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Am I stuck with a ring I don''t love? Options??

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I LOVE your rings! I remember your debate about the wedding band. But I won''t have a diamond as big as yours, so I definitely want a diamond band. Will one work with the height of your solitaire setting head do you think?
 
Hi Dem, good to hear you feel better.
What about this scenario - diamond goes to the pendant, setting is perfect for RHR with colored stone of your favorite color?
Date: 6/15/2006 9:49:08 AM
Author: Dee*Jay

Date: 6/15/2006 8:49:43 AM
Author: dbgaap
I bet there are people out there looking at your EC now and thinking, WoW! How much do you want? I''ll give you cash for it!
Too bad we can''t get Demelza together with Professer -- bet Professer''s girlfriend would LOVE that ring!
Professer can enquire thru Bill Pearlman if he is not afraid to buy with no return. And Bill has his Show case in our Gallery he can advertise any jewelry he wants in, including consignment, it''s free.
We are glad to help as much as we can, all we ask for is help from community with keeping no sales, no promo rule on the forums.

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Wow, that is really, really nice of PriceScope to offer the suggestion of someone working through Pearlman''s if they are interested in your ring! I see nothing to lose by listing it on consignment. (I really don''t like it as a pendant, though.) Like you, I rarely wear a RHR even though I have sapphire and tanzanite rings with diamonds.
 
hehe well Dem didn't really mention a super important piece of why this is such a dilemma.
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she doesn't wear any other jewelry than rings. i said what about a pendant, what about a bracelet etc. she will wear another RING and often does on her right hand but she doesn't wear other jewelry.

i would probably sell it on consignment and take the cash and do other things with it, aka get a bigger solitaire pendant, get a diamond bracelet or something. but since she doesn't wear other jewelry, options are limited.
 
Date: 6/15/2006 11:33:10 AM
Author: Pricescope
Hi Dem, good to hear you feel better.

What about this scenario - diamond goes to the pendant, setting is perfect for RHR with colored stone of your favorite color?

Date: 6/15/2006 9:49:08 AM

Author: Dee*Jay


Date: 6/15/2006 8:49:43 AM

Author: dbgaap

I bet there are people out there looking at your EC now and thinking, WoW! How much do you want? I''ll give you cash for it!

Too bad we can''t get Demelza together with Professer -- bet Professer''s girlfriend would LOVE that ring!

Professer can enquire thru Bill Pearlman if he is not afraid to buy with no return. And Bill has his Show case in our Gallery he can advertise any jewelry he wants in, including consignment, it''s free.

We are glad to help as much as we can, all we ask for is help from community with keeping no sales, no promo rule on the forums.

Very sorry -- did not mean to make an inappropriate post!
 
Date: 6/15/2006 12:06:36 PM
Author: Dee*Jay


Very sorry -- did not mean to make an inappropriate post!
Don''t worry Dee*Jay, you didn''t.
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I can talk to Bill about making special folder for such listings, what i was talking about is that forum should not become ad space for members who have a ring on consignment with him. We had such experience before unfortunately.
 
No hijack-sies .. but my HEART STOPPED when I saw that cool pendant photoshop, oh Pricescope Photoshop Wizards!!!

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Demelza,

Ok I''m in the minority here, because I wouldn''t trade it in. I''d keep it because it''s beautiful and I don''t like taking a hit on anything. As for the solitaire issue, I wouldn''t add sidestones because your set is GORGEOUS. Too beautiful for words.

Even if you don''t wear it, I think about how lovely it would be to pass it on to your son/daughther as an heirloom peice. I''d have been thrilled to get something like that.

Personally I''m not crazy about the setting. I''m a big antique girl but the setting isn''t working for me, so I have to ask are 100% sure it''s not the setting? I''d probably do something really elaborate and save it as a special occasion ring. Oh yeah, and stop feeling guilty. We''ve all bought something we love but don''t get as much use out of it as we should. This is just on a slightly bigger scale.
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Like Ally, I have also thought of the possibility that you''d end up with two daughters or two granddaughters. It would be hard to leave one that gorgeous solitaire without having another nice ring to leave. I realize that is a loooong time away for you, but it will be important someday if there are girls down the line.
 
