator for a lot of people. This has nothing to do in any way with people who train at this gym.

 

[telephone89]

So after further research, it appears this story originated from the University newspaper, and was then picked up by Breitbart.

Here is the original article: http://charlatan.ca/2017/03/athletics-removes-weight-scale-from-carleton-gym/

"Bruce Marshall, manager of health and wellness at Athletics, said focusing only on weight can have a negative impact.

“We don’t believe being fixated on weight has any positive effect on your health and well-being,” Marshall said in an email. “The body is an amazing machine and even when we are dieting and training it will often find a homeostasis at a certain weight.”

Marshall added it can take a long time to see a change in weight.

“It takes weeks, even months to make a permanent change in your weight. So why obsess about it?” he said. “Why not look at other indicators?”

Note the title on the breitbart article is: Carleton University Removes Scales from Campus Gym to Promote Body Acceptance
When that's not what the original article said at all.

From there it was picked up by every conservative paper, mostly in the US.

 

[ruby59]

So after further research, it appears this story originated from the University newspaper, and was then picked up by Breitbart.

Here is the original article: http://charlatan.ca/2017/03/athletics-removes-weight-scale-from-carleton-gym/

"Bruce Marshall, manager of health and wellness at Athletics, said focusing only on weight can have a negative impact.

“We don’t believe being fixated on weight has any positive effect on your health and well-being,” Marshall said in an email. “The body is an amazing machine and even when we are dieting and training it will often find a homeostasis at a certain weight.”

Marshall added it can take a long time to see a change in weight.

“It takes weeks, even months to make a permanent change in your weight. So why obsess about it?” he said. “Why not look at other indicators?”

Note the title on the breitbart article is: Carleton University Removes Scales from Campus Gym to Promote Body Acceptance
When that's not what the original article said at all.

From there it was picked up by every conservative paper, mostly in the US.

Even if the article was flat out wrong, you women's responses to me are very telling.

 

[OreoRosies86]

Any excuse to shame others, I guess.

Meanwhile my fat fabulous a$$ is in leggings enjoying the snow!

Are you diabetic, Elliott.

Well having a fat a%% or anything else can mean heart and kidney problems, amputation and blindness.

Nope! I have managed to not become a diabetic.

 

[ruby59]

Any excuse to shame others, I guess.

Meanwhile my fat fabulous a$$ is in leggings enjoying the snow!

Are you diabetic, Elliott.

Well having a fat a%% or anything else can mean heart and kidney problems, amputation and blindness.

Nope! I have managed to not become a diabetic.

So are you blaming people for getting diabetes because they could not control their weight?

Be careful there.

But just to clue you in I got it because I had two gestational diabetes pregnancies.

With one you are more prone to getting it later in life. With two, you are pretty much assured.

I had my second baby anyway.

 

[OreoRosies86]

Read into it however you will, Rubes.

 

[ruby59]

Read into it however you will, Rubes.

I believe I already did, El.

You control your weight so have not gotten diabetes. Because only fat people get it.

But do not worry, as a liberal, you are safe from the villagers and their pitchforks.

 

[OreoRosies86]

Read into it however you will, Rubes.

I believe I already did, El.

You control your weight so have not gotten diabetes. Because only fat people get it.

But do not worry, as a liberal, you are safe from the villagers and their pitchforks.

Anyone who doesn't behave like a complete dolt is generally safe from those pesky pitchforks

 

[Maria D]

I wasn't going to reply to this but.....it beats the shoveling I'm putting off so here is my 2 cents.

The thread topic is IMO just trying to incite a reaction. Threads like this don't make a lot of sense to me and to boot it starts off on a very negative foot. So I guess my question is, what is the point? I mean, I could see if I had a student attending this school where I might have an opinion about something but aside from that I just don't see the need to be concerned.

I had a personal trainer a few years ago and she told me to worry more about being able to fit into your jeans than the number on the scale. On top of that, at the time I was a manic about weighing myself every morning and I do not have an eating disorder but it is easy to become obsessive about these things.

There are plenty of stores where you can go buy a scale, it's not a necessity of life like food and water, nobody is going to kick the bucket because they don't have access to a scale.

StephanieLynn, you answered your own question. The point of this thread was to incite a reaction. Success! Some people knit to pass the time, some engage in internet discourse. James Taylor sang "the secret of life is enjoying the passage of time." This thread is an example of how we are all enjoying? killing? time.

Maria, have you posted the same about the 40 page Trump tweet thread? Hypocrite much.

But again, I,I,I. It is not all about you. It is there for those who want to use it, but no one is forcing you to do so.

