360 degree view of center diamond

[Athena10X]

Out of pure curiosity, and as a potential future project, I’m looking for suggestions on settings or head styles that will optimize the greatest view of the center diamond. I’m not one for traditional or fad of the day rings, as my current ering is a one-of-a-kind custom, too.

Still, if and when I’m ready to upgrade to another super ideal 1.25+ct, I want the stone to be the centerpiece and I’d love to be able to see every facet when I wear it.

This may sound crazy, but I came across the following that peaked my interest:
https://diamondsinglass.com/shop-all/rings/nina-ring/

I’m wondering if a local glass artisan could do something similar (position a diamond within a glass sphere). I’m thinking the diamond would sit a bit more in the upper hemisphere so that the bottom can be fused to the head and sit a little lower, but still showcase the lower girdle and pavilion facets. The culet would be visible (from below when unworn) via a small hole in the head. My thought is that the mirror-like surface of a parabolic platinum or WG head will help direct light back into the diamond.

I presume another, more practical option would be a thin bezel around the girdle only, that is attached to the shoulders/shank; No prongs and no gallery.

Any other ideas?

 

[ringo865]

Well, being that the hardness of glass is 5.5 (diamond is 10), I would not want anyone to put my diamond into a ball of glass - then set that glass sphere containing said diamond into a ring that I could smash while emptying the washing machine, shattering said globe of glass and setting the diamond free from its cage into the depths of the Maytag. (Or anywhere you knock your hand with some force).

 

[bludiva]

i don't remember who made this (may be an etsy artisan) or how secure it is but this is the closest i've seen to giving that kind of full view of the stone.

 

[Athena10X]

Well, being that the hardness of glass is 5.5 (diamond is 10), I would not want anyone to put my diamond into a ball of glass - then set that glass sphere containing said diamond into a ring that I could smash while emptying the washing machine, shattering said globe of glass and setting the diamond free from its cage into the depths of the Maytag. (Or anywhere you knock your hand with some force).

That was definitely my first thought, too, but it appears that there may be some sort of durable glass that is resistant to breaking (according to the site). Maybe, similar to the glass marbles I used to play with as a kid? Recall dropping them on hard surfaces, but not breaking.

Too bad diamonds aren’t magnetic.

 

[scoutfinch]

i don't remember who made this (may be an etsy artisan) or how secure it is but this is the closest i've seen to giving that kind of full view of the stone.

This is on Love Affair Diamond's site and is her "Meadows" setting.

 

[OoohShiny]

I'm wondering how the different refractive index of the glass will effect the light return from the diamond.

You should look at Tension Settings if you want to maximise the amount of stone you can see.

 

[Athena10X]

Not that I’m interested in the following ring, but found it to be a very unique tension setting

https://www.thegivingtreegallery.co...MItYTonqXP3AIVgvhkCh277AiMEAQYCSABEgK1WvD_BwE

 

[Athena10X]

The following looks promising, although it still obstructs some of the diamond

https://black.briangavindiamonds.co...MItYTonqXP3AIVgvhkCh277AiMEAQYDCABEgKwx_D_BwE

 

[Athena10X]

This is on Love Affair Diamond's site and is her "Meadows" setting.

It is beautiful and almost reminds me of antlers. Very delicate looking, but definitely opens the diamond for better viewing.

 

[sledge]

The following looks promising, although it still obstructs some of the diamond

https://black.briangavindiamonds.co...MItYTonqXP3AIVgvhkCh277AiMEAQYDCABEgKwx_D_BwE

Here you go....



Edited to Add:
If structurally possible you could continue that split shank up the tension part of the setting to expose more of the diamond. Or possibly convert from tension to a dual prong setup like the branches setting, except in a more modern design to match the rest of the ring.

 

[Athena10X]

Here you go....



Edited to Add:
If structurally possible you could continue that split shank up the tension part of the setting to expose more of the diamond. Or possibly convert from tension to a dual prong setup like the branches setting, except in a more modern design to match the rest of the ring.

@sledge, I think I see where you’re going with this and appreciate your creative suggestions. Will look for something similar online and post if find. Great brand name btw

 

[OoohShiny]

Here you go....



Edited to Add:
If structurally possible you could continue that split shank up the tension part of the setting to expose more of the diamond. Or possibly convert from tension to a dual prong setup like the branches setting, except in a more modern design to match the rest of the ring.

Like this one?
https://www.boonerings.com/stone-settings/sidegrooves.htm

That's the setting @kenny has for his Octavia.

 

[sledge]

@sledge, I think I see where you’re going with this and appreciate your creative suggestions. Will look for something similar online and post if find. Great brand name btw

Haha, thanks. You know I worked really hard on it.

Maybe Chicken Scratch Designs (CSD) would be better?

Like this one?
https://www.boonerings.com/stone-settings/sidegrooves.htm

That's the setting @kenny has for his Octavia.

Yes, similar to that except the Boone ring didn't taper like I had in mind. Also, instead of that middle piece sitting lower, I wanted to remove it altogether to expose the skin on the finger and open up the view of the diamond from the sides.