Wow, just checking in now after a long day. Thanks for all the great suggestions!!

Pricescope -- Thanks so much for the photoshop magic!! It does look very pretty as a pedant AND the setting looks great with a colored stone in it.

I'm afraid Mara is right, though, that I probably wouldn't wear the pendant much. Just not my kind of thing. I like to be able to SEE my jewelry when I wear it. That's partly why I love rings so much!

I think the consensus is to leave my solitaire alone (and I concur), so it's really about whether I'm willing to take a hit financially and, if so, figure out what to buy with money. Hmmmm...I am home in LA for a few days visiting my family, so perhaps a trip to a few jewelry stores might be in order
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I'll keep you all posted!
 
Jewelry store trips are great - keeps the mind churning!
 
This is a dilemma!! I''m a little with Ally in that this is such a lovely piece and could be an heirloom for a daughter or someone....


BUT....you need to do what makes you feel comfortabl, and this gorgeous piece of bling sitting in a jewelry box isn''t it! So......I''m torn! I agree w/ Mara that you want to think LONG and hard about sidestones. Very different look. But the idea of a big ol'' eternity band is lovely.


OR.........
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When you get a LEGITIMATE tech or doctor who doesn''t toy with you (b/c she KNEW--you know at 16 weeks!!!!!) You could trade it in for an e-band that has something for the baby? Like some pink diamonds/rose gold w/ the white melee for a girl? Or a diamond/saph combo for a boy?
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Just to throw it out there.
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Quick update: I''m back from LA and didn''t get into a single jewelry store! I was so hoping to have one afternoon to myself, but going home is always so busy with family and friends. Darn! Anyway, the more I think about it, the more I''m thinking that I might really want to look into trading in BOTH my round and my emerald cut towards a similar sized round with better color. I''m not sure if this is even possible given that I''m not wanting to spend a lot more money right now and I would be taking a hit financially by trading in with a company from whom I didn''t originally purchase the stones. I know that sounds totally crazy and perhaps you all can talk some sense into me, but here are the things that are bugging me about my round:

1. In certain lighting conditions and from certain angles (never from the top down), I can see a bit of color. And it does bother me. I never noticed any color in my G nor do I notice color in my H color emerald. That leads me to think that perhaps going up to an H in a round of this size might help a bit.

2. After nearly a year of owning this stone, I was able to find the grade setting inclusion with my naked eye when looking at the stone from the side. It''s an AGS graded VS2 and I was very surprised by this, but it''s true. It''s definitely there and it bugs me. I don''t want to pay for a VS1, but I''m wondering if another VS2 might be more eyeclean. Or am I being unreasonable here?? Is it just the reality that in a stone of this size, even a VS2 isn''t totally and completely eyeclean from all angles after a year of intense search??

3. I still sometimes have the niggling feeling that perhaps this stone isn''t cut as superbly as it could be. I had a lot of anxiety about the shallower angles before I bought the stone, but followed what my eyes were telling me. But occasionally I still wonder if maybe I made a mistake. I never had any doubts about the cut, color, or clarity of my 1.5 G, VS2 whose angles would be considered more "cherry" and I sometimes want to kick myself for trading it in for a stone where I do have doubts. My only beef with the 1.5 was the size. Now, I love the size and usually the stone itself, but it''s not a totally mind-clean stone for me in several respects.

So, what do I do? Try to learn to live with the doubts? Try to trade it and my EC in for a diamond with better color and safer angles? I really want to get in with a company with a good trade up policy so that I never feel stuck like I do now. With the baby coming, I feel like this might be my last chance for a while to make any real changes in my diamond situation. I''ve been in contact with Jim at James Allen and he''s been really responsive and helpful so far, but he hasn''t been able to find a buyer for my EC. I''m waiting to hear back from him regarding my above plan. I''m hoping he or someone else can help! Sorry for the long post, but I''m in need of your collective wisdom!