Ruby, I did not use the word "I" once in the response that you quoted - I did not think this thread was all about me. I believe it is all about you, actually. I can see you are having (your idea of) fun, and I am glad for that. Is the Trump tweet thread all about you too? I haven't read all of it. Would you like me to post something there with which you can "enjoy the passage of time?" What kind of thing would suit you best? You've already called me a hypocrite so you might be bored with that.

Like you, I am snowed in with this blizzard, so I've got some time on my hands. I'mg going to exercise in my home gym and then probably weigh myself, but after that I'm happy to keep you entertained!

 

[Calliecake]

LOL!!! I love you Maria D!!!!

 

[cmd2014]

Actually, most physicians weigh people because many medications are dosed by per pound/kilo of body weight. So they need to know your weight to prescribe appropriately. BMI only works provided that an individual is not muscular or particularly large/small in frame, and it has been widely criticized as a flawed measure of what it purports to measure (i.e., health). Same with absolute body weight. Most physicians, kinesiologists, epidemiologists, and other health researchers are moving in different directions in regard to measuring health.

Carleton University in Ottawa also has a well respected Health Sciences programme that consists of biomedical sciences, epidemiology, and masters/doctoral degrees in health policy and planning. My read of the article is that they are moving in that direction within their athletics program to reflect current research regarding markers of health. If you read the article that was posted carefully, it was only a student Facebook poster who raised the issue of eating disorders and the fact that scales can be triggering. So Ruby, as a Canadian and as an alumni of Carleton University (although my final degree was awarded elsewhere), I find this a little insulting for this to be posted as a snarky commentary on "special snowflakes."

I would also be surprised to hear of a physician suggesting the use of monitoring weight as a measure of thyroid function, blood sugar levels, HDL/LDL levels, metabolic function, or any other absolute measure of health. These are typically assessed via blood work and clinical signs/symptoms (which for thyroid are fatigue, thinning hair, dry skin, cognitive and mood changes, changes in appetite, and difficulties regulating body temperature if you are low, and insomnia, sweating, heart palpitations, anxiety, loss of appetite, and restlessness/agitation if you are high). For most chronic endocrine conditions, weight changes are so gradual that you will be up or down for far too long before they show up. Yearly blood tests at a mimimum are recommended, as is blood work performed at any point where the patient feels symptomatic. Medication changes are typically only ordered if the blood work demonstrates a need for change.

Body fat does contribute to Type II diabetes (as it contributes to insulin resistance) but it is not a factor in Type I diabetes. Body fat can also contribute to PCOS and metaboic syndrome (a leading cause of heart disease). But this is better assessed through body fat analysis (callipers, water displacement testing, or even a body fat scale) than by weight or BMI. Of course, most physicians wouldn't assume that this is available to the average patient, so they use weight as a proxy measure.

 

[ruby59]

Read into it however you will, Rubes.

I believe I already did, El.

You control your weight so have not gotten diabetes. Because only fat people get it.

But do not worry, as a liberal, you are safe from the villagers and their pitchforks.

Anyone who doesn't behave like a complete dolt is generally safe from those pesky pitchforks

And if being a dolt means not going with the majority and having your own beliefs , and standing up to them, yes call me an adorable dolt.

 

[monarch64]

Yeah...hmm. Who is this thread really about, Ruby? Seems like it's mostly about YOU, your daughter, and both of your health issues. Somehow, someway, those damn snowflakes infiltrated a Canadian university, took away their amazing scale, and ruined everything for you and your daughter. You might wanna get your hearing checked, too, since you are tone deaf AF.

 

[ruby59]

I wasn't going to reply to this but.....it beats the shoveling I'm putting off so here is my 2 cents.

The thread topic is IMO just trying to incite a reaction. Threads like this don't make a lot of sense to me and to boot it starts off on a very negative foot. So I guess my question is, what is the point? I mean, I could see if I had a student attending this school where I might have an opinion about something but aside from that I just don't see the need to be concerned.

I had a personal trainer a few years ago and she told me to worry more about being able to fit into your jeans than the number on the scale. On top of that, at the time I was a manic about weighing myself every morning and I do not have an eating disorder but it is easy to become obsessive about these things.

There are plenty of stores where you can go buy a scale, it's not a necessity of life like food and water, nobody is going to kick the bucket because they don't have access to a scale.

StephanieLynn, you answered your own question. The point of this thread was to incite a reaction. Success! Some people knit to pass the time, some engage in internet discourse. James Taylor sang "the secret of life is enjoying the passage of time." This thread is an example of how we are all enjoying? killing? time.

Maria, have you posted the same about the 40 page Trump tweet thread? Hypocrite much.

But again, I,I,I. It is not all about you. It is there for those who want to use it, but no one is forcing you to do so.

Ruby, I did not use the word "I" once in the response that you quoted - I did not think this thread was all about me. I believe it is all about you, actually. I can see you are having (your idea of) fun, and I am glad for that. Is the Trump tweet thread all about you too? I haven't read all of it. Would you like me to post something there with which you can "enjoy the passage of time?" What kind of thing would suit you best? You've already called me a hypocrite so you might be bored with that.

