Advice on Diamonds

[dealsaholic000]

Thank you everyone for the feedback so far. Just posted a new video on neocities. Hopefully it works


CURRENT STATUS
#2 1.13 E VS2 7325 7261659047 N 6.72-7.77x4.06 60.2 59 33 40.8 HCA TIC 1.1 {$7300}
video above in Post #10. Clarity plot has more going on, but does not seem to be visible in video. Waiting on IS.

#3 1.16 E VS2 7405 5263080606 Faint 6.77-6.82x4.11 60.5 59 33.5 40.8 HCA TIC 1.4 (~$7500}
https://dealsaholic000.neocities.org/GIA-13349.html Clean clarity plot. Waiting on IS.

GIA Diamond #2

GIA #3

 

[rockysalamander]

Options to consider if lowering color is possible:
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-h-color-vs1-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2430902 {$7990, top of budget, but clean clarity and H color, AGS0}
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-h-color-vs2-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-3257534 {$7780, 1.15, 6.71 mm}

Since you said budget had flexibility...
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3160962

 

[dealsaholic000]

Thanks. I debated pretty hard on color but the gf seems to prefer F and up. Told her that face up you likely can't tell sigh. Hopefully the neocities video works for everyone:

https://dealsaholic000.neocities.org/GIA-13349.html

 

[dealsaholic000]

Here are the ideal scopes for the 2 rocks:

The scopes aren't that great but I asked the guy which one was more brilliant. He recommended the 33.5 crown angle with the faint fluorescence. I think i'm going to go with that one. It'll still be in the AGS ideal cut and for the color E, VS2 seemed like it was going to be near impossible to beat.

Thanks everyone for their feedback and help. I've seriously learned a TON about diamonds. I'll definitely try to pay it forward like the kind folks on this forum have done for me. On a side note, I'll try and write a full review later on but Martin from U.S.A. certed has been a pleasure to deal with, especially if you're in Toronto. Like other reviews, you definitely need to call him because I think he's just got a crazy ton of email.

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[flyingpig]

Since you are about to make the purchase..
Make sure you are getting what you order.

Here is the #3, offered by Bluenile, the same GIA #
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD09005019
Look at the video. It is a different stone from this one https://dealsaholic000.neocities.org/GIA-13349.html

 

[dealsaholic000]

I'm curious what are the differences in the video that I should look for?

 

[dealsaholic000]

I know they're physically videos but you think they're different diamonds right? Where do i see that?

 

[flyingpig]

I know they're physically videos but you think they're different diamonds right? Where do i see that?

I got it.
https://dealsaholic000.neocities.org/GIA-13349.html
click "i" for information. That's the GIA number.
This is not the 59/33.5/40.8. no way.
And Simone's assessment is correct. It is a I.

It looks warmer than E color to me, but it could be just the video.

https://www.gia.edu/report-check?reportno=1182334947
61 table. 41 pavillion. This explains such large table reflection and extra contrast patterns under the table.

You are being presented a wrong diamond.

 

[dealsaholic000]

Wow ok. These are amazing catches. Following up...

 

[dealsaholic000]

Flying pig you've got amazing eyes I can't update the neocited but I updated the updog website with the right video. You guys are honestly amazing

https://dealsaholic0000.updog.co/

 

[flyingpig]

Flying pig you've got amazing eyes I can't update the neocited but I updated the updog website with the right video. You guys are honestly amazing

https://dealsaholic0000.updog.co/

That's better. It is the same video from BN.
If you are still comfortable dealing with this vendor, go ahead. The diamond looks good. Just make sure you are getting GIA 5263080606. Get a loupe to check GIA number on the girdle, or have it appraised.

 

[rockysalamander]

I still can't see the video. Last week, we discovered some spyware on my desktop machine leading to all sorts of fun, like reformatting my hard-drive to kill it. Now, my DH has locked down our computers tighter than a hangman's knot.
OP - Glad you found a diamond in budget you are happy with. Post lots of pictures.

 

[flyingpig]

I still can't see the video. Last week, we discovered some spyware on my desktop machine leading to all sorts of fun, like reformatting my hard-drive to kill it. Now, my DH has locked down our computers tighter than a hangman's knot.
OP - Glad you found a diamond in budget you are happy with. Post lots of pictures.

This is what they provided initially.
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD08996466

This is #3, the correct one
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD09005019

 

[dealsaholic000]

Got it you guys are the best. I've been stressing it on my drive for the long weekend. Will update the neocities pics when I get to the hotel.

Glad the diamond does look good. There's a couple of white inclusions but should be eye clean. Am confirming with the vendor that the ideal scope and analysis was done on the right stone.

Will confirm with the vendor and definitely check the GIA number when the stone comes in.

 

[dealsaholic000]

Ah finally got to a computer and was able to get it up and running on neocities:

https://dealsaholic000.neocities.org/index (1).html

Calling my vendor tomorrow to double check that I'd be getting that diamond. Of the two diamonds, from what I'm hearing and what I've read i'm leaning towards

Diamond 3) over Diamond 2).

https://dealsaholic000.neocities.org/index (1).html

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[dealsaholic000]

Waiting on the idealscope. Will update once I get it.