PS Wasn''t able to find out the baby''s gender after all
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. The tech either couldn''t detect it or didn''t make note of it in my chart. We''re hoping we''ll be able to find out in the future, but the waiting is kind of tough. It would be so great to be able to think of the baby as either a he or a she. The suspense is killing us!
 
gosh Dem. that''s a tough call. Your stone is so beautiful and a Pricescope favorite so it''s hard to imagine you trading it. However, it seems like you are "out of love" with it and now you''re picking up on all the things you originally didn''t look for or notice. If you''re feeling that strongly about it, I suggest maybe at least looking to your options and if that type of trade would even be feasible. i think once you know all the facts an numbers you can make a better choice.
 
Hi Dem
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In my opinion for what it is worth - I have had to identify your ring for many drooling posters over time as it sure is a PS fave as Mrssalvo says. Even if the numbers aren''t as ideal as you would wish - your diamond goes to show that sometime the most beautiful diamonds can have numbers that are a tidge outside the " Ideal" and be absolute sock exploders! Numbers or not, your diamond is such a beauty and so magical that I think you need to think very carefully before trading it in and make sure it is the right decision and there is nothing else motivating this. Do you think with another diamond with closer numbers it could really be any more beautiful than the one you have?

I think Mrssalvo gives great advice as usual. Have a look around and see what else is out there to make an informed decision. I think with a larger VS2 after you have had it a while it wouldn''t be unusual to see something from the side, but you need this diamond to be " mindclean" for you!

Bottom line - I know of many posters who would go nuts to get their hands on your beauty, but if it isn''t doing the job of making you happy - regardless - then have a look to see what else is out there!
 
dem,
first of all...i am soooo glad to hear that you are feeling better!
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that is great. i hope the rest of your pregnancy is uneventful and you can enjoy the miracle that it is.

as far as trading both diamonds, i say if you feel that strongly about it, keep your options open and see what is available. if your perfect diamond becomes available and you get a fair deal on your trades, go for it. i wouldn''t ''settle'' at this point. if everything comes together, then it was meant to be. if not, you can see how you feel after things have settled down with the baby. you never know, your priorities may change completely and your current diamond may seem perfect again when you don''t have time to look for the inclusion and other imperfections.

best of luck and keep us posted!
 
Date: 6/22/2006 9:29:22 AM
Author: belle
dem,
everything comes together, then it was meant to be.
Miss Belle too has a great point, I agree completely with that. I am glad you are feeling better too Dem! Keep us posted.
 
You remind me so much of myself! This is why I am looking for VS1 or even VVS2. I need mind clean. I am looking for an H round and wonder if that is high enough color. Off hand I can''t remember the color of your round stone...was it a J? I know I need to get AGS0 cut or it will never be mind clean. I have a strong prospect or two right now, and they meet most of my qualifications except for I wish they were a little bit larger. However, both vendors have trade-up policies, so I could always trade-up later if necessary. Anyway, all this is to say, if it were me, I''d probably take the hit and do what I needed to do to get the best round stone possible. I will be doing this regarding a pair of 1.5 tcw earrings because they are not of the quality I want now and cannot be traded in. Good luck in getting this resolved! I know how you feel!!!
 
Gosh, you guys are the best! Thanks for your feedback.

I honestly think being pregnant is turning me into a bit of a crazy person. I''ve always had these niggling questions about my diamond in the back of my mind, but since being pregnant I find myself even more picky than usual. I think most of it (except for the color, I think) is a mind-clean issue. That is, I doubt I would actually notice the difference between how my stone returns light and how one returns light with slightly more "cherry" numbers. I did compare this stone to my old G, VS2 and it looked just as good to my eyes. I think it bums me out that under the old AGS system my stone is an AGS 0 but might not be under the new system. Part of me wants to have it recerted to see if it would pass muster, but that seems nuts. Anyway, the color is a different story. It''s not something I noticed right away and I think the only way for me really to have known that an I might be too low for me was to own one. Although perhaps I''m imagining the color too??

So, I think I''ll do as you all suggest and check out my options. It can''t hurt and then maybe I can put all this to rest. I suspect Belle is right that once the baby comes, my priorities might change and I won''t even give a second thought to my diamond''s pavilion angle. I''ll keep you all posted!!
 