Like you, I am snowed in with this blizzard, so I've got some time on my hands. I'mg going to exercise in my home gym and then probably weigh myself, but after that I'm happy to keep you entertained!

I am posting this because I am standing up for a chronic condition and why I have the need to weigh myself. Remember, this discussion started yesterday before the snow.

But once again you are making a mockery out of a very serious health condition,

And so glad you can afford your own home gym. We peasants are waiting for it to clear so we can get to the gym and walk the track.

But until then, I have monitored my blood pressure, glucose level, and am monitoring my steps to try to reach 10,000 even though I am housebound until the weather clears.

 

[ruby59]

Yeah...hmm. Who is this thread really about, Ruby? Seems like it's mostly about YOU, your daughter, and both of your health issues. Somehow, someway, those damn snowflakes infiltrated a Canadian university, took away their amazing scale, and ruined everything for you and your daughter. You might wanna get your hearing checked, too, since you are tone deaf AF.

?

Well I am talking about a serious health condition that can affect those in college and am standing up for their rights as to why they need a scale.

So yes, I am using two health conditions I am familiar with to speak out about it.

Rather than some of you that are commenting about something you do not have a clue about, because you do not care for me.

When I said "herd" in another post I underestimated how true that was.

 

[YadaYadaYada]

I wasn't going to reply to this but.....it beats the shoveling I'm putting off so here is my 2 cents.

The thread topic is IMO just trying to incite a reaction. Threads like this don't make a lot of sense to me and to boot it starts off on a very negative foot. So I guess my question is, what is the point? I mean, I could see if I had a student attending this school where I might have an opinion about something but aside from that I just don't see the need to be concerned.

I had a personal trainer a few years ago and she told me to worry more about being able to fit into your jeans than the number on the scale. On top of that, at the time I was a manic about weighing myself every morning and I do not have an eating disorder but it is easy to become obsessive about these things.

There are plenty of stores where you can go buy a scale, it's not a necessity of life like food and water, nobody is going to kick the bucket because they don't have access to a scale.

Have you posted the same to the 40 page Trump tweet thread or just added to it?

And are you comparing your personal trainer to my endocrinologist.

And again with the I, I, I. You are not diabetic so you have no clue.

Also, you go buy the Walmart scale. I prefer to use the one at the gym which is the same as the one at my doctor's office and more accurate.

Nobody is going to kick the bucket - what a disgusting thing to say. Do you have a clue to the complications of diabetes?

Ruby, you are so completely rude, yes "I", "I", "I", too bad if you have a problem with it, you started a thread so you need to be able to deal with a difference of opinion in a mature respectable matter. You failed at that. No, I'm not comparing your specialist to my personal trainer, however, as some responders have pointed out, BMI can be an inaccurate measure of health, especially for certain body builds and athletes.

Oh and "I" may not be diabetic BUT my husband is, and even so, how do you know what health conditions I have. Way to put a hefty amount of ugliness into a thread. So I am not ignorant to the health repercussions of diabetes and I actually in fact do have a clue. Also I don't know what Trump thread you refer to, I don't comment on political threads because I have no interest.

You can think my comment about kicking the bucket is disgusting, that just means that you take things too personally. You have started MANY antagonistic threads which I have never bothered with and after this one I will NEVER comment on another one. Instead I will choose to spend my time responding to posters looking for support, sharing useful information, or having a laugh, not these antagonistic threads that just seek to discredit and insult other members.

THAT I think is disgusting. "I", "I", "I".

Edited to add, since you apparently couldn't get all your ugliness and insults into one response that I NEVER had a home gym, I have a ten year old treadmill, the personal trainer was a gift so why don't you take your assumptions somewhere else.

You owe me an apology, multiple insults, multiple assumptions and overall nastiness. Never have I don't anything to personally attack you but you on the other hand are mighty quick to hit back.

 

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I am posting this because I am standing up for a chronic condition and why I have the need to weigh myself.

Ruby, please read my post above. The rationale behind the decision at Carleton University was based on trying to get people to be more aware of better markers of health besides weight. It had nothing to do with eating disorders or body image (again, that was speculation from a 17 year old Facebook poster...not exactly a reputable source), and it is insulting to have decisions that have been based on scientific evidence reduced to snarky remarks about some presumed need to protect the feelings of special snowflakes.

In addition, I struggle to see how posting a misleading article on a Canadian University (known for it's biomedical sciences program btw) takes away your right to monitor your health in whatever way you see fit. I imagine you are not flying to Ottawa on a regular basis to weigh yourself on that scale, but instead you choose to spend $20 for one that you can use at home.