Advice re puffy antique cushion?

[acaw2015]

Hi!

I am (still) looking at buying a ca 3-3.5 ct lab cushion (d-g and vs or better) but am constantly over analyzing the ones I find... I would love to get some advice.

I know there are lurkers, but I don't really mind that, there will be more opportunities. But that being said, what do you think about this stone? Is it a fluffy pancake?

3.01 Carat E VS2 Cushion Lab Grown Diamond GIA Certified 6234061486 Excellent Cut - D57584170

3.01 carat, Cushion, E Color, VS2 clarity, GIA Certified Diamond, Excellent Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D57584170

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Would appreciate tips on where to look/what to look for.

 

[musicloveranthony]

Not bad. Check out Alex Park's lab jewelry page. He's on a spree of posting a big lot of antique lab diamonds he just got in. He has the best pricing I've seen

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[Inked]

Not bad. Check out Alex Park's lab jewelry page. He's on a spree of posting a big lot of antique lab diamonds he just got in. He has the best pricing I've seen

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Agreed! I love his stuff.

 

[acaw2015]

Not bad. Check out Alex Park's lab jewelry page. He's on a spree of posting a big lot of antique lab diamonds he just got in. He has the best pricing I've seen

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Not sure if I am looking in the wrong way, but I can't seem to find any? How does one go about buying from them if I would..?
Thank you for your help!

 

[musicloveranthony]

Here's a neat one he posted today - You just DM him and he'll respond with how to purchase

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[molecule]

As a huge admirer of your set, I have to mention that the performance of the elongated antique cushions is dramatically different than the more square shape that you currently own.

 

[Engrgrl1]

As a huge admirer of your set, I have to mention that the performance of the elongated antique cushions is dramatically different than the more square shape that you currently own.

Hi! I am trying to learn --would you mind elaborating a bit on that? I would love to hear your opinion on the elongated versus more square shape. I am going to start off with a RB, but my next (OMG I can't believe I am already talking about #2 and I haven't even purchased #1 yet) will be an antique cushion.

 

[acaw2015]

As a huge admirer of your set, I have to mention that the performance of the elongated antique cushions is dramatically different than the more square shape that you currently own.

Thank you! So nice of you to say. I love my avc and I will definitely keep it and wear it. At this point I am looking for a larger "fun" ring with a (wearable and comfortably sized) larger stone...
I know re the performance, but I somehow don't like bigger ct than I already have in a square cut. Maybe 2 ct would be nice in a square too of course, but I want larger than that to actually appreciate the difference from what I already have... I hope you get what I mean.
I still prefer the antique cut pattern and the cushion shape over other shapes and so I don't really see any other option than elongated... Considering the options I have I don't mind too much a little bit of windowing and/or mush, at least if the overal "feel" is still broad flashes. I hope that makes sense...

 

[acaw2015]

Hi! I am trying to learn --would you mind elaborating a bit on that? I would love to hear your opinion on the elongated versus more square shape. I am going to start off with a RB, but my next (OMG I can't believe I am already talking about #2 and I haven't even purchased #1 yet) will be an antique cushion.

I think what @molecule means is that the elongated shape is (in principle) not possible to cut with ideal light performance and that the antique style is also prone to windowing. My square cut is cut with ideal light performance/return and will outperform an elongated cushion...
Please correct me if I am wrong @molecule

 

[molecule]

Hi! I am trying to learn --would you mind elaborating a bit on that? I would love to hear your opinion on the elongated versus more square shape. I am going to start off with a RB, but my next (OMG I can't believe I am already talking about #2 and I haven't even purchased #1 yet) will be an antique cushion.

A bit of it is as @acaw2015 mentioned. It's been mentioned previously that elongated shapes tend to suffer from poorer performance. With the non branded antique cushions in particular, I am very leery of how large facets can get without a break to provide visual interest. IMO you end up having to move your hand more to get the light to pass along the facet. Some people like the cuts that have 100+ facets because each little movement of your hand ends up providing small amounts of itty bitty flashes.

When I get home tonight I'll see if Jon has any videos posted of a square-ish AVC vs that of an elongated antique cut.

 

[ariel144]

Hi!

I am (still) looking at buying a ca 3-3.5 ct lab cushion (d-g and vs or better) but am constantly over analyzing the ones I find... I would love to get some advice.

I know there are lurkers, but I don't really mind that, there will be more opportunities. But that being said, what do you think about this stone? Is it a fluffy pancake?