Just saw this brand new item from WF: http://www.whiteflash.com/diamonds/diamond_Details.aspx?itemcode=AGS-7421702#

Something like that would be so up my alley as long as it was totally eyeclean. I really do just love G colored stones and the price is pretty good. My concern, of course, is that with my eagle eye vision I would be able to pick out the inclusions in a heartbeat. Or after a year of intense scrutiny, hehe. The inclusions are right under the table after all. Anyway, I doubt WF would be interested in a trade since I don''t think they take in stones not purchased through them. I''m going to email them, though, and see what they say.
 
Demelza - It''s true, once the baby comes, you''ll have so many other things keeping you busy that you probably won''t have time to think about your ring. In fact, I know a lot of new mothers who stop wearing their e-rings for a while because they don''t want to accidentally scratch their babies (a friend of mine actually did accidentally scratch her baby girl''s face with one of her prongs).

So, if you have the time now, I don''t think there''s any harm in investigating what your options are. I, too, am a mind-clean person as well, and color sensitive to boot. I still have about a year to wait for my upgrade, but I keep wavering...G VS1 or save about $15K and go for an eye-clean F SI1. I did just purchase 2 eye-clean SI1 stones for a pair of earrings from WF (saw them in person, and without scrutinizing them to death, they looked sparkly and perfect for earrings)...but I think when it comes to the upgrade, I''ll be a heck of a lot pickier, mostly cuz it''ll be bigger and I''ll be staring at the darn thing all day...once the earrings are on my ears, no one is really going to look at them that closely, right?

Anyway, good luck and keep us posted.
 
Dem - just another thought here. That WF diamond is PRIMO by the numbers but as it is a clarity grade lower at an SI1 do you think that might bug you eventually going from a VS to an SI? Just wondering as the clarity is an issue? However maybe the G colour might compensate, or wait for one which has the colour and clarity you want.
 
Armchair psych re: the title & thrust of this thread. "Am I stuck with a ring I don''t love?"

WHERE else are you feeling stuck?
WHAT else do you fear you won''t love?

Don''t underestimate the power of hormones to muddy the emotional & intellectual waters! Honestly, I wouldn''t risk making big $ decisions during such a turbulent time. If you still want to change something later - you''ll have time (even if you fear you won''t). And if it stops bothering you -- you won''t have "lost" money trying to "fix" something that wasn''t really broken.

This. Is. Just. A. Distraction.
 
Date: 6/22/2006 12:52:25 PM
Author: Lorelei
Dem - just another thought here. That WF diamond is PRIMO by the numbers but as it is a clarity grade lower at an SI1 do you think that might bug you eventually going from a VS to an SI? Just wondering as the clarity is an issue? However maybe the G colour might compensate, or wait for one which has the colour and clarity you want.

Yeah, I totally agree that the SI1 might be a problem for me. The problem, of course, is that once you get that G, VS combo, prices skyrocket! I wonder how I''d feel about dropping the size down a bit to say a 2 ct G, VS2. I think at this point, I''d be happier with a slightly smaller stone (blasphemy, I know) with better specs. I''m just really hoping that one of these companies will even be interested in helping me out here. I would be so happy to get in with someone with a great trade up policy.
 
I say go for it. If it bothers you then see what kind of a deal you can get for it and your EC. Good luck and I am sooo happy you are feeling better!!!!
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Date: 6/22/2006 12:56:53 PM
Author: decodelighted
Armchair psych re: the title & thrust of this thread. 'Am I stuck with a ring I don't love?'


WHERE else are you feeling stuck?

WHAT else do you fear you won't love?


Don't underestimate the power of hormones to muddy the emotional & intellectual waters! Honestly, I wouldn't risk making big $ decisions during such a turbulent time. If you still want to change something later - you'll have time (even if you fear you won't). And if it stops bothering you -- you won't have 'lost' money trying to 'fix' something that wasn't really broken.


This. Is. Just. A. Distraction.

Oh, Deco, I suspect there is much truth in what you're saying. Diamonds are and have always been such a distraction for me. It's funny, but when I think back on most of my major diamond purchases, they were typically made during very stressful times in my life -- moving to a different state, a different country, or, in this case, having a baby. Definitely food for thought. It's kind of like what they say about getting one's hair cut while pregnant -- don't make any drastic changes while under the influence of powerful hormones. I think I'll see what kind of feedback I get from vendors and take it from there.
 
