About to buy - gimme your input plz on this 2ct RB!

[c-k]

Thanks. I was opting for the H to be safe. Furthermore, I read that AGSL is more lax with their color grading, so an I may even more tint.


I have attached a magnified pic of the 2ct h/vs2.
What do you guys think about this as compared to the original AGSL?

Vendor states its eye clean from 6-8 inches away from the table view. In addition to this confirmed eye clean status, there are no colored inclusions, clouds have no effect on brilliance, there are no effects due to fluorescence and it is a very shiny stone.


What are all those black specs/dots I see on the stone? They are not seen on the inclusion plot in the other post....

Those are inclusions and or reflections of inclusions...

 

[MissGotRocks]

For grading purposes, inclusions are only viewed and plotted at 10x magnification. The picture you have been provided is probably magnified at 40x hence other inclusions or reflections of inclusions.

 

[partners]

No, AGSL is not softer in grading color, in fact the color will look whiter in an Ideal cut diamond.

See the stone in person, know what your comfort level is always the best way...seeing the stone on a web page is not a good way to see true color, color is graded under controlled lighting at a lab, in real life you are wearing your diamond...it is in a setting, it is exposed to all light conditions, etc.

I am ok with a I color and even J color as long as they are Ideal cuts, and there is good value in searching these colors.

I have seen a J in person - saw some yellow and got turned off
Saw a h - looked nice and white
have never seen an I - not sure what to think

I plan to have this on some sort of pronged 4 or 6 micro pave solitaire cathedral setting. Just worried that some yellowish may be seen on the sides bc no halo.

 

[partners]

For grading purposes, inclusions are only viewed and plotted at 10x magnification. The picture you have been provided is probably magnified at 40x hence other inclusions or reflections of inclusions.

Ah ok.

Any comparisons to the original stone pic MGR?

Which one do you like more?

 

[teobdl]

Unless you are a bird of prey, that diamond is eye clean any way you spin it.

That 2 ct H eye clean VS2 AGS 0 is a very, very sweet deal at just $20K.

Regarding whether you should drop color to go bigger: as you get bigger, body color becomes more noticeable, so sticking with H is smart. Also, increases in mass become less noticeable (e.g. the difference in spread by diameter % between a .8-1.0 ct is way bigger than a 2.0-2.2 ct), so there's less of a reason to go marginally bigger for a drop in color.

 

[partners]

Unless you are a bird of prey, that diamond is eye clean any way you spin it.

That 2 ct H eye clean VS2 AGS 0 is a very, very sweet deal at just $20K.

Regarding whether you should drop color to go bigger: as you get bigger, body color becomes more noticeable, so sticking with H is smart. Also, increases in mass become less noticeable (e.g. the difference in spread by diameter % between a .8-1.0 ct is way bigger than a 2.0-2.2 ct), so there's less of a reason to go marginally bigger for a drop in color.

Hi teobdl - thanks for your input yet again!

Which stone are you referring to?

Only ags 000 stone I posted was an si1
The 2 ct h vs2 is GIA 3x - I only have the inclusion plot and the pic of it

Thanks again!!

 

[teobdl]

Sorry-didn't realize it was GIA.

Still, the 2.0 H VS2 looks like a great deal. pic is beautiful. numbers are perfect. Unless someone chimes in and says something looks alarming in that photo, I'd say go for it.

 

[c-k]

For grading purposes, inclusions are only viewed and plotted at 10x magnification. The picture you have been provided is probably magnified at 40x hence other inclusions or reflections of inclusions.

Ah ok.

Any comparisons to the original stone pic MGR?

Which one do you like more?

Have you looked at this stone? Top of the line, AGSL Ideal cut and Hearts & Arrows ACA
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2962087.htm#

 

[MissGotRocks]

Have you seen alternative #2? Is it eyeclean?

 

[partners]

Sorry-didn't realize it was GIA.

Still, the 2.0 H VS2 looks like a great deal. pic is beautiful. numbers are perfect. Unless someone chimes in and says something looks alarming in that photo, I'd say go for it.

Thanks for the advice.
Keep in mind I have no light performance pics (ASET/idealscope) for this one.
I would have to purchase, then get it appraised.

 

[partners]

For grading purposes, inclusions are only viewed and plotted at 10x magnification. The picture you have been provided is probably magnified at 40x hence other inclusions or reflections of inclusions.