3.01 Carat E VS2 Cushion Lab Grown Diamond GIA Certified 6234061486 Excellent Cut - D57584170

3.01 carat, Cushion, E Color, VS2 clarity, GIA Certified Diamond, Excellent Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D57584170

www.adiamor.com

Would appreciate tips on where to look/what to look for.

I like this one better.

I look at the fat center facets and which ones stay lit the most as it turns. These stay white as it turns so less obstruction....at least from this E/W angle. That is how I judged my 3 c. elongated cushion and it has great ASET and performance IRL. Also minimal obstruction all the time in all lighting environments.

Nice price too.

2.80 Carat Cushion Lab Diamond IGI LG587327470 | Ritani

2.8 Carat Cushion Lab Diamond G Cut D Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG587327470

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I didn't check other vendors for a better price.

On these elongated antique cushions many times they rate the cut "good" which is misleading.

Be sure you buy an ASET scope so you can check it's performance. But seeing it in person ...you will know.

Here's my thread with video and ASET. 3 c H VVS2 for comparison https://www.pricescope.com/communit...e-antique-elongated-cushion-3c-h-vvs2.280370/

 

[ariel144]

Hi!

I am (still) looking at buying a ca 3-3.5 ct lab cushion (d-g and vs or better) but am constantly over analyzing the ones I find... I would love to get some advice.

I know there are lurkers, but I don't really mind that, there will be more opportunities. But that being said, what do you think about this stone? Is it a fluffy pancake?

3.01 Carat E VS2 Cushion Lab Grown Diamond GIA Certified 6234061486 Excellent Cut - D57584170

3.01 carat, Cushion, E Color, VS2 clarity, GIA Certified Diamond, Excellent Cut Lab Grown Diamond, D57584170

www.adiamor.com

Would appreciate tips on where to look/what to look for.

Comparing 2 elongated antique cuts with ASET images at the 15 min. mark. Very helpful!

 

[Ibrakeforpossums]

Not an expert but I think the Adiamor 3.01 you posted first stays dark too much in the middle. To my eye, the Alex Parks lab diamonds are better cut and his prices are better.
I have a moissy in the shape you're looking at, and while it's certainly moissy material, the cut is nice enough that the big facets don't go dark very often and it doesn't window either. Keep looking around.

 

[acaw2015]

I like this one better.

Nice price too.

2.80 Carat Cushion Lab Diamond IGI LG587327470 | Ritani

2.8 Carat Cushion Lab Diamond G Cut D Color VS1 Clarity with diamond report number IGI #LG587327470

www.ritani.com

I didn't check other vendors for a better price.

Something is odd with the pricing. It is significantly pricier at adiamor @ 8169 USD!
But I agree with you in what you see.

 

[acaw2015]

Super grateful for all of your advice!

 

[acaw2015]

Not an expert but I think the Adiamor 3.01 you posted first stays dark too much in the middle. To my eye, the Alex Parks lab diamonds are better cut and his prices are better.
I have a moissy in the shape you're looking at, and while it's certainly moissy material, the cut is nice enough that the big facets don't go dark very often and it doesn't window either. Keep looking around.

Thank you!
Yes, I have seen examples from Alex Parks labs that look really nice, but the ones I really like have been quite pricey.
The one posted above is too close to looking like a criss cut in my eyes, I hope that makes sense.
Still looking.

 

[Ibrakeforpossums]

acaw2015 you're absolutely right, way more criss cut than antique. Soldier on.

 

[ariel144]

Not an expert but I think the Adiamor 3.01 you posted first stays dark too much in the middle. To my eye, the Alex Parks lab diamonds are better cut and his prices are better.
I have a moissy in the shape you're looking at, and while it's certainly moissy material, the cut is nice enough that the big facets don't go dark very often and it doesn't window either. Keep looking around.

If you go to my thread and look at the ASET image the "dark" through the middle never shows up dark...it is RED in the ASET. You are mistaken. They flash off and on and they do not show up IRL as dark contrast. It is the nature of these cuts. The faceting on the Alex Parks stone looks like that criss cut elongated cushion which I do not care for and there are a lot of them on Ritani and other sites. Besides the OP is looking for a 3-3.5c stone. Here is my ASET and the dark through the middle is RED not blue which is obstruction. Bottom line, what you see in person IRL is what matters. I love the way my stone performs IRL. Those chunky facets are what is appealing to my eye. And there is virtually NO WHITE which is leakage.