Dem let me first say again that your stone is just awesome. It is proof positive that to me and hopefully others as well that a stone doesn''t have to have the so called ''cherry'' numbers to be a star. You truly have to take it on a stone by stone basis - but your stone has always looked fabulous!

If you are anything like me (and I suspect there are some similarities there
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) once you start picking something apart it''s already on it''s way out the door! My last two stones have been very eye clean SI''s and we have seen so many people here with gorgeous SI1-SI2 stones so we know they exist. I have a friend with a VS2 stone with one inclusion - happens to be black - and I was very surprised way back when to learn that it was a VS2. Sometimes the SI stones can have many scattered pinpoints that truly are not visible to the eye. It seems that the PS vendors are very good and very fair about telling folks about their stones - that makes the job a bit easier!

If there has to be a trade off to get the color and possibly clarity that you want, a size decrease is certainly an option. My last trade went from 2.03 to 2.22 and in all honesty probably no one but me could see a difference - particularly when they weren''t side by side. I did - and knew what I was looking for and what I wanted but you could shave some weight off the stone and realistically not see a big difference.

I am a G girl for my ering. If given the chance to have a DEF color stone without having to pay for it, I''m sure I''d snap it up. If I am paying, no chance! I''ll stick with my G stones because I really love the color of G''s. I have earrings that are H/I and they look OK on my ears. One day I hope to trade those up too and would like to have better cut and color stones. Not a real priority - they look fine on the ear - but one day I will pursue that. Your I color stone would probably cause you no trouble either except for the fact that you had a better color stone previously. Face up I''m sure it is gorgeous but I can scrutinize anything from upside down and all around! My husband says I take anything and study it long enough until I find something wrong with it! I hate to admit it but he is partially right - I have learned through the years with many things not to do that. It ruins something that is perfectly fine.

While we can tell you all day that you have a marvelous stone, it''s all for naught if you don''t believe it in your heart. Can you go back to the jeweler that sold you your current stone for a trade? I doubt he''d take two stones in trade but you never know. I would certainly check out all options and see what looks the best. After weighing all the options and all the costs, you may decide that your current ring is a keeper after all. I got stuck so many times along the line with stones that I didn''t love over time because of not having access to a good trade up policy. I hate to think of anyone feeling forced to keep something they no longer love.

Best of luck and let us know how it goes. Would love to hear a step by step analysis of your findings but I know that could get time consuming for you. It could be a real learning experience for alot of us!

Check it out - don''t stress over it - and just keep growing that baby!!!! It must be so nice to finally be feeling better.
 
Date: 6/14/2006 10:29:44 PM
Author: jadeleaves

Date: 6/14/2006 10:21:53 PM
Author: Demelza
Thanks, JL!!! It''s so tough. I''m just now reading your MWM thread. Will chime in on that one in a second.


On a totally different topic: How are you feeling??? I had my 18 week ultrasound today and they wouldn''t tell us the sex of the baby!!! We''re SO upset!! We''re hoping the doctor knows and will tell us in a few days. Just curious how and when you found out you were having a boy? Hope the nausea is ALL gone. Mine is for the most part (knock on wood).

Thanks for asking! I''m feeling good, not much nausea now, but I''ve moved onto the heartburn and reflux (gross!!
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By the way, put your feet up as often as u can, and sleep with your feet propped up on a pillow! This will prevent swelling and it relieved my achy feet heaps!

Maybe the baby wasn''t in the right position for them to tell whether it''s a boy or girl. I found out during my 19th wk scan - button was lying on his back and had his genitals very well exposed, shall we say
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, so there was no mistaking it!
Sorry for the thread-jack
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, but I can''t find JL''s MWM setting thread.
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Help, please.
 
ehh let's not further the thread jack and say we did.
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i'm feeling slow today and i would just get too confused.
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round, emerald, asscher, round, emerald, asscher?!?!

dem you know i LOVE your stone girl, i think it's one of the best looking ones on here. you are mental!! but i love ya.
 
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