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4 ct M I1 RB - To Keep or Not to Keep?

OECrystal

OECrystal

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Hello, lovely PSers. I recently purchased a 4 ct M I1 Round Brilliant diamond and I need help deciding whether to keep it. I received the diamond today and I really like it. It is eye clean with the exception of an inclusion on the edge that could easily be covered with a prong/bezel. The M color is primarily visible when viewing the diamond from the side and I think give it a "warm" look, rather than yellow, which I like. It sparkles and has great spread and was a very fair price for what it is. I am partial to OECs and fluorescence which this diamond does not have. Would it be better to keep this diamond or return and look for a better clarity/cut/OEC with fluor?

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It's pretty but I would worry about its resale potential due to its clarity. On some of the sites selling old cuts and preloved diamonds, M color seems to sell too so I'm not so concerned about the color so long as you love it.
 
Are you keeping your AVR as well as this or trading it in?
 
If it's your only or primary ring I'd return and hold out for exactly what you want within your budget. If it's one of many then I say keep it and enjoy it's different flavour!
 
For some reason even though I know its not perfect I love it and want it pls if you return it tell who its from so I can beat a path to their door
 
Thank you all for your replies. :))

arkieb1|1425800739|3843678 said:
Are you keeping your AVR as well as this or trading it in?
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I'm keeping the AVR so this will be my "big" ring and the AVR will be my every day.

Rhea|1425814577|3843725 said:
If it's your only or primary ring I'd return and hold out for exactly what you want within your budget. If it's one of many then I say keep it and enjoy it's different flavour!
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That's a really good point. If I did hold out for an OEC, it would feel like I'm trying to replace my original e-ring, which I'm not and will never get rid of or replace.

Sphene|1425817448|3843742 said:
For some reason even though I know its not perfect I love it and want it pls if you return it tell who its from so I can beat a path to their door
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I will let you know if we end up not keeping it!

diamondseeker2006|1425818323|3843748 said:
Autumngems is selling a terrific 3 ct J SI1 on Loupetroop and I would 1000 times rather have it than an M I1. I think it will be hard to resell if you decide later you want a change.

http://loupetroop.com/listings/rings-natural-diamond-center/3-dot-02-j-si1-0-dot-6-on-hca

Plus, to be very honest, that 1.6 AVR looks pretty big on your finger, and a 3 ct is going to look HUGE. Go for better quality in a slightly smaller stone.
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I think for the price we paid, that if we decided to to resell many years from now, it would not be a problem. I've done a lot of research over the past few months and don't believe there is anything better in the 3+ ct size within this price range. The 3 ct you posted is beautiful and I appreciate the suggestion.
 
It totally depends on what you want it for.
Significance of the stone for you.
Will you be bothered by the inclusion when looking at it?
Will you be bothered by the symmetry, performance when looking at it?
I am not a pro but the ASET is really so so.
Most bang for your bucks I am guessing and that is great.
Resale value should not necessarily deter you from keeping it if you are not worried about sale down the line.
If perfection is your goal, pass. If it were your main ring, pass.
This is going to be your big ring, so do YOU think it is good enough and ticks most of your boxes on your list?
For me, as another diamond, I find it good enough. Is "good enough" OK for you? Is it worth the money?
Let us know what you do.
And I might lurk at it.
Put me on the list for dibs, would love to see it in person and see if it would tick my list.
 
You will probably get varied responses to this OECrystal! My personal opinion is that looks really pretty, and I personally am not bothered by lower clarity as long as the inclusions aren't super obvious. I'm picking up from your post that this diamond is pretty reasonably priced. Something to be said for that. And it is a nice size. The color doesn't seem to bother you. I don't know, if you love how it looks I think you should go for it. The reselling aspect is a good point, but it doesn't sound like that's a big concern to you either.