 

[dealsaholic000]

Some bad news. Vendor said he got someone to look at the stone and there's milkiness in diamond 3. Still thinking of getting diamond 2). HCA score of 1.1 and a lot of light return. open to other thoughts though

 

[dealsaholic000]

Some bad news. Vendor said he got someone to look at the stone and there's milkiness in diamond 3. Still thinking of getting diamond 2). HCA score of 1.1 and a lot of light return. open to other thoughts though

 

[gm89uk]

Some bad news. Vendor said he got someone to look at the stone and there's milkiness in diamond 3. Still thinking of getting diamond 2). HCA score of 1.1 and a lot of light return. open to other thoughts though

Sorry to hear that dealsaholic. I find this somewhat worrying because based on the certificate this is a stone I would have recommended for online purchase without concerns regarding milkiness.

It's a VS2 with a localised cloud as a secondary inclusion. There are additional clouds but clarity is not based on clouds, and at VS2 I would think that is a safe comment. It's fluorescence is faint, and so I'm not sure how one could predict this stone would be milky / or what is the cause of it...

 

[dealsaholic000]

Yah it looked good in the photos. Disappointed, but it's ok. Any thoughts on diamond 2 that would give someone pause?

 

[gm89uk]

Personally I prefer diamond 1, despite the inclusion. Ask if it is eyeclean on viewing from 6 inches and at all angles. I suspect it might not be. Watching the videos I'm not entirely sure of the optical symmetry of diamonds 2 or 3 but difficult to judge from the video. I think they would probably be reasonably good choices.

With wire prices and pricescope discount request you might get it a touch under budget.
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/7094637/Round-Diamond-F-Color-VS2-Clarity - some crown painting but a great choice non the less.

I know options for G have been given and you were reluctant, but if you ever change your mind:
http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/7094638/Round-Diamond-G-Color-VS1-Clarity

 

[rockysalamander]

I'm away from my desktop,.

Sorry to hear that dealsaholic. I find this somewhat worrying because based on the certificate this is a stone I would have recommended for online purchase without concerns regarding milkiness.

It's a VS2 with a localised cloud as a secondary inclusion. There are additional clouds but clarity is not based on clouds, and at VS2 I would think that is a safe comment. It's fluorescence is faint, and so I'm not sure how one could predict this stone would be milky / or what is the cause of it...

I'm away from big screen, but if you look at the diamond that got confused with this one...would the milkiNess make more sence? Maybe confusion continued and gemologist examined wrong one? I too am surprised...

 

[gm89uk]

I'm away from my desktop,.

I'm away from big screen, but if you look at the diamond that got confused with this one...would the milkiNess make more sence? Maybe confusion continued and gemologist examined wrong one? I too am surprised...

It's a good thought but just looking the "I" diamond it was confused with, it's a VVS2, no clouds and faint fluor..

 

[rockysalamander]

It's a good thought but just looking the "I" diamond it was confused with, it's a VVS2, no clouds and faint fluor..

Ah. well . It was a thought. On to other choices...

 

[dealsaholic000]

Yah for diamond 1, they indicated that there's black spots that although are hard to see can be perceived . Seems like there's quite a premium to be paid for a half degree on a crown angle.

 

[gm89uk]

Yah for diamond 1, they indicated that there's black spots that although are hard to see can be perceived . Seems like there's quite a premium to be paid for a half degree on a crown angle.

No the premium is because they are vetted diamonds through a different retailer. Martin is particularly cheap:

Other ones to consider as well:
http://diamonddealfinder.com/enquiry.php?id_field=6895624
https://www.pricescope.com/diamonds/round/1_13-carat-f-color-vs2-clarity-3119880
http://diamonddealfinder.com/enquiry.php?id_field=6910781

 

[dealsaholic000]

Yah I got Martin to check out something like all diamonds matching my preference. And then I went through the HCA score of each one and the angles. Seems like all the ideal angles had some black spots. I'll see if I can do another search. Thanks gm.

 

[rockysalamander]

Ok. While you work with Martin, I thought I'd throw out a few more options. I'm sticking with > 1.0 G and eye clean. Let me know if I got that wrong. Also, when possible, I'm looking for diamonds with imaging already available online to save you some hassle.

http://www.b2cjewels.com/dd/7094638/Round-Diamond-G-Color-VS1-Clarity {1.1 G VS1, $7852 via bank wire; ask for video to be sure}
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-g-color-vs2-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-2519451
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...g-color-vs2-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-2602963
https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...f-color-si1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3257557 {best for a F color}
https://www.bluenile.com/diamond-details/LD09049680 {1.08 G VS2, confirm eyeclean; hold CTRL when click}

 

[dealsaholic000]

Wow thanks that first b2c one looks good. If it was in F for sure winner. I'm going to go back and ask about the color to the SO.

 

[rockysalamander]

Its all about trades, right? How about these if you want color to be F or higher, showing some options that flex budget and clarity. Need IS, but both very nice -- ALL are strong Blue, which is why they are discounted relative to others, so gemologist needs to make sure not milky.

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...f-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3335431 {$8430,, strong blue florescence}

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...e-color-vs1-clarity-excellent-cut-sku-3336748 {$7070, strong blue florescence}}

https://www.jamesallen.com/loose-di...rat-e-color-vs2-clarity-ideal-cut-sku-3187065 {$8260, clarity should be fine under normal viewing