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hawaiianorangetree

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So i *think* I have decided to reset my engagement ring into a graduated / tapered 5 stone.

I have been emailing back and forth with Denise at BGD but I have started going around in circles and not coming up with any clear decisions so I think it is time I ask for some Help! (please).

My E ring stone is 1.05ct 6.5 x 6.5mm

This new ring would be an engagement and wedding ring combined as a stand alone ring on the left hand.

I really like the yssie/rosetta 3 stone and have been exploring the option of having it converted into a 5 stone. My main concern with this is that since my middle stone is only small in comparison to those beautiful rings, would a 6 prong on the center stone be too much metal and cover up too much stone?

On the other end of the scale, I also like the U prong and trellis settings that BGD have but i am worried that having so much stone exposed is going to lead me to damaging them. I am pretty rough on my rings and because I have a large knuckle compared to the rest of my finger, they don't come off easily. Also, i think those settings lend themselves more to the wedding band look rather than the e ring look and i *think* I would like to have it the other way round? (but i know with my stone sizes it still will look 'bandish'.

Ok now for some inspiration pics...

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and this is my terrible drawing of a 5 stone version of yssie/rosetta 3 stone...

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Proportions I am looking at are

.30/.42/1.05/.42/.30

which is..

4.3/4.8/6.5/4.8/4.3

Any comments, questions, ideas and advice are welcome!
 
that is Yssie's awesome five stone re-set!

HOT-I think that a 5 stone in the yssie three stone modified would be gorgeous. Her first iteration of that ring had a center stone closer to your size. The setting only got better, but you can get an idea from looking at that.
 
Farleysmom|1320974312|3059150 said:
armywife13|1320973627|3059141 said:
This is a little more intricate than the normal trellis setting, but I loooove this one... It makes me want a 5 stone! I thought I would passit along incase you are interested!

http://www.victorcanera.com/jewelry/the-jana-five-stone-trellis-solitaire.html

Can't wait to see what you decide on and see how it turns out!
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This looks like Yssie's new ring. Interesting!
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After Bella posted I searched on here, and it is actually Yssie's new ring! I am sooooo jealous. :love:
 
Please do something like Yssie's 3-stone!! That ring is stunning and I think something like it would be gorgeous with the stone sizes you are using.
 
I'd get Brian himself on the phone and see what his thoughts are. He has a great mind for design. I think your outside stones need to be smaller. 4.3 is too big, IMO. I would want something at 3.8 there. 25 pointers.
 
Gypsy|1320977222|3059192 said:
I'd get Brian himself on the phone and see what his thoughts are. He has a great mind for design. I think your outside stones need to be smaller. 4.3 is too big, IMO. I would want something at 3.8 there. 25 pointers.
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Wow, maybe I'm better at this than I thought! I thought the same thing when I saw the dimensions of the stones - didn't seem to be enough difference between them to me. I thought .25 as well.
 
armywife ~ that is sooooo funny that you pulled up yssies new ring without even knowing it! Just beautiful isn't it?

Bella ~ thanks, I will go and look up yssies old thread to give me a better idea of how it will look.

stargurl ~ thanks! Its always a little intimidating copying other rings where the stones are much much larger. Glad you think it will still look good.

Gypsy and Junebug ~ this thought has been in the back of my mind over the 30 pointers too. I have been in two minds over whether to stick with the 30's or go something smaller, like you have suggested.

There are a couple of reasons for why i was looking at 30pointers...

1. Theyre upgradeable, if i ever decide to go back to a solitaire with my original e stone I could swap out the smaller stones for lower colours and put in a lower coloured center. Anything below this size wont be upgradeable. (i don't think?)

2. I was wondering if having the .30s on the end in a 3 prong would create the illusion of them being smaller, esp if next to a 4 pronged 40 pointer and that having the .25ct on the ends in a 3 prong would make it look too small?

I did up some dummys with some sticky labels..

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and on the finger...

All the cut outs were done using 5mm and 4.5mm or 5mm and 4mm cut outs so they are a little bit larger than what they would be but give the same effect for looking at the graduation.

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Do you think going with 4mm stones would be a good compromise between the 4.3 and 3.8, or would it still look funny with only .08mm difference?
 
25 points is 4.0-4.1 I think it would be better than the thirty pointers. If you can I would increase the seconds to 5.0mm each if you can. I think the way it look on the paper is perfect.
 
Yeah I wanted 5mm stones to begin with but unfortunately BGD doesn't have anything in my colour range between the .42 and .50 mark. There is a G colour, .435 but it's still only 4.9mm and there's only one of them. Everything over the .50ct mark is over my budget.
I agree the 6.5-5-4 combo looks great on paper. Why can't these things be easy? :cheeky:
 
I also vote for the .25's- they've got to be smaller to make the graduated thing more obvious. and the more different in size the stones are the less like an eternity band it will look. its gonna look stunning either way tho!
 
Another vote for the .25 stones on the ends.
 
Ohh HOT I feel your pain, so very close to my own!

I think I'd go w/the .25's, for a bit more graduation from the second set of stones.