Ah ok.

Any comparisons to the original stone pic MGR?

Which one do you like more?

Have you looked at this stone? Top of the line, AGSL Ideal cut and Hearts & Arrows ACA
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2962087.htm#

I color and $1327 more...

 

[partners]

Have you seen alternative #2? Is it eyeclean?

Not seen alternative 2. According to vendor, it is eyeclean.
Still waiting on actual pic though.

 

[partners]

So far it seems like ALTERNATIVE 1 (2.0 H/VS2/GIA 3x) > AGS000 2.010ct H/Si1



Got another one for comparison!
I am going to throw this puppy in the mix.

AGS 000 2.111 H/VS2
Report: http://www.agslab.com/pdf_sync_reports/104069729002-PLDQR.PDF
HCA = 1.7
Concerns: 62.5% depth (is that too deep for ideal?!) - feather at the edge (can this get worse if a prong is put on top of it?) - clouds in the middle
Pros - a little bigger - VS2 so most likely eye clean - only a few hundred diff - vendor will send me actual pics and possibly an Idealscope.




How does this 2.111 H/VS2 compare to the other two contenders?

 

[c-k]

For grading purposes, inclusions are only viewed and plotted at 10x magnification. The picture you have been provided is probably magnified at 40x hence other inclusions or reflections of inclusions.

Ah ok.

Any comparisons to the original stone pic MGR?

Which one do you like more?

Have you looked at this stone? Top of the line, AGSL Ideal cut and Hearts & Arrows ACA
http://www.whiteflash.com/loose-diamonds/round-cut-loose-diamond-2962087.htm#

I color and $1327 more...

Ya, to get the best cut you pay a little more, I color will be very white in a setting, in the long run you will long forget the extra cost when what you have is a beautiful diamond.

 

[c-k]

Your most recent addition, looks good, Ideal cut, just make sure eye clean to your comfort.

 

[partners]

Your most recent addition, looks good, Ideal cut, just make sure eye clean to your comfort.

In your opinion, does the latest 2.111 H/VS2 trump the ALTERNATIVE 1 (2.0 H/VS2/GIA 3x) and the original AGS000 2.010ct H/Si1??

Would appreciate input from all.
Pics of the 2.111 coming soon!

 

[Candygrl]

Just want to say that I have a 1.8 I color RB and I absolutely love it! It was so worth it to me to drop to an I to get a bigger stone. Not an expert opinion just a personal one

 

[c-k]

Your most recent addition, looks good, Ideal cut, just make sure eye clean to your comfort.

In your opinion, does the latest 2.111 H/VS2 trump the ALTERNATIVE 1 (2.0 H/VS2/GIA 3x) and the original AGS000 2.010ct H/Si1??

Would appreciate input from all.
Pics of the 2.111 coming soon!

I gotta say...you have been looking hard to find a stone that is what you want at the price you want...that is a very GOOD thing.

Just don't sacrifice cut for an extra few dollars, I know the money/cost is important, go down in size if needed. A perfect cut diamond will look bigger and whiter than a standard cut stone. I think you are very wise to seek H & I colors much more value and really an Ideal cut in either will look very white in any setting.

1. 2.02 stone - AGSL Super Ideal top of line Hearts & Arrows, best cut you will find
2. 2.11 stone - AGSL Ideal - my next choice
3. 2.00 stone - GIA Excellent - may be a good choice, less precise grading.
4. 2.01 stone - thought you passed on this one?? confused now?? if not maybe #2 o r#3

 

[partners]

Your most recent addition, looks good, Ideal cut, just make sure eye clean to your comfort.

In your opinion, does the latest 2.111 H/VS2 trump the ALTERNATIVE 1 (2.0 H/VS2/GIA 3x) and the original AGS000 2.010ct H/Si1??

Would appreciate input from all.
Pics of the 2.111 coming soon!

I gotta say...you have been looking hard to find a stone that is what you want at the price you want...that is a very GOOD thing.

Just don't sacrifice cut for an extra few dollars, I know the money/cost is important, go down in size if needed. A perfect cut diamond will look bigger and whiter than a standard cut stone. I think you are very wise to seek H & I colors much more value and really an Ideal cut in either will look very white in any setting.