As for whether you should buy an OEC instead, that is your call and I don't think anyone can really answer that for you. MRBs and old cuts are so different, and It really depends what would make you the happiest to own. Since you already own an AVR, might be fun to have something different.
 
junebug17|1425842060|3843893 said:
You will probably get varied responses to this OECrystal! My personal opinion is that looks really pretty, and I personally am not bothered by lower clarity as long as the inclusions aren't super obvious. I'm picking up from your post that this diamond is pretty reasonably priced. Something to be said for that. And it is a nice size. The color doesn't seem to bother you. I don't know, if you love how it looks I think you should go for it. The reselling aspect is a good point, but it doesn't sound like that's a big concern to you either.

As for whether you should buy an OEC instead, that is your call and I don't think anyone can really answer that for you. MRBs and old cuts are so different, and It really depends what would make you the happiest to own. Since you already own an AVR, might be fun to have something different.
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I feel the same way. Clarity doesn't bother me. If it isn't obvious when I'm wearing it, I usually don't have a problem, myself. If you fall into that category, then I wouldn't worry if it would bother others.
The color seems fine, the cut seems good, especially considering how hard it is to find a stone that size and that color cut well and it looks utterly huge on your hand. And if, as junebug said, its priced well, I know it would be hard for me to pass up, especially if it looked like that on my hands.

Best I can say is really sit on it, as I know I've regretted getting rid of stones too quickly as well as the opposite, so be sure your decision is right for YOU before doing anything.
 
What a beautiful stone! My vote is for keeping it. Color and clarity don't much matter to me, but the stone looks like it performs well and it is a delicious size. However, it is not an OEC and it never will be. Think hard about what you're looking for in a "big stone" and decide whether a modern RB is it. It would add variety to your collection since you already have an antique cut.
 
In the pictures it looks like a bright and pretty diamond. Does it have a GIA report?

Regarding the inclusions, it appears to have two feathers (from ASET and IS images). One is definitely of a size and position that it can be totally covered with a prong. The other is most likely the grade setter and it is a bit too big to hide completely behind a prong, but that probably won't matter to you. The main body of the stone looks to be pretty clean (maybe a few twinning wisps?)

It would be good to have a conversation with the seller regarding any durability issues that feather might present. And I would also get a second opinion from a qualified appraiser not connected with the sale.
 
Add me to the list of people who do not mind lower clarity if you can shove a prong over it or if it's just not that obvious. I look
at it as a beauty mark and luckily it's on the edge which still leaves a whole lot of gorgeous stone to look at.

I think its a lovely stone...
 
I don't think there is a right and a wrong answer there is only the right answer for you. There are plenty of purists here that would never own an I1 stone or an M for that matter or anything less than a perfect cut. And others who would love a huge bluff stone irrespective of clarity and colour. But you are the person who will be wearing it and looking at it. If you like it no one else matters. I asked what else you have because if you are keeping your AVR then you have the best of both worlds a perfectly cut stone and a huge honker as well.... and if you can put this stone next to the AVR and love it just as much then you have probably answered your own question.
 
Thank you all for your replies. You have all made good and valid points and your input is much appreciated. At this point we are leaning toward keeping the diamond. First, we are going to have it inspected to be sure that the feather and other inclusions pose no risk to the integrity of the stone. We will let you know the outcome. :)
 
I vote KEEP! :love:
 
Thank you all, again, for your input and suggestions. I wanted to provide an update. I liked this stone it a lot but I did not love it. I keep trying to like MRBs for my own jewelry (I like it with other people's jewelry I have seen) but I always seem to gravitate toward OECs for myself. I also really like fluorescence. While beautiful and LARGE, this diamond was neither OEC or fluorescent. So we have decided to return the diamond and hold out for a stone that I love. When I arranged to send it back, the vendor told me it's already been sold to someone else. Hopefully it's one of you from PS. If so, please post pictures!
 
I was going to be happy for you either way! However, I have to say, I always need to remember to give this advice...if you are just in love with the stone by all means keep it, and if not, definitely return. I know I am tempted sometimes by great deals, but if I buy something that I don't truly LOVE, I almost always regret buying at some point. So you thought it through and made the absolutely right decision based on what you just said!!! :appl: You'll eventually find THE ONE, and you'll be so happy you didn't settle for something else!

(I will add that Bryan was very helpful in his suggestion to check durability by an independent appraiser, because an I1 feather could definitely be an issue.)
 
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