You did a good job w/your cut outs! I wish I were able to do that!
 
hawaiianorangetree|1320972931|3059124 said:
and this is my terrible drawing of a 5 stone version of yssie/rosetta 3 stone...
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How funny - another graduated 5stone reset! That's - what, three in the last couple of months? :cheeky:

Yes, the ring in the video from VC is mine - that's the pre-tweaks version though ::)


Obviously I am biased, but I think the 5stone you've drawn with the 6prong centre would be gorgeous! Just one comment on the endprong though, actually something slg pointed out to me in my design thread - the stones look like they'll wrap pretty far around your finger, I think you'll want another prong or bezel or *something* on the ends or it'll be uncomfortable with that loose end-prong digging into the adjacent finger -

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I'd go w/ the 25pointers too - they'll be a little bit less deep than the larger stones and I'm thinking for comfort the shallower the better...
 
I double checked on the 5mm stones and there won't be any for quite some time as the last batch was fairly recent, so I'll have to stay with the 4.8mm.

And to kick me in the pants a bit more the .25 stones work out more expensive than the .30!! Grr.

So I'm looking at .25/.42/1.05/.42/.25...... 4mm/4.8mm/6.5mm/4.8mm/4mm

Since I can't get 5mm stones should I drop down to .20/3.8mm on the ends? I'm worried they will look too small, but I'm worried the graduation between the 4.8/4 won't be enough now!

Chel180 - thanks for your vote! :)) good point about the graduation making it look less like an eternity ring.

Star URL - thanks again. :sun:

Packrat - oh boy it is hard isn't it?? With the cut outs I have been cheating a bit. I have one of those template / rulers with all different mm sizes on them, so it's pretty easy to do. I put them on to sticky labels so when I peel them off and stick them down they down go anywhere. I have a friend who was doing cushion cut outs a few days ago and she prints out a cushion cut size chart and cuts them out, perfect sized cushions every time! :cheeky:

Yssie - the 5 stone is contagious! :cheeky: thanks for your input on the design. I took those side bars out to make it look different, I didn't really think about the comfort factor. I'm going to have a chat with Brian in the next few days and see what he says as well.


I also wanted to incorporate a couple of Pink Argyle Diamond melee into the design to make it a little more 'Western Australian'. I've put them in the middle of the prong on the main stone but I'm not sure if it's quite right. Any better ideas on where they should go?
 
Denise got back to me with smaller stone prices...

.30's. $630
.25's $650
.20's $442

:angryfire: you DeBeers! :cheeky:
 
hawaiianorangetree|1321060311|3059994 said:
Denise got back to me with smaller stone prices...

.30's. $630
.25's $650
.20's $442

:angryfire: you DeBeers! :cheeky:
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I don't understand that at all. Makes no sense! But for that small price difference, I'd do whatever looks best. Oh, and if they can't provide you with the size stones you really need, then you can buy them somewhere else.

I am no help with the ring because I'd make it a 3 stone with the 25 or 30 sides! You had great finger coverage with 3!
 
Ask BGD to line up the stones for you. Brian can take a picture of a one carat center, the two .42's and then take a picture with 25 pointers at the ends and 20 pointers at the ends for you to see. Then you can pick from them. If they have the smaller stones in stock they will be able to get the pics to you with no problem.
 
That's a great idea Gypsy! Thanks, will ask him to do that when I speak to him on Sunday. :))
 
I like smaller sides, even 20 pointers. I like a graduation where the difference from center to inner pair is simiale to the difference from middle pair to outer.
 
I agree w/Dreamer, just based on the pics I've seen from Jonathan w/my stones..I thought for sure I wanted just a *slight* graduation of stones, but then when I saw pics, I realized it didn't really look like a graduated band and I could tell that the difference between the end/second set was larger than the difference between the second set/center. I think once the stones are set maybe it wouldn't be noticeable, and obviously I'm not going to be spending my days w/the ring 2 inches from my face or w/a loupe going over each mm of it..but it makes my mind more at ease if things are even, or as close to even as possible. Just going by the mm's you posted earlier, I think it would look better if the ends were smaller so the step down from center to seconds to ends is more even.
 
I should have some pictures of the lineup to post tomorrow!

Yeah I am starting to agree that the .20s may be the way to go, ESP with the price diff between .25 and .20 but the stubborn part of me want the biggest carat weight I can buy. :devil:

I have decided to go with the Rosetta/Yssie 3 stone into a five stone idea. If I like the pics tomorrow I'll pay for the 2 stones and and the CAD deposit and then we start!

I'm a little closer to sourcing the Pink Argyle melee but it's been a bit tricky and the price differences between places is a bit discouraging. So I'm not sure if I'll include them or not.
 
So here is a line up of the .20 / .40 / 1ct/ .40 / .20

they couldn't do one with the 25's as they had none in stock, but i think i'm liking the 20's anyway.

What do you think?

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hawaiianorangetree|1321665661|3064853 said:
So here is a line up of the .20 / .40 / 1ct/ .40 / .20

they couldn't do one with the 25's as they had none in stock, but i think i'm liking the 20's anyway.

What do you think?
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LIKE.

:love: :sun: :appl:
 
oh wow that's going to be amazing :) I think those proportions look great!
 
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