1. 2.02 stone - AGSL Super Ideal top of line Hearts & Arrows, best cut you will find
2. 2.11 stone - AGSL Ideal - my next choice
3. 2.00 stone - GIA Excellent - may be a good choice, less precise grading.
4. 2.01 stone - thought you passed on this one?? confused now?? if not maybe #2 o r#3

Hi c-k , thanks for your help again. I am looking hard and trying to stay grounded with all the help from on here.

I will most def stick to the best cut.

I appreciate you breakdown of the order, but I am little confused about the rankings.
I have introduced four stones so far in this thread. In order:

first stone was the original AGS000 2.010 carat and an H/Si1 - : [url=http://www.agslab.com/pdf_sy...b.com/pdf_sync_reports/104054978004-PLDQR.PDF[/url]
second stone was the Alternative 1 - GIA 3x/2.00-Ct H/VS2-clarity - info and pics in thread
third stone was the Alternative 2 - GIA 3x/2.04-Carat H/SI1
fourth stone was the AGS 000 2.111 H/VS2. - awaiting pics - http://www.agslab.com/pdf_sync_reports/104069729002-PLDQR.PDF

I am taking the third stone out of the running, since the other three outperform in all profiles. So that leaves three stones to pick from :

the Original AGS000 2.010 carat and an H/Si1
the Alternative 1 - GIA 3x/2.00-Ct H/VS2-clarity
the New AGS 000 2.111 H/VS2

Thoughts on how the above rank in terms of everything?

I am OCD, so I like to make lists

 

[teobdl]

What are the prices for each?

 

[partners]

What are the prices for each?

Prices are more or less the same for all three, about a 800 range between the cheapest and most expensive....

 

[teobdl]

If price is a wash, then I'd get the AGS 000 H 2.111 VS2, as long as it's eye clean, which it probably should be.

Also, either now or in the future after you've ordered your diamond, would you mind posting what vendor you're working with? Seems to be very easy to work with and has great selection for good value.

 

[partners]

Various pics of the New AGS 000 2.111 H/VS2

Would love some comments/critiques/knocks/anything!

 

[partners]

Last pic!

I was looking at the pics again and saw some blackish speckles that are scattered around in various pics.

If you look at the hearts/arrows (pic # 3), they are seen at about 4'o clock.
In pic # 2, they are seen at about 6'o clock and then also in the dead center of the stone.

What are these blackisk spots? Should I be concerned at all?

Overall, how is this diamond?

 

[partners]

Bumping for some input!

 

[partners]

No one has anything to say about the 5 new pics?!

Would be great if someone can throw the dog a bone.

 

[Dancing Fire]

Last pic!

I was looking at the pics again and saw some blackish speckles that are scattered around in various pics.

If you look at the hearts/arrows (pic # 3), they are seen at about 4'o clock.
In pic # 2, they are seen at about 6'o clock and then also in the dead center of the stone.

What are these blackisk spots? Should I be concerned at all?

Overall, how is this diamond?

The blackish spots are dark inclusions of the stone. IMO..there are better VS2 stones on the market.

 

[partners]

Last pic!

I was looking at the pics again and saw some blackish speckles that are scattered around in various pics.

If you look at the hearts/arrows (pic # 3), they are seen at about 4'o clock.
In pic # 2, they are seen at about 6'o clock and then also in the dead center of the stone.

What are these blackisk spots? Should I be concerned at all?

Overall, how is this diamond?

The blackish spots are dark inclusions of the stone. IMO..there are better VS2 stones on the market.

Thanks DF for your reply. Appreciate your input.

Can u expand a little on what you mean?
I realize the black spots are inclusions, but that's a 40x magnification. Diamond is eye clean in all lighting.

Besides the clarity, hows the optical and light performance?

You also mentioned you have seen better vs2 - can you point to one at this price point?

Thanks!

 

[Dancing Fire]

How about these two?


http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/2.153-h-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104067041001#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/3/

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/2.318-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-104063703002#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/3/

 

[partners]

How about these two?


http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/2.153-h-vs2-round-diamond-ags-bl-104067041001#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/3/

http://www.briangavindiamonds.com/diamonds/diamond-details/2.318-i-si1-round-diamond-ags-104063703002#!prettyPhoto[gallery2]/3/

Too expensive.

Can you comment about the posted stone such as how the ASET or idealscope look, how the hearts/arrows pics look, light performance, etc etc?