IMO, if you do something like that, you need to make sure you go F+ color on the stone. You don't want to see any tint. If very color sensitive, maybe E+.

Edited to Add:
It just occurred to me that I had assumed @Athena10X is female. Narrowing and tapering the ring along with exposing the skin would make it more feminine IMO. So first off, if you are a guy I'm sorry. And maybe that design wouldn't work if you are wanting to maintain a more masculine design.

 

[Athena10X]

Haha, thanks. You know I worked really hard on it.

Maybe Chicken Scratch Designs (CSD) would be better?




Yes, similar to that except the Boone ring didn't taper like I had in mind. Also, instead of that middle piece sitting lower, I wanted to remove it altogether to expose the skin on the finger and open up the view of the diamond from the sides.

IMO, if you do something like that, you need to make sure you go F+ color on the stone. You don't want to see any tint. If very color sensitive, maybe E+.

Edited to Add:
It just occurred to me that I had assumed @Athena10X is female. Narrowing and tapering the ring along with exposing the skin would make it more feminine IMO. So first off, if you are a guy I'm sorry. And maybe that design wouldn't work if you are wanting to maintain a more masculine design.

You were correct to assume that I’m of the female origin. And thank you for bringing up the color sensitivity aspect. Since I’d only consider super ideals, I think I may be safe sticking with a G, which is the color of my current diamond. Otherwise, I might consider going to H or I with strong blue fluorescence. Still wish the diamond could just hover on top of my finger.

Omg, literally just got another crazy idea, along the lines of using Da Vinci’s gears. What if the diamond sat atop a tiny watch gear that could be manipulated by another spinning gear in the center of a split shank. Basically, by rotating the inner ring, it would make the head and subsequently the diamond, rotate. I’ll have to draw it out. Granted, I’m not an engineer so I’ll try my best. I’ll call it The Da Vinci (@sledge, how do you like my brand name lol?)

 

[Athena10X]

Last time I fashioned my custom ring design out of styrofoam, paper cut outs and clay. This time around I may have to visit the LEGO store. I think they’d have bevel gear clutches.

 

[OoohShiny]

It is possible to make rings with working gears - this is a randomly-found example:
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/618348059/engine-working-piston-ring-mechanics

I have seen another one as well, but I can't find it now.

 

[sledge]

Omg, literally just got another crazy idea, along the lines of using Da Vinci’s gears. What if the diamond sat atop a tiny watch gear that could be manipulated by another spinning gear in the center of a split shank. Basically, by rotating the inner ring, it would make the head and subsequently the diamond, rotate. I’ll have to draw it out. Granted, I’m not an engineer so I’ll try my best. I’ll call it The Da Vinci (@sledge, how do you like my brand name lol?)

LOL, love the ring name. Cool ideal actually. I like gears, but the trick would definitely be mounting the diamond and once mounted, it not going anywhere. If I were a lady wearing that ring I'd be a nervous wreck, lol.

It is possible to make rings with working gears - this is a randomly-found example:
https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/618348059/engine-working-piston-ring-mechanics

I have seen another one as well, but I can't find it now.

I think this is what she had in mind, except that top gear is where she wants the diamond to mount & spin.

Obviously it'd need to be softened up a bit to work for a lady.

 

[ringo865]

That's an illusion setting. Perching a ten pointer into the tippy top gives you that coveted finger coverage while making it much more affordable.

 

[Athena10X]

LOL, love the ring name. Cool ideal actually. I like gears, but the trick would definitely be mounting the diamond and once mounted, it not going anywhere. If I were a lady wearing that ring I'd be a nervous wreck, lol.




I think this is what she had in mind, except that top gear is where she wants the diamond to mount & spin.

Obviously it'd need to be softened up a bit to work for a lady.

I am in awe, though I know I shouldn’t be, that such a ring actually exists. Yep, I wouldn’t want mine to look so mechanical.

 

[sledge]

Totally different direction but have you saw my girls ring? It's not transparent or crazy mechanical gears but it allows pretty good viewing of the stone.

 

[Athena10X]

Totally different direction but have you saw my girls ring? It's not transparent or crazy mechanical gears but it allows pretty good viewing of the stone.

Very lovely ring. Especially love your story...lurked your thread .

Plan to post another thread once I’ve completed my ering diarrama project. Since my SO loves Star Wars, I incorporated his passion into the ering since he was paying for it. Then I added my own vintage/Art Deco flare. He loved nerding out on it with me, though I must have driven him crazy with my million ideas. But he was cool after I dragged him (not really, he was ecstatic) to a bunch of local toy stores to locate Han and Leia hot toys figurines for my diarrama idea.

Essentially the fluorescent diamond is the kyber crystal. Even got a .45 scale replica of Luke’s Blue light saber and 3D printing a ring holder to insert into the saber. And to be honest, I like Star Wars, but he practically lives it to the point that he’s a trained master sword fighter (duels with real katanas)

Next project is wedding bands. He wants a dragon (European style, not Asian) on his, and I’m all over the place with what I want to do, so distracting myself with this thread for now lol.